Opaque Hotel Booking Websites

Old Jun 27, 11, 12:10 pm
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Priceline has a patent on their customer bidding model that appears to be robust, as nobody has copied them. All of the other opaque sites seem to use fixed pricing a la Hotwire and Wotif
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Old Jul 25, 11, 11:48 am
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Sorry for reviving this thread a month later but I had pulled it up looking for info on Travelocity Top Secret Hotels after the fact.

Empirically, I agree that we've always had "better luck" with Priceline than Hotwire and essentially end up using Hotwire as a basis for our bid strategy/upper limit with Priceline.

However, question: If Priceline, Hotwire, TTSH, etc don't have the same stable of hotels, is it really an apples to apple comparison to say "No one beats Priceline" (while keeping in mind, I'm looking for the cheapest price based on expected amenities/parameters for a star level and obviously being fairly flexible on the actual property I end up with).
Case in point, we recently bid for a place a week and a half out: Hotwire was showing ~$60+ for the areas we wanted to stay in (just checked again today and still shows similar pricing). We bid up to $50 in equivalent areas via Priceline with no luck. Used TTSH's and won a place for $45. Hotel was not listed as a known hotel for Priceline (but surprisingly with Hotwire with same star parameters).

I suspect our recent TTSH purchase was likely more of an aberration but I'm curious if there was anything going on behind the scenes to allow this to happen (eg. Travelocity working some undercutting somehow, etc??).
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Old Jul 25, 11, 6:50 pm
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Originally Posted by Jay71 View Post
I suspect our recent TTSH purchase was likely more of an aberration but I'm curious if there was anything going on behind the scenes to allow this to happen (eg. Travelocity working some undercutting somehow, etc??).
The reason it is important to know all of the sites is that they do not always have the same inventory. In fact, I believe participating hotels need to list to each of the opaque systems separately (remember some of the sites above share inventory as siblings). I have also had similar experiences where even bidding on Priceline does not procure a hit where I can just make a 'retail' opaque purchase from another site that has a similar price. Now, a purchase from any of the opaque sites might remove a particular hotel's inventory for that exact room across any site automatically, but that is determined by the hotel's revenue management software.

How often would I check all of the opaque sites before determining bid price? Not too often unless I was having a particularly hard time getting my desired area like this example you mentioned.

It is important to understand the following:

-Star ratings are not consistent (so a 3 star on Hotwire might be a 2 star Priceline -- I have personally seen this a few times).
-Priceline is thought to have the potential for the lowest price because you could bid the actual cost if you hit it on the button and by not showing a price up-front, it is believe they have better ability to sell at a lower price than those who list prices up front.
-Some sites (non-Priceline) disclose range or actual mandatory resort fees before purchase (which Priceline does not do except to warn that they may exist)
-Sometimes things like airport shuttle, free breakfast and other options are important to you, if so, a few opaque sites are better options

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Old Sep 28, 11, 2:33 am
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How I Search 30 Top Hotel Booking Sites With 1 Click

I found an article which explains how you can search most the sites above at once to get the best rate at How I Search 30 Top Hotel Booking Sites With 1 Click



Originally Posted by rasheed View Post
Due to the clear popularity of Priceline and Hotwire, opaque hotel booking website where the hotel booking site does not tell you the hotel before you confirm payment have grown tremendously over the past year. It appears Priceline is still the only site where you offer a price while the other sites display a price (their cost plus some variable delta profit amount) that you must pay before knowing the hotel.

Here is a blog link of major companies that offer such booking options. All provide prices up-front except Priceline. Some sites share inventory (such as Expedia and Hotwire):

http://www.xotels.com/en/revenue-man...opaque-pricing

Some of the links mentioned:

Priceline
http://www.priceline.com/

Hotwire
http://www.hotwire.com/

Bookit.com (Mystery Hotel)
http://bookit.com/hotels/

DHR Secret Hotels (used to be GTAHotels)
http://www.dhr.com/deals/hotels/secr...crethotels.php

Expedia Unpublished Rate Hotels (Hotwire inventory)
http://www.expedia.com/daily/hotels/...es/default.asp

Getaroom
http://www.getaroom.com/ (indicates better rates available via phone not online)

HotelDirect.co.uk Hidden Gems
http://www.hoteldirect.co.uk/webapp/...ms&city=London

LastMinute (part of Travelocity)
http://www.lastminute.com/site/trave...op-secret.html

LastMinuteTravel
http://www.lastminutetravel.com/info/deals.aspx

Quickbook Hotels (Secret Sale)
http://www.quikbook.com/

Superbreak Mystery Hotels (Europe)
http://www.superbreak.com/marketing/mystery-hotels

Traveocity Top Secret Hotels
http://leisure.travelocity.com/Promo...s_main,00.html

Wotif.com Wot Hotel? (Australia)
http://promo.wotif.com/Australia/WotHotel/

I am willing to update this thread with additional booking sites. I believe the sites above are large enough providers (sometimes for only certain geographic regions), but you are on your own for any or all of these sites.

Thanks,
Rasheed
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Old Nov 21, 11, 7:15 pm
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Originally Posted by redinbage View Post
I found an article which explains how you can search most the sites above at once to get the best rate at How I Search 30 Top Hotel Booking Sites With 1 Click
Yes, I'm a hotelscombined fan myself but it doesn't give Opaque Hotels when I've tried recently.
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Old Apr 24, 14, 4:05 am
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I am currently writing a few copies for hotel pages as part of my new job at http://HotelsClick.com and on the contrary to this "opaque" booking am trying to provide as much clear information as possible, apart from apparently obviously the hotel name

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Old Sep 23, 14, 11:25 pm
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Hello Everyone,
These days there are many websites that provide the facility of online booking for hotels or resorts for your vacations. They offers you some great discount offer's. But before booking these sites be carefull firstly conforms the hotels they offers you and the availability of rooms and price etc. They can be fraud, Instead of these sites you should prefer to go to the official website of the hotels. That ensures you about the thigs you want to know.

thanks regards.....
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Old Oct 6, 14, 3:34 pm
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One more good site

Thanks for the very useful post.

From my side I can also recommend happyrooms.com

You need to have an account to see opaque rates.

https://happyrooms.com/

Enjoy)
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Old Oct 9, 14, 11:06 am
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Not a booking site, but www.hoteldealsrevealed.com is a tool for figuring out your hotel on Hotwire and Priceline.
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Old Nov 20, 15, 12:36 am
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Online Hotel Reservation Reviews

Do negative reviews on any hotel effects it's fame upto high peak..??//
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Old Jan 23, 16, 10:43 am
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Originally Posted by Polly_K View Post
Thanks for the very useful post.

From my side I can also recommend happyrooms.com

You need to have an account to see opaque rates.

https://happyrooms.com/

Enjoy)

I just made a booking on happyrooms.com for South America. Incredible Rate that seems too low to be true. I was not an opaque booking as well, and the hotel gave me their booking number as well (I contacted them as I am an Elite Member with the Property Chain). I have searched and only read a few things, but the most seemed negative. Can any FTer Hotel Expert Chime in.. Thanks and Safe Travels
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Old Jan 24, 16, 2:46 pm
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I just made a booking on happyrooms.com for South America. Incredible Rate that seems too low to be true. I was not an opaque booking as well, and the hotel gave me their booking number as well (I contacted them as I am an Elite Member with the Property Chain). I have searched and only read a few things, but the most seemed negative. Can any FTer Hotel Expert Chime in.. Thanks and Safe Travels
If the hotel agrees you have a booking, I think you are fine.
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