May 24, 2013, 7:54 pm
Last edit by: coolfish1103
Google doc for China Airlines & Starlux Airlines
- 2017 China Airlines Network
- A document for Tigerair Taiwan (LCC) will soon be made.
Things to note:
Information may not be up-to-date and is only served as advice. It's best for one to call the airline or check the official website. This thread will only cover carriers not having their own forums operated from Taiwan (not China). It's recommended to read some recent discussions in this page or this section of the forum as they might not yet be updated.
Please visit EVA FT forum for information regards to EVA Air.
Miles Buzz
China Airlines (CI) - 中華航空
Subsidiary: Mandarin Airlines (AE) - 華信航空
Fare Family
- China Airlines has followed the steps of EVA Air adopting new fare system where you are charged depending on the booking class you purchase. Have a read: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/othe...y-br-v-ci.html and https://www.china-airlines.com/tw/en...ts/fare-family
Future destinations
- CI plans to operate Seattle from 15JUL24.
Mileage Upgrade no longer applicable to cheap tickets
- From July 2, 2020
You may only upgrade via miles with booking codes Y, B, M, K, Q, T, V for Economy and W, U, A for Premium Economy on all sectors.
Far Eastern Air Transport (FE) - 遠東航空
Ceased operation as of December 13, 2019.
STARLUX Airlines (JX) - 星宇航空
Future destinations
- JX plans to operate Seattle from 17AUG24.
New Lounge at Terminal 2
- First Class Lounge available for First Class passengers only (if not opting for HuanYu Terminal).
Fleet:
13x A321neo
11x A330-900neo (4 currently in service)
10x A350-900 (5 currently in service)
International Airport Gateways
TPE Taipei Taoyuan International Airport - 桃園國際機場
- 2017 China Airlines Network
- A document for Tigerair Taiwan (LCC) will soon be made.
Things to note:
Information may not be up-to-date and is only served as advice. It's best for one to call the airline or check the official website. This thread will only cover carriers not having their own forums operated from Taiwan (not China). It's recommended to read some recent discussions in this page or this section of the forum as they might not yet be updated.
Please visit EVA FT forum for information regards to EVA Air.
Miles Buzz
China Airlines (CI) - 中華航空
Subsidiary: Mandarin Airlines (AE) - 華信航空
Fare Family
- China Airlines has followed the steps of EVA Air adopting new fare system where you are charged depending on the booking class you purchase. Have a read: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/othe...y-br-v-ci.html and https://www.china-airlines.com/tw/en...ts/fare-family
Future destinations
- CI plans to operate Seattle from 15JUL24.
Mileage Upgrade no longer applicable to cheap tickets
- From July 2, 2020
You may only upgrade via miles with booking codes Y, B, M, K, Q, T, V for Economy and W, U, A for Premium Economy on all sectors.
Far Eastern Air Transport (FE) - 遠東航空
Ceased operation as of December 13, 2019.
STARLUX Airlines (JX) - 星宇航空
Future destinations
- JX plans to operate Seattle from 17AUG24.
New Lounge at Terminal 2
- First Class Lounge available for First Class passengers only (if not opting for HuanYu Terminal).
Fleet:
13x A321neo
11x A330-900neo (4 currently in service)
10x A350-900 (5 currently in service)
International Airport Gateways
TPE Taipei Taoyuan International Airport - 桃園國際機場
Information for Airlines based in Taiwan
Nov 6, 2017, 11:25 am
#781
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: SFO
Programs: BR Diamond, Dynasty Flyer Paragon, Marriott Lifetime Plat
Posts: 1,926
May I suggest that you post the pro and opposition side of the news that indicates the side of the FA or Union and CI management? It would give a more clearer picture for those to read.
The FA's should have gone on another strike last week when Tsai Ing Wen was on the trip to Hawaii. Not sure many will support them though.
