May 24, 2013, 7:54 pm
Last edit by: coolfish1103
Google doc for China Airlines & Starlux Airlines
- 2017 China Airlines Network
- A document for Tigerair Taiwan (LCC) will soon be made.
Things to note:
Information may not be up-to-date and is only served as advice. It's best for one to call the airline or check the official website. This thread will only cover carriers not having their own forums operated from Taiwan (not China). It's recommended to read some recent discussions in this page or this section of the forum as they might not yet be updated.
Please visit EVA FT forum for information regards to EVA Air.
Miles Buzz
China Airlines (CI) - 中華航空
Subsidiary: Mandarin Airlines (AE) - 華信航空
Fare Family
- China Airlines has followed the steps of EVA Air adopting new fare system where you are charged depending on the booking class you purchase. Have a read: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/othe...y-br-v-ci.html and https://www.china-airlines.com/tw/en...ts/fare-family
Future destinations
- CI plans to operate Seattle from 15JUL24.
Mileage Upgrade no longer applicable to cheap tickets
- From July 2, 2020
You may only upgrade via miles with booking codes Y, B, M, K, Q, T, V for Economy and W, U, A for Premium Economy on all sectors.
Far Eastern Air Transport (FE) - 遠東航空
Ceased operation as of December 13, 2019.
STARLUX Airlines (JX) - 星宇航空
Future destinations
- JX plans to operate Seattle from 17AUG24.
New Lounge at Terminal 2
- First Class Lounge available for First Class passengers only (if not opting for HuanYu Terminal).
Fleet:
13x A321neo
11x A330-900neo (4 currently in service)
10x A350-900 (5 currently in service)
International Airport Gateways
TPE Taipei Taoyuan International Airport - 桃園國際機場
- 2017 China Airlines Network
- A document for Tigerair Taiwan (LCC) will soon be made.
Things to note:
Information may not be up-to-date and is only served as advice. It's best for one to call the airline or check the official website. This thread will only cover carriers not having their own forums operated from Taiwan (not China). It's recommended to read some recent discussions in this page or this section of the forum as they might not yet be updated.
Please visit EVA FT forum for information regards to EVA Air.
Miles Buzz
China Airlines (CI) - 中華航空
Subsidiary: Mandarin Airlines (AE) - 華信航空
Fare Family
- China Airlines has followed the steps of EVA Air adopting new fare system where you are charged depending on the booking class you purchase. Have a read: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/othe...y-br-v-ci.html and https://www.china-airlines.com/tw/en...ts/fare-family
Future destinations
- CI plans to operate Seattle from 15JUL24.
Mileage Upgrade no longer applicable to cheap tickets
- From July 2, 2020
You may only upgrade via miles with booking codes Y, B, M, K, Q, T, V for Economy and W, U, A for Premium Economy on all sectors.
Far Eastern Air Transport (FE) - 遠東航空
Ceased operation as of December 13, 2019.
STARLUX Airlines (JX) - 星宇航空
Future destinations
- JX plans to operate Seattle from 17AUG24.
New Lounge at Terminal 2
- First Class Lounge available for First Class passengers only (if not opting for HuanYu Terminal).
Fleet:
13x A321neo
11x A330-900neo (4 currently in service)
10x A350-900 (5 currently in service)
International Airport Gateways
TPE Taipei Taoyuan International Airport - 桃園國際機場
Information for Airlines based in Taiwan
Dec 2, 2018, 12:22 pm
#1036
Original Poster
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: CAN, LAX, TPE
Programs: AA, AS, CI, DL, UA
Posts: 2,898
If your flying pattern is Oceania to Europe then you will feel this more drastically.
Dec 2, 2018, 3:41 pm
#1037
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: SFO
Programs: BR Diamond, Dynasty Flyer Paragon, Marriott Lifetime Plat
Posts: 1,926
I highly doubt the surcharge will come down. Both BR and CI have hiked the YQ significantly this year because Formosa PetroChemical demanded new hedging contracts. The two have generally followed each other in YQ adjustments.
