How to specify long layover?
#1
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Join Date: Feb 2017
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How to specify long layover?
I am looking to book a flight from JFK to CEB (Cebu, Philippines). I can't sleep on planes, and I want to spend the night in the ICN (Inchon, South Korea) airport hotel, which worked out very well for me in the past.
In looking at travel sites, they seem to have fewer listings for long-layover flights than in the past. I can tell by the time to this destination, if it is 21-24 hours, it's a short layover, but there are flights with 32-40 hour total lengths, which means a nice long layover.
Some sites let you specify a maximum time but not a minimum. I tried looking on the airlines sites (Asiana and Korean Air) but they're not much help either. I also tried looking up the individual flights (for example, ICN to CEB), but this often generated errors on the websites, and in any case, I wouldn't know how to combine them into an itinerary even if I did find them.
I know there's some kind of way to "link" flights so that if your first flight is delayed and you miss the second one, you're not on your own. I don't know what this is called or how to do it, though.
It all seems so complicated, and the different aggregators (like expedia, skyscanner, kayak) show different combinations of flights, so there's not even any complete list of what's available. The whole system seems flaky and inconsistent, if not malicious (the thing with raising rates if you look for the same flight again).
Is this something I'd have to get an old-fashioned travel agent to do, or is there some way to look at the individual flights on my own, or to specify a longer layover when searching?
In looking at travel sites, they seem to have fewer listings for long-layover flights than in the past. I can tell by the time to this destination, if it is 21-24 hours, it's a short layover, but there are flights with 32-40 hour total lengths, which means a nice long layover.
Some sites let you specify a maximum time but not a minimum. I tried looking on the airlines sites (Asiana and Korean Air) but they're not much help either. I also tried looking up the individual flights (for example, ICN to CEB), but this often generated errors on the websites, and in any case, I wouldn't know how to combine them into an itinerary even if I did find them.
I know there's some kind of way to "link" flights so that if your first flight is delayed and you miss the second one, you're not on your own. I don't know what this is called or how to do it, though.
It all seems so complicated, and the different aggregators (like expedia, skyscanner, kayak) show different combinations of flights, so there's not even any complete list of what's available. The whole system seems flaky and inconsistent, if not malicious (the thing with raising rates if you look for the same flight again).
Is this something I'd have to get an old-fashioned travel agent to do, or is there some way to look at the individual flights on my own, or to specify a longer layover when searching?
#2
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Try a multi-city search, i.e. NYC-ICN, then ICN-CEB for the day after you first flight arrives. In many cases, this will return long, but sub-24hr layovers, at or near the price of the shorter flights.
I am a non-sleeper too and I often do this, in order to force daytime westbound sectors.
I am a non-sleeper too and I often do this, in order to force daytime westbound sectors.
#4
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Yes, because you would still be booking it as a single reservation with a single ticket number rather than as two separate tickets.
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Some booking sites allow you to rank flights according to the total time. Once you have done this, scroll down until you find an acceptable length of time.
#6
Join Date: Aug 2010
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Use ITA Matrix to find your itinerary.
Departing from: JFK
Destination CEB
Click Advanced routing codes
In the advanced routing codes field, enter "icn / minconnect 700" without quotes, where 700 is the minimum connection time you want, in minutes. "icn" forces a single connection at ICN.
You may want to sort by duration. When you find the itinerary you want to book, click on the price on the left to get the full detail page. You can't book on ITA Matrix, but keep this page open.
Open a new tab and go to bookwithmatrix.com. Copy the text of the full detail page in ITA Matrix (Windows: Ctrl + A then Ctrl + C, Mac: Command A then Command C). Paste into the search box on bookwithmatrix.com. Bookwithmatrix will give you links to booking sites with the itinerary populated and ready to book.
Departing from: JFK
Destination CEB
Click Advanced routing codes
In the advanced routing codes field, enter "icn / minconnect 700" without quotes, where 700 is the minimum connection time you want, in minutes. "icn" forces a single connection at ICN.
You may want to sort by duration. When you find the itinerary you want to book, click on the price on the left to get the full detail page. You can't book on ITA Matrix, but keep this page open.
Open a new tab and go to bookwithmatrix.com. Copy the text of the full detail page in ITA Matrix (Windows: Ctrl + A then Ctrl + C, Mac: Command A then Command C). Paste into the search box on bookwithmatrix.com. Bookwithmatrix will give you links to booking sites with the itinerary populated and ready to book.