I am with tris06, they are pushing this too far. If the job requires one to not wear a plastic wrap when serving meals, then you don't wear it. BR, JL, NH and many other airline staff don't wear it, it's not industry standard. One having an allergy does not mean the company must cater to you and make everyone wear plastic wraps, the company has other options.
It's not like CI use to wear plastic wrap when serving meals and then just decided not to do it recently. They never used plastic wrap in the past for serving meals and probably only tried out wearing the plastic wrap for couple weeks for him before reversing the decision. Do note that CI does allow the use of plastic wraps for other duties such as cleaning the toilet.
I am certain this FA can arrange with his companions and be the one who stays in the galley and not do cart services. However, he wanted to make a big deal out of it and instead CI changes his job due to inability to serve duty. Then he is angry cause he no longer gets the flying stipend and everything cause he is now a ground staff.
The FA's should have gone on another strike last week when Tsai Ing Wen was on the trip to Hawaii. Not sure many will support them though.
I am with tris06, they are pushing this too far. If the job requires one to not wear a plastic wrap when serving meals, then you don't wear it. BR, JL, NH and many other airline staff don't wear it, it's not industry standard. One having an allergy does not mean the company must cater to you and make everyone wear plastic wraps, the company has other options.
It's not like CI use to wear plastic wrap when serving meals and then just decided not to do it recently. They never used plastic wrap in the past for serving meals and probably only tried out wearing the plastic wrap for couple weeks for him before reversing the decision. Do note that CI does allow the use of plastic wraps for other duties such as cleaning the toilet.
I am certain this FA can arrange with his companions and be the one who stays in the galley and not do cart services. However, he wanted to make a big deal out of it and instead CI changes his job due to inability to serve duty. Then he is angry cause he no longer gets the flying stipend and everything cause he is now a ground staff.
What is ironic is that this Mr. Pan is now on the CAEU leadership. Surprising....
I agree that the union is pushing this too far. The public is already growing tired of them, especially after an effective smear campaign that BR had on the FAs during the last typhoon.
Nov 6, 2017, 5:18 pm
#783
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: SFO
Programs: BR Diamond, Dynasty Flyer Paragon, Marriott Lifetime Plat
Posts: 1,926
They have supply issues. They don't even have enough engines for their MD-80 fleet. Regarding the cabin, I don't know whether or not they have serious safety issues, though they have been cited multiple times for mx issues.
Nov 6, 2017, 5:45 pm
#784
Join Date: Oct 2012
Programs: Dynasty Frequent Flyer (Elite Plus),Accor Platinum
Posts: 1,866
Way to pop a bubble coolish... I wouldn't be surprised if it went that way. Though it will be surely bigger than before as it couldn't hold the numbers recently.
When will the D4 lounge close?
When will the D4 lounge close?
Nov 6, 2017, 11:43 pm
#785
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: SFO
Programs: BR Diamond, Dynasty Flyer Paragon, Marriott Lifetime Plat
Posts: 1,926
I thought it already closed? Coolfish posted on Oct 26 that it was closing effective immediately.
Nov 7, 2017, 5:56 am
#786
Join Date: Oct 2012
Programs: Dynasty Frequent Flyer (Elite Plus),Accor Platinum
Posts: 1,866
Nov 7, 2017, 9:56 pm
#787
Original Poster
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: CAN, LAX, TPE
Programs: AA, AS, CI, DL, UA
Posts: 2,894
I think it depends on when is the contract between CI T2 D4 lounge is over with China Pacific and we will see then if it closes. Technically this will be hard pressed cause many Paragons and Emeralds are not happy with Kaohsiung Kitchen's offering and services.
Nov 22, 2017, 12:30 am
#788
Join Date: Nov 2017
Posts: 24
I read the revised and new, more detailled information-explanation on the CI website,
but I still have 2 questions, so I really hope someone here can clarify, thank you ...