Dec 2, 2018, 5:38 pm
#1038
Join Date: Oct 2012
Programs: Dynasty Frequent Flyer (Elite Plus),Accor Platinum
Posts: 1,866
Personally I was planning to use PE all the time from now but if PE is going to cost 100% more than discounted economy then I have to reconsider as its not worth that much.
Last edited by tris06; Dec 2, 2018 at 5:54 pm
Dec 3, 2018, 1:05 pm
#1039
Original Poster
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: CAN, LAX, TPE
Programs: AA, AS, CI, DL, UA
Posts: 2,898
CI's pricing is very lopsided. I remember earlier this year they offered 1800 AUD for Sydney to London and yet for Brisbane to London they offered 2400 AUD in PE. The story is same in Business class where Brisbane never drops below 4600AUD and Sydney went down to 4200 AUD. Shows how high yielding the BNE-TPE route is. Seems BR often offers far lower prices in BNE but it will be interesting if that also increases once the B787 replaces the A330.
Personally I was planning to use PE all the time from now but if PE is going to cost 100% more than discounted economy then I have to reconsider as its not worth that much.
Personally I was planning to use PE all the time from now but if PE is going to cost 100% more than discounted economy then I have to reconsider as its not worth that much.
Dec 4, 2018, 5:46 am
#1040
Join Date: Oct 2012
Programs: Dynasty Frequent Flyer (Elite Plus),Accor Platinum
Posts: 1,866
I Have to admit CI Seems to be gradually reducing their 2nd daily to SYD. From march it will be 10 weekly. BNE-TPE is high yeild for the prices they are asking. But AKL -TPE pricing is more aggresive. CI may want to start a direct flight to AKL eventually.
Dec 28, 2018, 11:25 pm
#1041
Join Date: Oct 2012
Programs: Dynasty Frequent Flyer (Elite Plus),Accor Platinum
Posts: 1,866
It seems CI has settled with pricing now its B777 and A350 fleets have settled.
Cheapest premium economy x2 the price of cheapest economy.
Cheapest Business class 2x the price of cheapest Premium economy.
You think this is reasonable?
I think a few years back premium economy was cheaper than current pricing. I remember you could get PE from some chinese travel agents for under 1000USD (with short haul business class) to USA from Hong Kong most of the year.
Now it is more like 1400USD+
Cheapest premium economy x2 the price of cheapest economy.
Cheapest Business class 2x the price of cheapest Premium economy.
You think this is reasonable?
I think a few years back premium economy was cheaper than current pricing. I remember you could get PE from some chinese travel agents for under 1000USD (with short haul business class) to USA from Hong Kong most of the year.
Now it is more like 1400USD+
Dec 29, 2018, 11:38 am
#1042
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: SFO/SJC/OAK
Posts: 522
It seems CI has settled with pricing now its B777 and A350 fleets have settled.
Cheapest premium economy x2 the price of cheapest economy.
Cheapest Business class 2x the price of cheapest Premium economy.
You think this is reasonable?
I think a few years back premium economy was cheaper than current pricing. I remember you could get PE from some chinese travel agents for under 1000USD (with short haul business class) to USA from Hong Kong most of the year.
Now it is more like 1400USD+
Cheapest premium economy x2 the price of cheapest economy.
Cheapest Business class 2x the price of cheapest Premium economy.
You think this is reasonable?
I think a few years back premium economy was cheaper than current pricing. I remember you could get PE from some chinese travel agents for under 1000USD (with short haul business class) to USA from Hong Kong most of the year.
