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JetSmarter is a membership program that allows members to fly on empty legs of private jets (JetDeals) and seats on scheduled private jet shuttles (JetShuttle).
JetSmarter - discussion and experiences
Aug 2, 2017, 5:51 am
#1666
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: NYC
Programs: QF LTG
Posts: 1,200
Talked to a JS senior representative in Europe, they're gonna probably shut down the JetDeals, he told me that JetDeals weren't their priority anymore as they don't make a penny over them. That's probably the reason why they're slowly reducing the availability and replacing JetDeals with SharedCharters..
Aug 2, 2017, 9:10 am
#1667
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Oakland CA
Programs: DL Gold, AS MVPG, Globalist
Posts: 1,008
I am amazed that most JS reps I speak to seem to think jetdeals aren't a priority. To me they are the main event and everything else is just icing on the cake. They started with only jetdeals so they clearly believe in them I think they are just bitter that most of their ......... members are ruining everything by partying it up on the flights and operators are pulling out!
Aug 2, 2017, 9:46 am
#1668
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 30
Wow I hope not. If they do they're only going to have members left in NYC and LA (and maybe Miami). I certainly wouldn't keep the membership for the three shuttle flights a week from the Bay Area, and I think they'd lose pretty much everyone else in most non-shuttle cities.
Aug 2, 2017, 10:45 am
#1670
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 469
This is what they wanted, this is what they got when they began their instagram hype, hired Jason Binn, and started offering up $3,000 memberships.
Aug 2, 2017, 11:18 am
#1671
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: NYC
Programs: QF LTG
Posts: 1,200
It has a lot more to do with their marketing than the cost. If they kept the cost low but made it clear that you aren't allowed to act like animals. they would have a much more respected product. I'm actually hopeful that this million miler promo floods them with new respectable members and flushes out the party bros
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Aug 2, 2017, 12:42 pm
#1672
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 56
It has a lot more to do with their marketing than the cost. If they kept the cost low but made it clear that you aren't allowed to act like animals. they would have a much more respected product. I'm actually hopeful that this million miler promo floods them with new respectable members and flushes out the party bros
Just have a look to their terms, it's 100% clear that they're cancelling your membership if you don't behave well onboard.
This is not why they're reducing JetDeals, it's a financial issue. It appears to be very expensive for them and they're loosing money over it. It's quite simple actually..
Talked to a previous JetDeal operator, they told me that JetSmarter are asking them to bargain the flights + special conditions which they can't agree (exclusivity of their empty legs flights + non publication of the empties to others websites,...!).
I just had a look through their website, there is no more information about the JetDeals. Quite strange.
Aug 2, 2017, 1:03 pm
#1673
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 469
Just have a look to their terms, it's 100% clear that they're cancelling your membership if you don't behave well onboard.
This is not why they're reducing JetDeals, it's a financial issue. It appears to be very expensive for them and they're loosing money over it. It's quite simple actually..
Talked to a previous JetDeal operator, they told me that JetSmarter are asking them to bargain the flights + special conditions which they can't agree (exclusivity of their empty legs flights + non publication of the empties to others websites,...!).
I just had a look through their website, there is no more information about the JetDeals. Quite strange.
This is not why they're reducing JetDeals, it's a financial issue. It appears to be very expensive for them and they're loosing money over it. It's quite simple actually..
Talked to a previous JetDeal operator, they told me that JetSmarter are asking them to bargain the flights + special conditions which they can't agree (exclusivity of their empty legs flights + non publication of the empties to others websites,...!).
I just had a look through their website, there is no more information about the JetDeals. Quite strange.
Aug 2, 2017, 1:17 pm
#1674
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: NYC
Programs: QF LTG
Posts: 1,200
I don't understand why jetsmarter demands total online exclusivity of empty legs. Surely they would have more success if they requested exclusivity on jetdeals within 12 hours of departure.
If they lose jetdeals I dare say they will lose a ton of members too!
they would need a much more extensive shuttle selection to keep me interested otherwise. What happened to the seasonal shuttles they used to offer to places like the hamptons, Montreal, and the Kentucky derby?
If they lose jetdeals I dare say they will lose a ton of members too!
they would need a much more extensive shuttle selection to keep me interested otherwise. What happened to the seasonal shuttles they used to offer to places like the hamptons, Montreal, and the Kentucky derby?
Aug 2, 2017, 1:54 pm
#1675
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Oakland CA
Programs: DL Gold, AS MVPG, Globalist
Posts: 1,008
I've not heard anything to corroborate this rumor yet, so I'm not going to stress about it too much for now. I do think JS should be careful if they're thinking about it though.... while they need to kick out the bros, no more empty legs is going to mean losing members all over the place.
Aug 2, 2017, 2:07 pm
#1676
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 56
My understanding is that it's a five year contract, but that was from whenever they first started, not from the increased/improved deal in Sept 2016. It's possible that was one year and replaced the five year agreement, but I doubt it. I'm sure the contract does have outs though... JetEdge obviously did with their seven year contract that lasted a year.
I've not heard anything to corroborate this rumor yet, so I'm not going to stress about it too much for now. I do think JS should be careful if they're thinking about it though.... while they need to kick out the bros, no more empty legs is going to mean losing members all over the place.
I've not heard anything to corroborate this rumor yet, so I'm not going to stress about it too much for now. I do think JS should be careful if they're thinking about it though.... while they need to kick out the bros, no more empty legs is going to mean losing members all over the place.
Globeair & Jetsmarter announced a 5 years contract for JetDeals and we all know that this deal has been terminated. It's probably the same for JetEdge.. Something is definitely going on.
I definitely hope that they're thinking about this. Everyone should be reminded that we had 0 JetDeals in Europe for more than a month in April/May.. I almost thought about asking Amex for a refund at that time..
Aug 2, 2017, 2:10 pm
#1677
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 469
My understanding is that it's a five year contract, but that was from whenever they first started, not from the increased/improved deal in Sept 2016. It's possible that was one year and replaced the five year agreement, but I doubt it. I'm sure the contract does have outs though... JetEdge obviously did with their seven year contract that lasted a year.
I've not heard anything to corroborate this rumor yet, so I'm not going to stress about it too much for now. I do think JS should be careful if they're thinking about it though.... while they need to kick out the bros, no more empty legs is going to mean losing members all over the place.
I've not heard anything to corroborate this rumor yet, so I'm not going to stress about it too much for now. I do think JS should be careful if they're thinking about it though.... while they need to kick out the bros, no more empty legs is going to mean losing members all over the place.
Aug 2, 2017, 2:47 pm
#1678
Suspended
Join Date: Apr 2017
Programs: AMEX Centurion, Inspirato, jetmembership.com, Mandarin Oriental, Hertz Gold Plus
Posts: 91
Aug 4, 2017, 9:35 am
#1680
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 2
empty legs jetsmarter wheelsup etc
Jetsmarter smart member here. Empty legs are the only true value to me. I'll leave my membership in that case.
But anyway, where else CAN we find empty legs?
1 jetsmarter
2 wheelsup "hot deals". does anyone have wheels up? how is the availability?
3 where are delta private jets empty legs now? nowhere?
4 anywhere else we can look?
-a
But anyway, where else CAN we find empty legs?
1 jetsmarter
2 wheelsup "hot deals". does anyone have wheels up? how is the availability?
3 where are delta private jets empty legs now? nowhere?
4 anywhere else we can look?
-a