Opaque Hotel Booking Websites
#17
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Vancouver, BC
Posts: 1,541
Sorry for reviving this thread a month later but I had pulled it up looking for info on Travelocity Top Secret Hotels after the fact.
Empirically, I agree that we've always had "better luck" with Priceline than Hotwire and essentially end up using Hotwire as a basis for our bid strategy/upper limit with Priceline.
However, question: If Priceline, Hotwire, TTSH, etc don't have the same stable of hotels, is it really an apples to apple comparison to say "No one beats Priceline" (while keeping in mind, I'm looking for the cheapest price based on expected amenities/parameters for a star level and obviously being fairly flexible on the actual property I end up with).
Case in point, we recently bid for a place a week and a half out: Hotwire was showing ~$60+ for the areas we wanted to stay in (just checked again today and still shows similar pricing). We bid up to $50 in equivalent areas via Priceline with no luck. Used TTSH's and won a place for $45. Hotel was not listed as a known hotel for Priceline (but surprisingly with Hotwire with same star parameters).
I suspect our recent TTSH purchase was likely more of an aberration but I'm curious if there was anything going on behind the scenes to allow this to happen (eg. Travelocity working some undercutting somehow, etc??).
Empirically, I agree that we've always had "better luck" with Priceline than Hotwire and essentially end up using Hotwire as a basis for our bid strategy/upper limit with Priceline.
However, question: If Priceline, Hotwire, TTSH, etc don't have the same stable of hotels, is it really an apples to apple comparison to say "No one beats Priceline" (while keeping in mind, I'm looking for the cheapest price based on expected amenities/parameters for a star level and obviously being fairly flexible on the actual property I end up with).
Case in point, we recently bid for a place a week and a half out: Hotwire was showing ~$60+ for the areas we wanted to stay in (just checked again today and still shows similar pricing). We bid up to $50 in equivalent areas via Priceline with no luck. Used TTSH's and won a place for $45. Hotel was not listed as a known hotel for Priceline (but surprisingly with Hotwire with same star parameters).
I suspect our recent TTSH purchase was likely more of an aberration but I'm curious if there was anything going on behind the scenes to allow this to happen (eg. Travelocity working some undercutting somehow, etc??).
#18
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Programs: AA, WN, UA, Bonvoy, Hertz
Posts: 2,473
How often would I check all of the opaque sites before determining bid price? Not too often unless I was having a particularly hard time getting my desired area like this example you mentioned.
It is important to understand the following:
-Star ratings are not consistent (so a 3 star on Hotwire might be a 2 star Priceline -- I have personally seen this a few times).
-Priceline is thought to have the potential for the lowest price because you could bid the actual cost if you hit it on the button and by not showing a price up-front, it is believe they have better ability to sell at a lower price than those who list prices up front.
-Some sites (non-Priceline) disclose range or actual mandatory resort fees before purchase (which Priceline does not do except to warn that they may exist)
-Sometimes things like airport shuttle, free breakfast and other options are important to you, if so, a few opaque sites are better options
Rasheed
#19
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 3
How I Search 30 Top Hotel Booking Sites With 1 Click
I found an article which explains how you can search most the sites above at once to get the best rate at How I Search 30 Top Hotel Booking Sites With 1 Click
Due to the clear popularity of Priceline and Hotwire, opaque hotel booking website where the hotel booking site does not tell you the hotel before you confirm payment have grown tremendously over the past year. It appears Priceline is still the only site where you offer a price while the other sites display a price (their cost plus some variable delta profit amount) that you must pay before knowing the hotel.
Here is a blog link of major companies that offer such booking options. All provide prices up-front except Priceline. Some sites share inventory (such as Expedia and Hotwire):
http://www.xotels.com/en/revenue-man...opaque-pricing
Some of the links mentioned:
Priceline
http://www.priceline.com/
Hotwire
http://www.hotwire.com/
Bookit.com (Mystery Hotel)
http://bookit.com/hotels/
DHR Secret Hotels (used to be GTAHotels)
http://www.dhr.com/deals/hotels/secr...crethotels.php
Expedia Unpublished Rate Hotels (Hotwire inventory)
http://www.expedia.com/daily/hotels/...es/default.asp
Getaroom
http://www.getaroom.com/ (indicates better rates available via phone not online)
HotelDirect.co.uk Hidden Gems
http://www.hoteldirect.co.uk/webapp/...ms&city=London
LastMinute (part of Travelocity)
http://www.lastminute.com/site/trave...op-secret.html
LastMinuteTravel
http://www.lastminutetravel.com/info/deals.aspx
Quickbook Hotels (Secret Sale)
http://www.quikbook.com/
Superbreak Mystery Hotels (Europe)
http://www.superbreak.com/marketing/mystery-hotels
Traveocity Top Secret Hotels
http://leisure.travelocity.com/Promo...s_main,00.html
Wotif.com Wot Hotel? (Australia)
http://promo.wotif.com/Australia/WotHotel/
I am willing to update this thread with additional booking sites. I believe the sites above are large enough providers (sometimes for only certain geographic regions), but you are on your own for any or all of these sites.