Now it is more like 1400USD+
Dec 29, 2018, 7:18 pm
#1043
Join Date: Oct 2012
Programs: Dynasty Frequent Flyer (Elite Plus),Accor Platinum
Posts: 1,866
Most of the fares to Aus or Europe that I looked at E was slightly more exspensive than full priced economy. But then SFO is probably cheaper with its B777 60 plus PE seats. I really think CI made a mistake in not having more PE seats. My guess is 40-46 seats is about the right number. I am happy to still pay for PE as I never usually book the Cheapest economy.
Definately the biggest change is the value of upgrading with points. I personally think upgrading between PE and Business is no where as valuable as when before PE came. Also spouse upgrade is useless. Did a check yesterday 55k HKD to have 2 passengers in business class. 65k HKD to set up a spouse upgrade which is far from certain. I sadly missed out when C not Just J ticketing was able to use this perk.
Are you guys continuing with Dnyasty?
Definately the biggest change is the value of upgrading with points. I personally think upgrading between PE and Business is no where as valuable as when before PE came. Also spouse upgrade is useless. Did a check yesterday 55k HKD to have 2 passengers in business class. 65k HKD to set up a spouse upgrade which is far from certain. I sadly missed out when C not Just J ticketing was able to use this perk.
Are you guys continuing with Dnyasty?
Jan 1, 2019, 4:53 am
#1045
Join Date: Oct 2012
Programs: Dynasty Frequent Flyer (Elite Plus),Accor Platinum
Posts: 1,866
The last I remembered you had given up mostly on Elite airline programs. Do you feel as a whole the airline industry has devalued their loyalty programs?
Jan 1, 2019, 5:03 am
#1046
Original Poster
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: CAN, LAX, TPE
Programs: AA, AS, CI, DL, UA
Posts: 2,898
Jan 22, 2019, 11:44 pm
#1047
Join Date: Oct 2012
Programs: Dynasty Frequent Flyer (Elite Plus),Accor Platinum
Posts: 1,866
How do you deal with sleeping better in Business class? I find it so annoying that when I want to sleep with the clothes getting on the plane. Of course we need to dress reasonably smart it is not that comfortable for sleeping as well taiwanese airline cabins are usually a little too warm with the blanket and hence I start sweating.
I considered getting a loose pair of clothes (very casual) to change into as soon as the plane takes off but think it might seem a bit odd thing to do.
Any suggestions?
I considered getting a loose pair of clothes (very casual) to change into as soon as the plane takes off but think it might seem a bit odd thing to do.
Any suggestions?
Jan 23, 2019, 9:54 am
#1048
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: SFO
Programs: BR Diamond, Dynasty Flyer Paragon, Marriott Lifetime Plat
Posts: 1,926
How do you deal with sleeping better in Business class? I find it so annoying that when I want to sleep with the clothes getting on the plane. Of course we need to dress reasonably smart it is not that comfortable for sleeping as well taiwanese airline cabins are usually a little too warm with the blanket and hence I start sweating.
I considered getting a loose pair of clothes (very casual) to change into as soon as the plane takes off but think it might seem a bit odd thing to do.
Any suggestions?
I considered getting a loose pair of clothes (very casual) to change into as soon as the plane takes off but think it might seem a bit odd thing to do.
Any suggestions?
Jan 28, 2019, 12:58 am
#1050
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: SFO
Programs: BR Diamond, Dynasty Flyer Paragon, Marriott Lifetime Plat
Posts: 1,926
China Airlines' Pilots have announced that mgmt. has violated the previous negotiation agreement from August. Because of that, they are holding an emergency council meeting on 2/1 to determine whether or not a strike over Chinese New Year will be held. Management has refused to adjust flight schedules and award bonuses for redeye flights (they want NT3k-4k per redeye flight landing), and have stated the union should think about the companies bottom line. Management has already agreed to a bonus increase that costs NT120million dollar, per diem increase, and double pay for national holidays as well as off-day flying. Hilarious what CI mgmt. has been through with all the unions.
CAL pilots might launch strike - Taipei Times
CAL pilots might launch strike - Taipei Times