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Oneworld explorer Taxes
I am considering booking the flights below and read some talk about big tax differences on routes that are similar to one another - can someone check if the tax on this looks right and if there is anyway to reduce any of it? thanks
Travellers Fare Taxes (beakdown at bottom of page) 1 Adult(s) x (1,549.00 + 365.60) = 1,914.60 GBP Monday 19 January 2009 Departure: 20:50 London, United Kingdom - Heathrow Arrival: 10:25 +1 day(s) Delhi, India - Indira Gandhi International Airline: British Airways BA257 E Mumbai (Bombay) to Bangkok Monday 2 March 2009 Departure: 05:20 Mumbai (Bombay), India - Chhatrapati Shivaji Arrival: 10:45 Bangkok, Thailand - Suvarnabhumi International Airline: Cathay Pacific CX750 E Bangkok to Sydney Sunday 10 May 2009 Departure: 18:10 Bangkok, Thailand - Suvarnabhumi International Arrival: 06:05 +1 day(s) Sydney, Australia - Kingsford Smith Airline: British Airways BA9 E Sydney to Melbourne Sunday 21 June 2009 Departure: 12:00 Sydney, Australia - Kingsford Smith Arrival: 13:30 Melbourne, Australia - Tullamarine Airline: Qantas Airways QF431 E Melbourne to Perth Sunday 5 July 2009 Departure: 10:45 Melbourne, Australia - Tullamarine Arrival: 12:55 Perth, Australia - Perth Airline: Qantas Airways QF475 E Perth to Darwin Sunday 19 July 2009 Departure: 08:20 Perth, Australia - Perth Arrival: 13:15 Darwin, Australia - Darwin Airline: Qantas Airways QF792 E Darwin to Cairns Sunday 9 August 2009 Departure: 07:00 Darwin, Australia - Darwin Arrival: 09:55 Cairns, Australia - Cairns Airline: Qantas Airways QF1871 E Sydney to Santiago Saturday 19 September 2009 Departure: 10:55 Sydney, Australia - Kingsford Smith Arrival: 13:05 Santiago, Chile - Arturo Merino Benitez Airline: LAN Airlines LA800 E Santiago to Easter Island Sunday 20 September 2009 Departure: 08:10 Santiago, Chile - Arturo Merino Benitez Arrival: 11:50 Easter Island, Chile - Mataveri International Airline: LAN Airlines LA841 E Easter Island to Santiago Thursday 24 September 2009 Departure: 10:45 Easter Island, Chile - Mataveri International Arrival: 17:25 Santiago, Chile - Arturo Merino Benitez Airline: LAN Airlines LA834 E Santiago to Quito Friday 25 September 2009 Departure: 15:05 Santiago, Chile - Arturo Merino Benitez Arrival: 20:55 Quito, Ecuador - Mariscal Sucr Airline: LAN Airlines LA1446 E Quito to Lima Friday 9 October 2009 Departure: 09:10 Quito, Ecuador - Mariscal Sucr Arrival: 11:25 Lima, Peru - J Chavez International Airline: LAN Airlines LA2589 E Buenos Aires to London Tuesday 22 December 2009 Departure: 14:15 Buenos Aires, Argentina - Pistarini Arrival: 07:15 +1 day(s) London, United Kingdom - Heathrow Airline: British Airways BA246 E Travellers Fare Taxes 1 Adult(s) x (1,549.00 + 365.60) = 1,914.60 GBP Adult traveller(s) Airline Fuel Surcharge 137.00 GBP Tax description unavailable (YRVB) 0.80 GBP Tax description unavailable (QODP) 6.90 GBP Tax description unavailable (CLLO) 12.60 GBP Tax description unavailable (ZQAD) 20.70 GBP Tax description unavailable (WTSE) 2.10 GBP Airline Insurance Surcharge 7.50 GBP Thailand Passenger Service Charge 13.90 GBP Tax description unavailable (WOMU) 4.00 GBP Tax description unavailable (DYAE) 10.30 GBP Multiple Surcharges 9.50 GBP Australian Passenger Service Charge 23.60 GBP Tax description unavailable (TQSE) 1.70 GBP Tax description unavailable (QREB) 14.00 GBP UK Air Passenger Duty 40.00 GBP Tax description unavailable (WGSE) 6.00 GBP UK Passenger Service Charge 19.70 GBP Tax description unavailable (QRCO) 12.40 GBP Australia Passenger Movement Charge 22.90 GBP 365.60 GBP x 1 Adult(s) = 365.60 GBP total taxes/surcharges = 365.60 GBP |
To reduce the taxes, fly your first flight on AA. Unfortunately they don't fly London-India, so you would have to change your itinerary. It could save you the 137 GBP fuel surcharge part of the taxes. Also you can try different airlines. They might be a bit better than BA.
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Or you can split LHR-DEL into two segments
LHR-AMM and AMM-DEL or LHR-HEL and HEL-DEL the first segment of both of these can be done on american airlines codeshare. |
There really isn't that much you can do about it. As mentioned, the big piece is the fuel surcharge line, with second place going to UK- and Australia government fees which you can't avoid unless you start somewhere besides the UK and/or skip Australia. By starting in the UK on an LONEx you're already getting a price which is considerably cheaper than anywhere else in Europe, so reducing the UK taxes by starting someplace else would have a negative outcome.