If I collect 30.000 miles, my status will be immediate changed to "gold" and from then onwards I have 2 years time to do another 40.000 miles to keep that golden status.
So far so good ...
CI says however that milage is not enough, you have to do 6 "qualified weighted-trips" ... and here the confusion sets in
6 qualified weighted-trips within 24 months or in each year (12+12 months), meaning you have to reach "12" ?
And ...
Could someone please explain what the hell a "qualified weighted-trip (QWT)" exactely means ???
6 international one-way flights
6 international return flights
What about Europe to Australia, does 1 boarding pass counts as 'QWT" ?
Thus Europe to NZ via TPE and BNE up to 6 QWT ?
Thank you very much, bye Timo
but I still have 2 questions, so I really hope someone here can clarify, thank you ...
If I collect 30.000 miles, my status will be immediate changed to "gold" and from then onwards I have 2 years time to do another 40.000 miles to keep that golden status.
So far so good ...
CI says however that milage is not enough, you have to do 6 "qualified weighted-trips" ... and here the confusion sets in
6 qualified weighted-trips within 24 months or in each year (12+12 months), meaning you have to reach "12" ?
And ...
Could someone please explain what the hell a "qualified weighted-trip (QWT)" exactely means ???
6 international one-way flights
6 international return flights
What about Europe to Australia, does 1 boarding pass counts as 'QWT" ?
Thus Europe to NZ via TPE and BNE up to 6 QWT ?
Thank you very much, bye Timo
Nov 22, 2017, 5:07 am
#789
Join Date: Oct 2012
Programs: Dynasty Frequent Flyer (Elite Plus),Accor Platinum
Posts: 1,866
I read the revised and new, more detailled information-explanation on the CI website,
but I still have 2 questions, so I really hope someone here can clarify, thank you ...
If I collect 30.000 miles, my status will be immediate changed to "gold" and from then onwards I have 2 years time to do another 40.000 miles to keep that golden status.
So far so good ...
CI says however that milage is not enough, you have to do 6 "qualified weighted-trips" ... and here the confusion sets in
6 qualified weighted-trips within 24 months or in each year (12+12 months), meaning you have to reach "12" ?
And ...
Could someone please explain what the hell a "qualified weighted-trip (QWT)" exactely means ???
6 international one-way flights
6 international return flights
What about Europe to Australia, does 1 boarding pass counts as 'QWT" ?
Thus Europe to NZ via TPE and BNE up to 6 QWT ?
Thank you very much, bye Timo
but I still have 2 questions, so I really hope someone here can clarify, thank you ...
If I collect 30.000 miles, my status will be immediate changed to "gold" and from then onwards I have 2 years time to do another 40.000 miles to keep that golden status.
So far so good ...
CI says however that milage is not enough, you have to do 6 "qualified weighted-trips" ... and here the confusion sets in
6 qualified weighted-trips within 24 months or in each year (12+12 months), meaning you have to reach "12" ?
And ...
Could someone please explain what the hell a "qualified weighted-trip (QWT)" exactely means ???
6 international one-way flights
6 international return flights
What about Europe to Australia, does 1 boarding pass counts as 'QWT" ?
Thus Europe to NZ via TPE and BNE up to 6 QWT ?
Thank you very much, bye Timo
These 6 qualified flights is within 24months. Also they have to be with CI and not another Skyteam Carrier. This starts from the 1st of December 2017.
Also note once you have reached gold status your status mileage resets back to 0 so if you want to upgrade to emerald status you will need to achieve another 50,000 miles (within a 12month period after achieving gold level) to move up.
Nov 22, 2017, 7:48 am
#790
Join Date: Nov 2017
Posts: 24
Thank you.
Gold Status is enough for me as Emerald really dont bring that much advantages (additional 10Kg plus better lounge plus other minor things).
However the question remains, what a qualified weighted trip actually means ...
Why do they even use such a term ?
I know what a flight~segment is. Are those things the same ?
