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MapleLeaf Aug 27, 2003 1:38 pm

New Flood Control Time
 
I noticed that the flood control time is now 150 seconds, versus 60 seconds - at least for OMNI. While I was responding to 2 different topics, and got times out, it is a good improvement. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/thumbsup.gif

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ScottC Aug 27, 2003 1:59 pm

I find it a little on the long side but understand if it's been deemed necessary for the good of the board. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/thumbsup.gif http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/thumbsup.gif

LastClass Aug 27, 2003 2:12 pm

Now I'm going to test to see whether this has been extended to other boards.

LastClass Aug 27, 2003 2:13 pm

Nope, only 60 seconds here.

cactuspete Aug 27, 2003 2:18 pm

As noted elsewhere, I disagree. Too long. I prefer the aability to pop in to OMNI for a minute or two and comment on several topicswithout having to sit around and wait for flood control to run its course.

flamboyant 1 Aug 27, 2003 2:26 pm

I agree with cactuspete and already contacted Randy about the new 150 second limit in the FT Travel section (only there).

My proposal was: 150s is fine in all forums except OMNI where I would stay with the 60s because it does not take long to respond to the OMNI-games/-association threads. No real thinking necessary there.

But they are having technical difficulties at headquarters http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif.

CameraGuy Aug 27, 2003 5:52 pm

150 Seconds is too SHORT.

10 MINUTES is more like it.

The biggest problem with OMNI is that it has been used as a "playground" for users who were obsessed with padding their post count.

Increasing flood control takes care of that.

robb Aug 27, 2003 6:24 pm

I personally have never really expected that people were just posting in OMNI to increase their post counts, but it seems to be a commonly held belief. I've actually never understood why anyone caqres about post counts, but probably some with high post counts and obviously those making the accusations, do.

Therefore, I'd like to offer atht I have seen other UBB forums who made their boards work so that posts to their "OMNI" don't count towards the user's post count. Not sure how this would work technically, but I wonder if it's a possibility for us here.

cactuspete Aug 27, 2003 6:37 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by robb:
I personally have never really expected that people were just posting in OMNI to increase their post counts, but it seems to be a commonly held belief. </font>
Well, a few have admitted as much.

Flood control won't stop the playground mentality, and just penalizes legitimate users.

Here's an idea. The moderators seem to be (and should be) frequent participants on OMNI. They generally have a feel for who is trying to cause trouble (whether or not it is technically within the T&C). Maybe they could take a more active role. Then, for example, when one of the anti-doc cliques starts bumping threads or posting "sadly, no"'s with smilies, they can politely suggest that the poster knock it off or otherwise have their OMNI hall pass revoked. Not a perfect system, but an improvement nonetheless.

FewMiles Aug 27, 2003 7:07 pm

So now being annoying is not allowed? It was previously not a violation of the FlyerTalk TOS, nor is it now, as far as I know.

FewMiles..

CameraGuy Aug 27, 2003 7:22 pm

Pete,

What happens when one of the Pro-doc cliques starts bumping threads?

Wholesale bumping of threads is ANNOYING. It does not matter who is at fault.

Wholesale bumping of threads is one of the abuses that indicates Flood Control is too short.

ozstamps Aug 27, 2003 7:57 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by CameraGuy:

150 Seconds is too SHORT.

10 MINUTES is more like it.

The biggest problem with OMNI is that it has been used as a "playground" for users who were obsessed with padding their post count.

Increasing flood control takes care of that.</font>
This is the second post of Camera Guy I have agreed with 100% in the past 2 days. It put it down to the global warming myself. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif


dhammer53 Aug 27, 2003 11:43 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ozstamps:
This is the second post of Camera Guy I have agreed with 100% in the past 2 days. It put it down to the global warming myself. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

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I agree with this statement. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/rolleyes.gif http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

Think about it.

Maybe infrequent Omni posters can stay at 150; and obsessive Omni posters can go to 5 minutes.


UALOneKPlus Aug 28, 2003 1:23 am

I agree. I could care less about my post count. In fact, if it got zeroed out every few months, wouldn't bother me one bit.


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by robb:
I personally have never really expected that people were just posting in OMNI to increase their post counts, but it seems to be a commonly held belief. I've actually never understood why anyone caqres about post counts, but probably some with high post counts and obviously those making the accusations, do.

