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Originally Posted by pg79
(Post 11401861)
Try flying a Oneworld explorer across the pacific and it is impossible to stopover in Tahiti or Easter Island. This is especially irritating as QF does fly to Tahiti but with a code share partner (Air nui Tahiti) but do not make these flights available to the Oneworld alliance.
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I think OW's key advantage over it's competitors is the strength of it's members lounges. 3 core OW members in particular (BA, QF and CX) all have excellent lounges in both F and J when compared to their *A and ScaryTeam equivalents. Even OW's other big carrier AA offers fairly decent lounges when compared to other US carriers, which is great for those travelling within North America.
I also like the 3 elite tiers that OW offers, although I do wish benefits such as priority baggage was provided alliance wide. |
To the people who bang on about consistency being such a strength of OW:
Have you flown MA recently?? Are you pleased with the pay-for-water service concept offered in IB Y? How about the 4-hour 'business class' flights in standard economy seats on IB and BA (no, this is not how all European airlines do it- some actually collapse the middle seat and share the space between the other two)? Had you flown CX "regional" business class when their "region" used to include Australia? Do you think the so-called lieflat CX C product in its first generation (which AFAIK is still flying pretty long sectors e.g. AMS) is a "great travel option", especially when getting access to an arrivals facility is a lottery? I hear people banging on about CX lounges. I've not been to a lot, but do they really have such great lounges outside HKG? This post is not meant to say that oneworld is so bad and that the other alliances are so much better. All of them are all over the place and the simple fact is that membership in any of the three alliances should never be interpreted as a guarantee of good service. Personally, I feel that one alliance being better than another is all a matter of geographical coverage and market positioning, and therefore strictly individual. For example, 80% of my travel is within Europe. It would be incredibly foolish to pay for business class for those flights, so I would never make any BA status, and it's always more convenient to connect in the middle as opposed to backtracking and/or suffering a transcon before/after a very short flight, which strikes out flying with 3 out of 4 European ow members. That would leave me with Malev, which is a mediocre airline that's based in a grim airport and only seems to fly to 4 destinations outside of Albania and Moldova. OTOH, the Skyteam airlines offer fantastic coverage of Europe, with loads of sensible connections, and that's why I mostly fly with them (*A also have good coverage, but I hate FRA and I seem to be very unlucky whenever I fly LX, so I only use them occasionally). Similarly, it would take a complete idiot to choose ST over OW if they mostly flew around South America. |
A *G benefit is extra luggage (20kg where weight concept applies, one extra piece where piece concept applies. In many cases the limit for each piece is also higher although this is not official).
I believe neither ST nor OW offer this benefit, though I'm happy to be corrected. |
Originally Posted by iwillflytheworld
(Post 11404680)
A *G benefit is extra luggage (20kg where weight concept applies, one extra piece where piece concept applies. In many cases the limit for each piece is also higher although this is not official).
I believe neither ST nor OW offer this benefit, though I'm happy to be corrected. |
Originally Posted by graraps
(Post 11404823)
Skyteam definitely don't offer it (though they do offer the yellow 'priority' tag that helps you identify your bag after everyone has gotten theirs).
The priority tags on *A work (or should I say do not work) in the same way :D , except that they are red. |
Originally Posted by graraps
(Post 11404425)
Do you think the so-called lieflat CX C product in its first generation (which AFAIK is still flying pretty long sectors e.g. AMS)
I hear people banging on about CX lounges. I've not been to a lot, but do they really have such great lounges outside HKG? |
Originally Posted by iwillflytheworld
(Post 11406961)
I find the extra baggage allowance one of the most useful *G benefits ^ and I'm puzzled that the other alliances don't offer something similar.
The priority tags on *A work (or should I say do not work) in the same way :D , except that they are red. Indeed, OW airlines do not seem to have a 'unified' priority tags. Each seem to have business or first tags... and I don't mind that ;) OW Emeralds usually get F class tags (:D) if the airline has F class (BA, CX, QF, etc.). |
Originally Posted by brahms77
(Post 11407340)
Don't OW sapphire and emerald members get extra luggage allowance as well?
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Originally Posted by graraps
(Post 11404425)
To the people who bang on about consistency being such a strength of OW:
Have you flown MA recently??
Originally Posted by graraps
(Post 11404425)
Are you pleased with the pay-for-water service concept offered in IB Y? How about the 4-hour 'business class' flights in standard economy seats on IB and BA (no, this is not how all European airlines do it- some actually collapse the middle seat and share the space between the other two)?
Originally Posted by graraps
(Post 11404425)
Had you flown CX "regional" business class when their "region" used to include Australia? Do you think the so-called lieflat CX C product in its first generation (which AFAIK is still flying pretty long sectors e.g. AMS) is a "great travel option", especially when getting access to an arrivals facility is a lottery?
Originally Posted by graraps
(Post 11404425)
I hear people banging on about CX lounges. I've not been to a lot, but do they really have such great lounges outside HKG?
Originally Posted by graraps
(Post 11404425)
This post is not meant to say that oneworld is so bad and that the other alliances are so much better. All of them are all over the place and the simple fact is that membership in any of the three alliances should never be interpreted as a guarantee of good service.
Originally Posted by graraps
(Post 11404425)
Personally, I feel that one alliance being better than another is all a matter of geographical coverage and market positioning, and therefore strictly individual.
Originally Posted by graraps
(Post 11404425)
For example, 80% of my travel is within Europe. It would be incredibly foolish to pay for business class for those flights, so I would never make any BA status, and it's always more convenient to connect in the middle as opposed to backtracking and/or suffering a transcon before/after a very short flight, which strikes out flying with 3 out of 4 European ow members. That would leave me with Malev, which is a mediocre airline that's based in a grim airport and only seems to fly to 4 destinations outside of Albania and Moldova.
Originally Posted by graraps
(Post 11404425)
OTOH, the Skyteam airlines offer fantastic coverage of Europe, with loads of sensible connections, and that's why I mostly fly with them (*A also have good coverage, but I hate FRA and I seem to be very unlucky whenever I fly LX, so I only use them occasionally).
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