With Gold status I only wanna fly Europe to Sydney once per year (thus 2 times within 24 months).
Milage would be little over 40k in Premium~Economy (miles counts 100% so ok), but I am kind of worried I might only have 4 qualified weighted trips.
Gold Status is enough for me as Emerald really dont bring that much advantages (additional 10Kg plus better lounge plus other minor things).
However the question remains, what a qualified weighted trip actually means ...
Why do they even use such a term ?
I know what a flight~segment is. Are those things the same ?
With Gold status I only wanna fly Europe to Sydney once per year (thus 2 times within 24 months).
Milage would be little over 40k in Premium~Economy (miles counts 100% so ok), but I am kind of worried I might only have 4 qualified weighted trips.
Nov 22, 2017, 8:07 am
#791
Moderator: Hyatt; FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: WAS
Programs: :rolleyes:, DL DM, Mlife Plat, Caesars Diam, Marriott Tit, UA Gold, Hyatt Glob, invol FT beta tester
Posts: 18,882
https://www.china-airlines.com/us/en...member-classes
For example for Gold:
3. Take a total of 20 or more qualified weighted trips in Economy Class / Business Class / First Class on China Airlines, Mandarin Airlines and SkyTeam partner airlines.
Calculation of weighted trips on China Airlines and Mandarin Airlines: Each Premium Economy Class / Economy Class (booking class: W/U/E/Y/B/M/K/V/T/R/Q/H/N) is counted as 1 weighted trip and each Business Class (booking class: J/C/D*) is counted as 1.5 weighted trips.
Calculation of weighted trips on China Airlines and Mandarin Airlines: Each Premium Economy Class / Economy Class (booking class: W/U/E/Y/B/M/K/V/T/R/Q/H/N) is counted as 1 weighted trip and each Business Class (booking class: J/C/D*) is counted as 1.5 weighted trips.
Nov 22, 2017, 9:57 am
#792
Join Date: Nov 2017
Posts: 24
I saw that, but (sorry), I still dont understand.
Does a QWT refer to a single Boarding Pass ?
Does it refer to a CI flight number ?
Does it refer to a complete flight (return-flight) booking ?
Eg
Vienna Taipei
Taipei Sydney
Sydney Taipei
Taipei Vienna
1 / 2 / 4 QWT ???
Frankfurt Taipei
Taipei Brisbane
Brisbane Auckland (same flight Number)
+ Return to Frankfurt
1 / 2 / 3 / 4 / 6 QWT ???
I am sorry to bother the experts here (clearly I am a beginner) ....
Maybe it is language problem as English is not my mother tongue.
But I still find the explanation CI providing here very confusing. Especially they are trying to explain the details on their Homepage.
Does a QWT refer to a single Boarding Pass ?
Does it refer to a CI flight number ?
Does it refer to a complete flight (return-flight) booking ?
Eg
Vienna Taipei
Taipei Sydney
Sydney Taipei
Taipei Vienna
1 / 2 / 4 QWT ???
Frankfurt Taipei
Taipei Brisbane
Brisbane Auckland (same flight Number)
+ Return to Frankfurt
1 / 2 / 3 / 4 / 6 QWT ???
I am sorry to bother the experts here (clearly I am a beginner) ....
Maybe it is language problem as English is not my mother tongue.
But I still find the explanation CI providing here very confusing. Especially they are trying to explain the details on their Homepage.
Nov 22, 2017, 7:58 pm
#793
Join Date: Oct 2012
Programs: Dynasty Frequent Flyer (Elite Plus),Accor Platinum
Posts: 1,866
I saw that, but (sorry), I still dont understand.
Does a QWT refer to a single Boarding Pass ?
Does it refer to a CI flight number ?
Does it refer to a complete flight (return-flight) booking ?
Eg
Vienna Taipei
Taipei Sydney
Sydney Taipei
Taipei Vienna
1 / 2 / 4 QWT ???
