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Kagehitokiri Jun 9, 2015 10:38 am

scheduled flights at non-commercial terminals ?
 
is there existing (master) thread ?
i was not sure how to title thread

curious about scheduled flights using either >
general aviation airport / FBO / not commercial airport
general aviation terminal / FBO at commercial airport

Commuter Air Carrier (list) >
cms.dot.gov/policy/aviation-policy/commuter-air-carriers-list
cms.dot.gov/sites/dot.gov/files/docs/mission/office-policy/aviation-policy/3186/commuter-list-52017.pdf
old >
transportation.gov/sites/dot.gov/files/docs/Commuter%20Air%20Carrier%20%20List.pdf

some (single-prop) examples >

tradewindaviation.com/premiumScheduled.php
uses general aviation hangar at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westchester_County_Airportand http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teterboro_Airport

capeair.com
uses general aviation hangar at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westchester_County_Airportand https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adiron...gional_Airport

kenmoreair.com
uses http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_Field

(examples that are not Commuter Air Carrier(s) >)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Airways_Express

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memphis_International_Airport

+ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essential_Air_Service

+ Scheduled Charter & Public Charter ? >
jetsuitex.com has some non commercial airports IIRC

chgoeditor Jun 9, 2015 12:35 pm

I haven't seen a master thread, but just finished some work for a client that involved reading up on specific details about the world's ~200 busiest passenger airports. I saw a handful of instances where airlines with commercial passenger service operated out of non-commercial terminals. Looks at the DOT list of commuter airlines, I saw some familiar names on there.

Teterboro Airport was too small for me to look at, but the MEM example is one I would have seen. I feel as if a few of the airports that had water runways might have fallen into this category, but looking at the cities that, off the top of my head, have seaplane terminals (Seattle, Victoria) I didn't spot any others. Lakeshore Express has stopped operating but was flying from the general aviation terminal at MDW. Lakeshore acted like a commercial carrier, but they may have technically been a charter airline.

Kagehitokiri Jun 9, 2015 12:43 pm

yeah, not sure how various FAA FAR Parts work >
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal...on_Regulations
Part 121 – Domestic, Flag, and Supplemental Operations
Part 125 – Airplanes Having a Seating Capacity of 20 or More Passengers
Part 135 – Commuter and On Demand Operations


Originally Posted by chgoeditor (Post 24943697)
I feel as if a few of the airports that had water runways might have fallen into this category, but looking at the cities that, off the top of my head, have seaplane terminals (Seattle, Victoria)

definitely in SEA/YVR areas - kenmore and others

seem to recall some flights for either nantucket or martha's vineyard dont have TSA at commercial airport terminal when they flying to smaller airports in northeast

wh6cto Jun 9, 2015 1:37 pm

UA154/155 "Island Hopper"
 
UA154/155 "Island Hopper" is a scheduled commercial service with a stop at KWA (Bucholz AAF Airport, Kwajalein Atoll). Definitely not a commercial airport.

Kagehitokiri Jun 9, 2015 1:38 pm


Originally Posted by wh6cto (Post 24944058)
UA154/155 "Island Hopper" is a scheduled commercial service with a stop at KWA (Bucholz AAF Airport, Kwajalein Atoll). Definitely not a commercial airport.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bucholz_Army_Airfield

available to civilians through Air Marshall Islands and United Airlines...Since the entire Kwajalein Island is a military base, non-military passengers on commercial flights are transported to and from the neighboring island of Ebeye, the civilian population center of Kwajalein Atoll.

rankourabu Jun 9, 2015 2:47 pm

Flew several scheduled flights with these guys, and they used to operate out of the executive terminal at FLL

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_Air_Taxi

Kagehitokiri Jun 10, 2015 9:26 am

so air taxis are sometimes really cheap, but its whole plane to yourself right?

Palal Jun 11, 2015 3:38 am

http://www.kona-shuttle.com/index.cf...form&Username=

Commercial airports but non-commercial terminals.

stut Jun 11, 2015 3:50 am

What about scheduled seaplane services? Do waterdromes count as airports?

Kagehitokiri Jun 11, 2015 10:13 am


Originally Posted by Palal (Post 24952957)
http://www.kona-shuttle.com/index.cf...form&Username=

Commercial airports but non-commercial terminals.

charter for hualalai/etc residence owners right?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kona_Shuttle


Originally Posted by stut (Post 24952983)
What about scheduled seaplane services? Do waterdromes count as airports?

FBO right?
"general aviation airport / FBO / not commercial airport"

stut Jun 12, 2015 3:36 am


Originally Posted by Kagehitokiri (Post 24954501)
FBO right?
"general aviation terminal / FBO at commercial airport"

Well, I was thinking of places like Sri Lanka, where there are flights from Bandaranaike and Ratmalana to various lakes throughout the island, where the seaplanes land, and dock at given 'waterdromes'. And there are water-to-water flights as well. Not sure how these fit in...

Kagehitokiri Jun 12, 2015 12:06 pm

how do they handle fuel?

goal is scheduled and not commercial terminals
some use general aviation terminal at commercial airport

Kagehitokiri Jul 22, 2016 11:33 am

at some point ill reorganize my posts and the wiki

but for now >

flytradewind.com/tradewind-shuttle/northeast/
"Shuttle flights depart from private charter FBO terminals"

flytradewind.com/tradewind-shuttle/caribbean/
"available at San Juan is our “VIP meet and greet” service"

capeair.com/flying_with_us/northeast_airports.html
"Westchester County Airport. Cape Air is located in Hangar A"
capeair also serves airports where they are the ONLY non-charter

doss1 Sep 2, 2017 5:49 pm

www.airchoiceone.com
-mainly flies around midwest, but does have non-stop service to chicago/ORD and MSP for cheap.

diburning Sep 3, 2017 4:33 pm

Rectrix Aviation (operating as Rectrix Shuttle) operates out of ORH, HYA, and ACK. All are commercial airports, and they operate out of the commercial terminal, but they escort you to and from the tarmac through a side door (so no TSA, and you never enter the secure area of the terminal)

We'll see if this changes when they start the ORH-BWI service.


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