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thetravelguy Jan 31, 2009 2:28 pm

Cheers to One World for a masterstroke/Someone a *A has to get fired
 
It it clear that being a pricing leader has its drawbacks

*A RTW strategy was to raise the prices from major countries to create a rush of ticket sales before the new fares going into effect

One World stood back, watched and waited for Star Alliance to make their move. Now that *A decided to raise prices, the 10% discount with One World being announced on the very day that *A price increases go into effect is nothing short of a masterstroke, perfect timing and a PR coup.

While *A will likely receive a short term boost in ticket sales, One World now has a ten week window where it will be 20%+ less than *A, and as *A now has its foot in its mouth it will likely not move fares downward in the near future.

In short, the team that came up with the 10% for 10 weeks promo with One World should get an award. Value hungry travelers looking for deals may now try One World (who would not have if *A had not done anything with prices) and put further strain on *A premium passenger sales.

There will be at least one more person in the next unemployement report: the person that came up with the price for the *A RTW fares effective Feb 1

tfung Jan 31, 2009 6:21 pm

Considering that OW was quite a bit more expensive than *A in some countries to start with.. I don't think its that much of a coup by OW... Besides, both RTW products are quite different, one mileage based and another segment based... so they were never compared apples to apples before anyways...

Kiwi Flyer Jan 31, 2009 6:27 pm

The *A RTW fare increases were for origins with significantly devalued currencies. I expect OW will be following suit at some stage.

Still, it is nice their 10 year anniversary can benefit everyone as opposed to the *A 10 year anniversary promo which was a damp squib.

thetravelguy Feb 1, 2009 4:24 pm

Last time I checked, the USD was the strongest currency of a bad bunch and prices have been hiked out of the U.S.. *A used the old line sales tactic of ' Price is going up, get your money in quick' to stimulate artificial demand. OW stood back and picked their moment. With the 10% sale with OW, and the price increase with *A the *A 29K fare is now 18% more than the DONE3. The *A 34K and 39K fare is now 26% more than DONE4 and DONE4 fare.

Mileaege loyalty is one thing, but cash is cash. Anyone considering a *A RTW out of the U.S would have to take a long hard look at OW under this promo. In this time of uncertainty, the last thing any business should do is anything to alienate a loyal customer. All I am suggesting is that *A move put it in a vulnerable position to have customers now look at other options that would may not have done so otherwise

Rambuster Feb 1, 2009 4:28 pm

For us at FT it may seem as a coup by OW.
On the other hand, *A RTW do offer a much wider range of destinations and carriers.
(I have been on ca. 10 *A RTW whereas so far I have only been on one DoneX tickets ... nothing to do with price or Aliinace as I am both *G and OW Emerald but simply by schedule and destination served)

thetravelguy Feb 3, 2009 6:11 pm

Yes, *A may have a wider range of routes but I still believe that letting *A raise their prices before introducing the OW fare sale was perfect timing. Perhaps there are routing where *A works better but for someone looking at say New York Frankfurt-Seoul -Hong Kong Singapore-New York, sure with OW they have to make connections for this to work but 18% is 18% and right now OW is 18% less for the same basic trip but perhaps with an added connection. If you add Australia into the equation, then it should be a no brainer to use QF equipment (and perhaps with the A380) vs the UAL nonstops

There is a shortage of full fare paying passengers these days, and any move on price that could make a loyal customer look at alternatives is a very dicey move. Most carrier prices themselves on similar routes at the same fare level, but no longer with the RTW's. Only time will tell who benefited more: *A with added revenue through a price hike or OW through more passengers filling empty seats with a price reduction and creating new customers


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