Frankfurt Taipei
Taipei Brisbane
Brisbane Auckland (same flight Number)
+ Return to Frankfurt
1 / 2 / 3 / 4 / 6 QWT ???
I am sorry to bother the experts here (clearly I am a beginner) ....
Maybe it is language problem as English is not my mother tongue.
But I still find the explanation CI providing here very confusing. Especially they are trying to explain the details on their Homepage.
Does a QWT refer to a single Boarding Pass ?
Does it refer to a CI flight number ?
Does it refer to a complete flight (return-flight) booking ?
Eg
Vienna Taipei
Taipei Sydney
Sydney Taipei
Taipei Vienna
1 / 2 / 4 QWT ???
Frankfurt Taipei
Taipei Brisbane
Brisbane Auckland (same flight Number)
+ Return to Frankfurt
1 / 2 / 3 / 4 / 6 QWT ???
I am sorry to bother the experts here (clearly I am a beginner) ....
Maybe it is language problem as English is not my mother tongue.
But I still find the explanation CI providing here very confusing. Especially they are trying to explain the details on their Homepage.
If you are flying between Australia and Europe 1 time per year that will count as 4 Qualified flights each time.
The only time 2 flights may only count as 1 qualified flight is if it uses the same flight number.
So if you fly 2 times between Australia and Europe in 24months you will satisfy this.
By the way remember also Emerald also brings with it lounge access for any sky team carrier flights plus 1 additional guest (thats sky team or CI flight).
Yes there is little benefit if you always fly alone but with a partner it is handy.
Nov 23, 2017, 12:02 am
#794
Original Poster
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: CAN, LAX, TPE
Programs: AA, AS, CI, DL, UA
Posts: 2,894
I saw that, but (sorry), I still dont understand.
Does a QWT refer to a single Boarding Pass ?
Does it refer to a CI flight number ?
Does it refer to a complete flight (return-flight) booking ?
Eg
Vienna Taipei
Taipei Sydney
Sydney Taipei
Taipei Vienna
1 / 2 / 4 QWT ???
Frankfurt Taipei
Taipei Brisbane
Brisbane Auckland (same flight Number)
+ Return to Frankfurt
1 / 2 / 3 / 4 / 6 QWT ???
I am sorry to bother the experts here (clearly I am a beginner) ....
Maybe it is language problem as English is not my mother tongue.
But I still find the explanation CI providing here very confusing. Especially they are trying to explain the details on their Homepage.
Does a QWT refer to a single Boarding Pass ?
Does it refer to a CI flight number ?
Does it refer to a complete flight (return-flight) booking ?
Eg
Vienna Taipei
Taipei Sydney
Sydney Taipei
Taipei Vienna
1 / 2 / 4 QWT ???
Frankfurt Taipei
Taipei Brisbane
Brisbane Auckland (same flight Number)
+ Return to Frankfurt
1 / 2 / 3 / 4 / 6 QWT ???
I am sorry to bother the experts here (clearly I am a beginner) ....
Maybe it is language problem as English is not my mother tongue.
But I still find the explanation CI providing here very confusing. Especially they are trying to explain the details on their Homepage.
4 in paid economy, 6 in paid business
FRA-TPE
TPE-BNE-AKL
AKL-BNE-TPE
TPE-FRA
6 in paid economy, 9 in paid business
FRA-TPE
TPE-BNE
BNE-AKL
AKL-BNE
BNE-TPE
TPE-FRA
Nov 30, 2017, 7:28 am
#795
Join Date: Oct 2012
Programs: Dynasty Frequent Flyer (Elite Plus),Accor Platinum
Posts: 1,866
Just out of interest CI has just accepted 2 A350's in November which now brings the total number of A350's delivered at 10. One would expect more announcements about upgrading routes to the A350 soon for 2018 now LGW and SYD is covered. Some small increases in European weekly flights have been announced for 2018 as well.