Thanks,
Rasheed
Here is a blog link of major companies that offer such booking options. All provide prices up-front except Priceline. Some sites share inventory (such as Expedia and Hotwire):
http://www.xotels.com/en/revenue-man...opaque-pricing
Some of the links mentioned:
Priceline
http://www.priceline.com/
Hotwire
http://www.hotwire.com/
Bookit.com (Mystery Hotel)
http://bookit.com/hotels/
DHR Secret Hotels (used to be GTAHotels)
http://www.dhr.com/deals/hotels/secr...crethotels.php
Expedia Unpublished Rate Hotels (Hotwire inventory)
http://www.expedia.com/daily/hotels/...es/default.asp
Getaroom
http://www.getaroom.com/ (indicates better rates available via phone not online)
HotelDirect.co.uk Hidden Gems
http://www.hoteldirect.co.uk/webapp/...ms&city=London
LastMinute (part of Travelocity)
http://www.lastminute.com/site/trave...op-secret.html
LastMinuteTravel
http://www.lastminutetravel.com/info/deals.aspx
Quickbook Hotels (Secret Sale)
http://www.quikbook.com/
Superbreak Mystery Hotels (Europe)
http://www.superbreak.com/marketing/mystery-hotels
Traveocity Top Secret Hotels
http://leisure.travelocity.com/Promo...s_main,00.html
Wotif.com Wot Hotel? (Australia)
http://promo.wotif.com/Australia/WotHotel/
I am willing to update this thread with additional booking sites. I believe the sites above are large enough providers (sometimes for only certain geographic regions), but you are on your own for any or all of these sites.
Thanks,
Rasheed
#20
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Sydney
Programs: QFF, Krisflyer, US Air DM, VelocityRewards, Hertz Gold, Hilton Gold, Accor Plat
Posts: 445
I found an article which explains how you can search most the sites above at once to get the best rate at How I Search 30 Top Hotel Booking Sites With 1 Click
#21
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 1
I am currently writing a few copies for hotel pages as part of my new job at http://HotelsClick.com and on the contrary to this "opaque" booking am trying to provide as much clear information as possible, apart from apparently obviously the hotel name 
Cheers !

Cheers !
#22
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 4
Hello Everyone,
These days there are many websites that provide the facility of online booking for hotels or resorts for your vacations. They offers you some great discount offer's. But before booking these sites be carefull firstly conforms the hotels they offers you and the availability of rooms and price etc. They can be fraud, Instead of these sites you should prefer to go to the official website of the hotels. That ensures you about the thigs you want to know.
thanks regards.....
These days there are many websites that provide the facility of online booking for hotels or resorts for your vacations. They offers you some great discount offer's. But before booking these sites be carefull firstly conforms the hotels they offers you and the availability of rooms and price etc. They can be fraud, Instead of these sites you should prefer to go to the official website of the hotels. That ensures you about the thigs you want to know.
thanks regards.....
#23
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 1
One more good site
Thanks for the very useful post.
From my side I can also recommend happyrooms.com
You need to have an account to see opaque rates.
https://happyrooms.com/
Enjoy)
From my side I can also recommend happyrooms.com
You need to have an account to see opaque rates.
https://happyrooms.com/
Enjoy)
#24
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 52
Not a booking site, but www.hoteldealsrevealed.com is a tool for figuring out your hotel on Hotwire and Priceline.
#26
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: LAX
Programs: UA Plat MM, CM Plat, Amex Plat, Hertz CP, Hyatt Globalist, SPG Gold, Vons Club
Posts: 6,771
Thanks for the very useful post.
From my side I can also recommend happyrooms.com
You need to have an account to see opaque rates.
https://happyrooms.com/
Enjoy)
From my side I can also recommend happyrooms.com
You need to have an account to see opaque rates.
https://happyrooms.com/
Enjoy)
I just made a booking on happyrooms.com for South America. Incredible Rate that seems too low to be true. I was not an opaque booking as well, and the hotel gave me their booking number as well (I contacted them as I am an Elite Member with the Property Chain). I have searched and only read a few things, but the most seemed negative. Can any FTer Hotel Expert Chime in.. Thanks and Safe Travels
#27
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: New York City
Posts: 3,999
I just made a booking on happyrooms.com for South America. Incredible Rate that seems too low to be true. I was not an opaque booking as well, and the hotel gave me their booking number as well (I contacted them as I am an Elite Member with the Property Chain). I have searched and only read a few things, but the most seemed negative. Can any FTer Hotel Expert Chime in.. Thanks and Safe Travels