Hoarding
 

Currently at the very top of CC:

H:4 Nights @ IC Vienna (Junior Suite) W: 2011 EVIP
boar started Today

H: 8 Nights @ IC Vienna (Junior Suite) W: 120k Miles
globaltrotter started Yesterday

Sorry but this is not nice. Perhaps we all should just book as many pointbreakers as possible and head to CC. :rolleyes:

Agreed, it's not in the spirit of FT is it really...(and you wonder why CC was suspended just a short time ago)...

Obviously I dont agree.

I certainly didn't book the hotel to trade the nights on CC
but as I am not going to use the reservation why not offer
them through CC.

Seems rather pointless to cancel the reservation given that
it may be of value to somebody.

Then offer it for 5K PC/nt - the amount you put in.

You could add to your trade "W:" 20k PC ~ then I don't think many would have an issue with that as you're back where you started, and there's no motivation to hoard as there's always a risk you won't be able to shift the nights.

The first one is somewhat reasonable but the second one :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:.

Also there is no way of guaranteeing that the upgrade that might be currently showing will be there at the end.

Agreed to a big :td:. Offering them for what you "paid" is one thing. Trying to gouge members is another.

And I do agree the first is _more_ reasonable, but would anyone really consider a 2011 EVIP to be comparable to 20k PC points?

The hotel in question is sold out in early October.
The rooms were only offered at 5k a night for a short period.
Surely there should be some premium involved?

I have traded several Marriott certificates where the vendor was
obviously making a profit out of me. I didn't mind as I was getting a
far better rate than I would normally have paid.

The same principle applies here. 4 nights at a sold out hotel may be
of value to somebody. I value EVIP's between $300-500 - I dont regard 4 nights with a face value of $800+ being an unfair exchange.

+1

The question of value and fairness will be answered if / when someone replies to either of the posts. If no-one can see the value the trade will pass the deadline and the OP will lose out. I guess there's nothing to stop the interested party to offer something else in return i.e. relevant number of points to make good the original booking.

I guess some people will have many miles to burn and fancy a jaunt to Vienna, whether they see this post is another thing...

Divorce this from the fact that I have been the beneficiary of a lot of sterling guidance from some members of FT and it's all been in kind. Likewise I've given some people the benefit of my experience (and lounge access) and wouldn't dream of taking anything in return.

Bad form if done for personal gain but you always have the option to ignore the offending posts (a bit of self-censorship if you will).

I moved the thread to the TravelBuzz forum, because it is not a special topic for the IC Forum.

szg
Co-Moderator ICHG forum

Given that the Coupon Connection forum has recently had the special attention of our founder, I'll move this to our ORP forum, with apologies if it's better discussed elsewhere. Ocn Vw 1K, Moderator, TravelBuzz.

Ah, my special attention is of attention! Thanks for the honor.

Yes, it had some special attention from me and I think at least a few were very surprised at the high number of concerned members regarding the over commercial attempts in the forum .. all who had supported that brief time out to get the attention the forum so well deserves -- when respected, it can be a huge and very beneficial resource for our members.

I'm not sure there is any need here for my comment. This somewhat showcases my decision to allow comment from other member in the body and process of the trades. Granted, there were some who thought I should disallow anything other than comments directed toward the exchange. But, while I respect that view, and frankly did hold it for some of the time of my examination, I did decide to continue to honor the age old premise that input from our members is exactly what can make most of the information valuable to our members. If an exchange or gift is not up to a value that can benefit the member, especially from someone who might be relatively new to FlyerTalk, then respectful input from other members can provide something to consider, just as it does in analyzing a bonus offer from any of the many programs featured on FlyerTalk. What I don't like is any uncivil sniping and I hope that any active member of FlyerTalk knows that. Anyway, I found the exchange of the comments above to be educational for me and admire the reasoning that was given to the value of this post by boar and hope that any ensuing comments are done with the respect that can still be part of any disagreeing comment.

The things we learn on FlyerTalk. I love us all!

After re-considering the two CC threads, I can't blame boar for his valuation. There is an inconvenience factor where if it were me I would be better off cancelling than having someone owe me some points/miles/etc. It certainly is at least in the same ballpark as what was spent for the nights.

The other offer to me is excessive, and earned a spot on my do not trade list for what I feel is profiteering off FTers. However, I agree with Randy that it really isn't/shouldn't be an issue of if it is allowed or not. The OP has free nights in exchange for a flight. At the surface, it is no different than any other trade in CC. I just hope noone rewards this behaviour by trading with the OP, good deal or not.

Boar: Please understand that we (at least I) are not saying you booked with the intention of trading, but many of us fear such a situation arising where we cannot get legit PointBreaks because of other people making speculative bookings knowing they can make a profit off of them, or cancel them free. I have only managed to get one PB so far (IC Buenos Aires) and look forward to more in the future as long as they aren't cancelled due to abuse.

[QUOTE=azepine00;12419353]Currently at the very top of CC:

H:4 Nights @ IC Vienna (Junior Suite) W: 2011 EVIP
boar started Today

H: 8 Nights @ IC Vienna (Junior Suite) W: 120k Miles
globaltrotter started Yesterday

As I am reading through this thread, I tried the links but they are not working. Have they been deleted? Thank you.