Wheels Up through Costco

Old May 22, 17, 2:51 pm
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Wheels Up through Costco

Apologies if this has already been shared.

You can purchase a 1 year membership of Wheels Up through Costco for $17,499.99 and receive a Costco cash card valued at $3,500.

It's an interesting way to purchase a Wheels Up membership!


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Old Jun 3, 17, 12:20 pm
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What are hourly rates on wheels up?
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Old Jun 3, 17, 4:08 pm
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Originally Posted by Westin. View Post
What are hourly rates on wheels up?
$4295 plus FET on King Air 350i and $7495 plus FET on Citation Excel/XLS
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Old Jun 5, 17, 3:24 pm
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I saw this. The renewal, FYI is about $8500 or $9000 after the year is up. My wife and I would love to pretend this is in our budget but it definitely isn't.

Originally Posted by elitetraveler View Post
$4295 plus FET on King Air 350i and $7495 plus FET on Citation Excel/XLS
Great to know; that information is not available on the WheelsUp page.
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Old Jul 11, 17, 3:13 pm
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HOLY ****! So a Florida to New York trip on a Citation Excel (2.5 hours) would cost over 40,000 for a round trip!!!! + the 17 grand if i bought it at costco...

But at least i'd have 3500 to spend on snacks at costco for my flight.

HOW IS THIS COMPANY NOT PROFITABLE YET!!?!?!?
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Old Jul 18, 17, 6:04 am
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Aren't those hourly rates about the same you'd pay through a broker without the membership?
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Old Jul 18, 17, 9:45 am
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Originally Posted by flyertalkrocks View Post
Aren't those hourly rates about the same you'd pay through a broker without the membership?
Yes, but then you don't have access to the deeply discounted empty legs.
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Old Jul 18, 17, 9:49 am
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How is their selection of empty legs? JetSmarter has a very small selection.
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Old Jul 20, 17, 1:57 pm
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Originally Posted by flyertalkrocks View Post
Aren't those hourly rates about the same you'd pay through a broker without the membership?
Those rates are much higher than a typical broker.
Especially for the midsize Citation XLS. Do the math, $7,495 per hour + tax which comes to $8,058 per hour.
More reasonable, but still high is the $4,617 per hour on their King Air.

Here is my trip comparison from my broker vs. wheels up prices.
(based on actual times from flights this summer).

Palm Beach - Teterboro - Palm Beach w/ 1 overnight.
2 hours 47 minutes
2 hours 52 minutes
Wheels up cost on a Citation XLS = $45,527.
Acutal broker cost on a Hawker 800XP = $27,225.

Teterboro - Van Nuys - one way
6 hours 6 minutes
Wheels up cost on a Citation XLS that cant do nonstop = $49,154.
Actual broker cost on a Challenger 604 = $26,700.

Dulles - Marthas Vineyard - Dulles - 2 overnights
1 hour 42 minutes
1 hour 53 minutes
Wheels up cost on a King Air 350 - $16,621.
Actual cost on a broker King Air 200 - $11,401.

If i used wheels up on these three trips, I would have paid
18,302 MORE for my FLORIDA-NEW YORK-FLORIDA
22,454 MORE for my NEW YORK-SAN FRAN
5,220 MORE for my DC-MARTHA VINEYARD-DC

$45,976 more to use wheels up! + $17,500 to join...

so thats a 63,476 on three trips alone.

Have fun spending your $3,500 costco card, i'll keep my sixty grand.
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Old Jul 21, 17, 9:37 am
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Originally Posted by WhyPrivate View Post
Dulles - Marthas Vineyard - Dulles - 2 overnights
1 hour 42 minutes
1 hour 53 minutes
Wheels up cost on a King Air 350 - $16,621.
Actual cost on a broker King Air 200 - $11,401.
11,401 / 3.6 hours = $3K - is that about lowest ?

unfortunate (& odd?) re WU (own/operate right?)
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Old Jul 24, 17, 3:13 pm
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Originally Posted by Kagehitokiri View Post
11,401 / 3.6 hours = $3K - is that about lowest ?

unfortunate (& odd?) re WU (own/operate right?)
Sorry, I don't understand your question?
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Old Aug 7, 17, 2:16 pm
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You are not factoring in Wheels Up initiation fee and annual dues. I don't know anyone else charging that way. I don't understand why anyone would pay those fees.
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Old Aug 9, 17, 12:54 am
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Originally Posted by WhyPrivate View Post
Those rates are much higher than a typical broker.
Especially for the midsize Citation XLS. Do the math, $7,495 per hour + tax which comes to $8,058 per hour.
More reasonable, but still high is the $4,617 per hour on their King Air.

Here is my trip comparison from my broker vs. wheels up prices.
(based on actual times from flights this summer).

Palm Beach - Teterboro - Palm Beach w/ 1 overnight.
2 hours 47 minutes
2 hours 52 minutes
Wheels up cost on a Citation XLS = $45,527.
Acutal broker cost on a Hawker 800XP = $27,225.

Teterboro - Van Nuys - one way
6 hours 6 minutes
Wheels up cost on a Citation XLS that cant do nonstop = $49,154.
Actual broker cost on a Challenger 604 = $26,700.

Dulles - Marthas Vineyard - Dulles - 2 overnights
1 hour 42 minutes
1 hour 53 minutes
Wheels up cost on a King Air 350 - $16,621.
Actual cost on a broker King Air 200 - $11,401.

If i used wheels up on these three trips, I would have paid
18,302 MORE for my FLORIDA-NEW YORK-FLORIDA
22,454 MORE for my NEW YORK-SAN FRAN
5,220 MORE for my DC-MARTHA VINEYARD-DC

$45,976 more to use wheels up! + $17,500 to join...

so thats a 63,476 on three trips alone.

Have fun spending your $3,500 costco card, i'll keep my sixty grand.
Thanks for posting this. I can't say I was seriously considering Wheelsup, but I did notice the membership for sale on Costco and I also didn't know private air brokers (like the one you are using) exist.
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Old Aug 10, 17, 11:50 am
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Originally Posted by Gig103 View Post
Thanks for posting this. I can't say I was seriously considering Wheelsup, but I did notice the membership for sale on Costco and I also didn't know private air brokers (like the one you are using) exist.
Do you fly privately? or just kicking around the idea?
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Old Aug 10, 17, 1:41 pm
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would have been great if this new forum led to more charter discussion

many on FT charter, up to vip widebody. but the biggest threads were re free/cheap/membership empty legs and now shuttles. there is overlap, but mostly different markets. as you noted. which also led to a lot of discussion of marketing JS is doing.
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