Therefore, I'd like to offer atht I have seen other UBB forums who made their boards work so that posts to their "OMNI" don't count towards the user's post count. Not sure how this would work technically, but I wonder if it's a possibility for us here.
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LondonElite Aug 28, 2003 9:14 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by CameraGuy:
The biggest problem with OMNI is that it has been used as a "playground" for users who were obsessed with padding their post count.</font>
If that is true (and I suspect it might be) we are in serious geekville.

cattle Aug 28, 2003 9:48 am

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

While I agree that post counts lend extra credibility in some cases I think that regular contributors (or lurkers) get to know the helpful people rather quickly. I think you could even eliminate the counters and most people wouldn't care. That being said, they do help keep my "geekiness" in check http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

MapleLeaf Aug 28, 2003 9:55 am

Now here is a problem. If you edit a post it counts it as a new post and then gives you the 150 second timeout. That is a bit extreme, in my humble opinion. Can this be adjusted?

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ScottC Aug 28, 2003 9:56 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by MapleLeaf:
Now here is a problem. If you edit a post it counts it as a new post and then gives you the 150 second timeout. That is a bit extreme, in my humble opinion. Can this be adjusted?

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Are you SURE? I haven't had that yet....

LondonElite Aug 28, 2003 10:13 am

...don't edit! Make a point and stand by it http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

ozstamps Aug 28, 2003 10:17 am

I often spell worse than anyone on FT and edit that out. Have not had the flood control with edits today IIRC, in a lot of Forums I have edited in.

cactuspete Aug 28, 2003 11:20 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by CameraGuy:
Pete,

What happens when one of the Pro-doc cliques starts bumping threads?
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When has that ever happened?

In any event, the same common-sense rule would apply.

cactuspete Aug 28, 2003 11:24 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by FewMiles:
So now being annoying is not allowed? It was previously not a violation of the FlyerTalk TOS, nor is it now, as far as I know.

FewMiles..
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I personally find your incessant whining about doc and "sadly no/ http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif" posts far more annoying than any of doc's posts. Should I throw a fit about it and clog up the boards with garbage until I get my way?

dhammer53 Aug 28, 2003 12:35 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by cactuspete:
Should I throw a fit about it and clog up the boards with garbage until I get my way?</font>
Sure. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

hfly Aug 28, 2003 12:41 pm

Yeah, some posters spell so bad that they have to change whole paragraphs and subjects when they edit. Too bad that many of their best spelling mistakes get saved by others for future reference.

Fraser Aug 28, 2003 2:11 pm

personally I am not a great fan of the new flood control, if I had my way I'd have no flood control http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

I personally can see that some people do post in OMNI to bump their post count, it is something I personally don't get but some threads like 'WAT' and 'Who is the next Flyertalker to post' etc. require frequent posting

my $0.02

Randy Petersen Aug 28, 2003 4:16 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by fbgdavidson:
... if I had my way I'd have no flood control http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif </font>
Well, today you do get your way. Thanks for the input, and you others can thank this member for the 'revised' even newer flood control. It is now... 60 seconds.

FewMiles Aug 28, 2003 4:26 pm

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

Where's that WAT again?

FewMiles..

Gaza Aug 29, 2003 6:18 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by cactuspete:
I personally find your incessant whining about doc and "sadly no/ " posts far more annoying than any of doc's posts. Should I throw a fit about it and clog up the boards with garbage until I get my way?</font>
May I suggest that we try to lay the "pre-OMNI closedown" grudges to rest and move-on?

cactuspete Aug 29, 2003 9:07 am

Grudge? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/confused.gif Try re-reading this thread in context. Like you, I'm merely making a suggestion.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/thumbsup.gif http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/thumbsup.gif for cutting back flood control to 60 seconds.

Fraser Aug 29, 2003 3:05 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Randy Petersen:
Well, today you do get your way. Thanks for the input, and you others can thank this member for the 'revised' even newer flood control. It is now... 60 seconds.</font>
Thanks, Randy http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/thumbsup.gif http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/thumbsup.gif

Keep up the good work on Flyertalk http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

doc Sep 8, 2003 6:43 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by cactuspete:

...[Thanks] for cutting back flood control to 60 seconds.</font>
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Absolutely! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

IMHO, this was a no brainer! See earlier discussion here:

http://www.flyertalk.com/pasttalk/ft...ML/000474.html

Thanks again, Randy! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

-Mark


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