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Originally Posted by jbalmuth (Post 11386019)

I think that it would be useful if you could please compare the 2 dozen or so tax line details to see which changed between the AA and QF purchase screens, and report back.

An update and eye opener. The tax calculation changed even though I used saved itineraries. Both decreased during the last week, though on QF it was only about 5,000 KRW. AA decreased by over 50%.:confused:

Immigration and Naturalization Service Fee 22,000.00 KRW
Finland - Passenger Fee - International 20,400.00 KRW
Passenger Facility Charges 7,100.00 KRW
Passenger Service Charge (International) for
South Korea 28,000.00 KRW
International Departure Tax for Chile 47,000.00 KRW
UK Passenger Service Charge 46,500.00 KRW
U.S Animal and Plant Inspection Service Users Fee 15,800.00 KRW
U.S Customs Fee 17,200.00 KRW
September 11th Security Fee 8,000.00 KRW
Finland - Security Charge - Domestic International 9,000.00 KRW

total taxes/surcharges = 221,000.00 KRW
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Adult traveller(s)
Immigration and Naturalization Service Fee 22,000.00 KRW
Finland - Passenger Fee - International 20,400.00 KRW
Passenger Facility Charges 7,100.00 KRW
Passenger Service Facilities Charge - Japan 32,400.00 KRW
Passenger Service Charge (International) for
South Korea 28,000.00 KRW
International Departure Tax for Chile 47,000.00 KRW
UK Passenger Service Charge 46,500.00 KRW
Airline Insurance Surcharge 5,100.00 KRW
U.S Animal and Plant Inspection Service Users Fee 15,800.00 KRW
U.S Customs Fee 17,200.00 KRW
September 11th Security Fee 8,000.00 KRW
Finland - Security Charge - Domestic International 9,000.00 KRW

total taxes/surcharges = 258,500.00 KRW

Aside from the 2 bolded items which QF charges (probably due to the NRT stopover), the taxes are the same. It may be just a function of the fact that LA and AY had 3 long haul flights, while there were only 2 AA long-haul flights.

I'm extremely intrigued as to how you've avoided the Airline Fuel Surcharge --- the general source of large differences between quotes (and the purpose of this thread) ---for both itineraries

Would you please clarify again what exactly are the differences between the 2 itineraries in regard to the first 2 legs ---- i.e. dates, times, flight number to NRT, flight number to JFK?

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbalmuth (Post 11409373)

You might also want to look at posts 6-8 on this thread: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onewo...-question.html

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gardyloo (Post 11409463)

You might also want to look at posts 6-8 on this thread: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onewo...-question.html

In note 11 above, headinclouds reported that he had booked an itinerary where the first two legs were

ICN (JL) NRT
stopover
NRT (AA) JFK

and in his note 16, this JL itinerary (ticketed by QF) had no YQ Airline Fuel Surcharge of any kind. I tried replicating that and can't ---- can you?

Here I am at home convalescing after having my appendix removed (thanks in advance for all your get well wishes:p) - so I decided to do a little study of the Fuel Surcharges that airlines will charge for the same itinerary. The tables below summarise the results

For simplicity I devised an itinerary that keeps the number of segments low – namely

LHR-(BA/CX/QF)-HKG-(JL)-NRT-(AA)-JFK-(LA)-SCL-(IB)-MAD-(RJ)-AMM-BUD-(AY)-HEL-LHR

Starting from LHR – I produced three itineraries – one with a BA flight for the first segment, then CX then QF. The next itinerary started from HKG flying JL – it ended with a LHR-HKG tagged on the end. And so on, ending with an itinerary starting BUD-HEL and ending AMM-BUD

Summary results in local currency:

Code:

Airline        Start        Cur’cy        Base        All Tax        YQ Component

BA        LHR        GBP        2,052        442.20        178.00

CX        LHR        GBP        2,052        412.70        112.00

QF        LHR        GBP        2,052        442.20        185.50

JL        HKG        HKD        27,600        2,959        78.00

AA        NRT        JPY        370,000        31,340        3,500

LA        JFK        USD        4,404        225.98        -

IB        SCL        USD        3,304        596.29        190.00

RJ        MAD        EUR        2,472        246.62        107.62

MA        AMM                                

AY        BUD        HUF        637,800        70,000        -

Summary results in AUD:

Code:

Airline        Start                Base        All Tax        YQ Component 

BA        LHR                3,697.30        796.76        320.72

CX        LHR                3,697.30        743.60        201.80

QF        LHR                3,697.30        796.76        334.23

JL        HKG                4,107.14        440.33        11.61

AA        NRT                4,786.55        405.43        45.28

LA        JFK                5,091.33        261.25        -

IB        SCL                3,819.65        689.35        219.65

RJ        MAD                3,899.05        388.99        169.75

MA        AMM                                

AY        BUD                3,665.52        402.30        -

YQ Findings:

The tool would not let me start an itinerary with MA as the first carrier (neither AMM-BUD nor BUD-HEL)
AY and LA charged no YQ
JL and AA charged a small YQ
RJ, CX and IB were in the middle
BA and QF were the expensive ones

No idea why I posted what I did:p