I doubt AA would be interested in issuing the ticket as you have no AA segments planned. I also don't believe you could book LHR-AMM using the AA code unless the segment was married to an AA metal one. If you want to "decode" those items listed as "tax description unavailable" you can start the (laborious) task here. |
Originally Posted by Gardyloo
(Post 11037425)
I doubt AA would be interested in issuing the ticket as you have no AA segments planned. I also don't believe you could book LHR-AMM using the AA code unless the segment was married to an AA metal one.
2nd issue - this codeshare allows for non-married segments. I checked AA timetable |
Originally Posted by Gardyloo
(Post 11037425)
There really isn't that much you can do about it. As mentioned, the big piece is the fuel surcharge line, with second place going to UK- and Australia government fees which you can't avoid unless you start somewhere besides the UK and/or skip Australia. By starting in the UK on an LONEx you're already getting a price which is considerably cheaper than anywhere else in Europe, so reducing the UK taxes by starting someplace else would have a negative outcome.
I doubt AA would be interested in issuing the ticket as you have no AA segments planned. I also don't believe you could book LHR-AMM using the AA code unless the segment was married to an AA metal one. If you want to "decode" those items listed as "tax description unavailable" you can start the (laborious) task here. |
Originally Posted by nologic
(Post 11038434)
AA makes money off issueing RWT tickets and the AA RTW desk will be happy to do it, although don;t be surprised if they try and convince you to fly AA.
For the tax it seems a bit high as I paid less tax on my DONE4 and I have max out the LHR stopovers (ie. 2 LHR stopovers 3 departures). If I only discover the AA RTW earlier! |
Originally Posted by JanoS-
(Post 11038272)
1st issue - true. AA will probably not ticket this. However the online ticketing engine will.
2nd issue - this codeshare allows for non-married segments. I checked AA timetable On the oneworld planner when I search for flights LHR-DEL it does not give me the option of an indirect via AMM only via HEL (and that seems to be on Finnish Air - no AA mentioned) Also if I split this flight I will use up an extra sector so will need to lose one later in my itinery which will mean I would need to pay for flight in Australia (rpbably Darwin to Brisbane) that I am getting included in my present schedule - so overall I won't save much and have the hassle of a longer journey to DEL...I am I understanding this correctly? |
Originally Posted by JanoS-
(Post 11038272)
1st issue - true. AA will probably not ticket this. However the online ticketing engine will.
2nd issue - this codeshare allows for non-married segments. I checked AA timetable Dave |
Originally Posted by kulevet
(Post 11041209)
Thanks for all your replies....
On the oneworld planner when I search for flights LHR-DEL it does not give me the option of an indirect via AMM only via HEL (and that seems to be on Finnish Air - no AA mentioned) Also if I split this flight I will use up an extra sector so will need to lose one later in my itinery which will mean I would need to pay for flight in Australia (rpbably Darwin to Brisbane) that I am getting included in my present schedule - so overall I won't save much and have the hassle of a longer journey to DEL...I am I understanding this correctly? |
Originally Posted by kulevet
(Post 11041318)
som does this mean I have to call the AA RTW desk directly to book this route - is there a desk in the UK or do I have to call the States (and where would I find the number?) cheers
I purchased DONE4 ex) ICN through AA (booked via AA ATW desk) where I have not a single AA segment (as I am not traveling to N.America). AA agents were happy to do it for me. As a result, I saved about 880,000 KRW as opposed to booking it via travel agent in Korea - who would be trying to issue the ticket with JL or CX + service charge. Thanks AA. |
Originally Posted by kulevet
(Post 11041318)
som does this mean I have to call the AA RTW desk directly to book this route - is there a desk in the UK or do I have to call the States (and where would I find the number?) cheers
Dave |
Originally Posted by Gardyloo
(Post 11037425)
There really isn't that much you can do about it. As mentioned, the big piece is the fuel surcharge line, with second place going to UK- and Australia government fees which you can't avoid unless you start somewhere besides the UK and/or skip Australia. By starting in the UK on an LONEx you're already getting a price which is considerably cheaper than anywhere else in Europe, so reducing the UK taxes by starting someplace else would have a negative outcome.
I doubt AA would be interested in issuing the ticket as you have no AA segments planned. I also don't believe you could book LHR-AMM using the AA code unless the segment was married to an AA metal one. If you want to "decode" those items listed as "tax description unavailable" you can start the (laborious) task here.
Originally Posted by kulevet
(Post 11041209)
Thanks for all your replies....
On the oneworld planner when I search for flights LHR-DEL it does not give me the option of an indirect via AMM only via HEL (and that seems to be on Finnish Air - no AA mentioned) Also if I split this flight I will use up an extra sector so will need to lose one later in my itinery which will mean I would need to pay for flight in Australia (rpbably Darwin to Brisbane) that I am getting included in my present schedule - so overall I won't save much and have the hassle of a longer journey to DEL...I am I understanding this correctly? Also, try adding LHR-AMM-DEL as two segments. Only the first segment has AA codeshare, the second does not. |
Originally Posted by JanoS-
(Post 11041630)
I believe your itinerary has less than 15 segments, so is there a problem adding extra one?
Also, try adding LHR-AMM-DEL as two segments. Only the first segment has AA codeshare, the second does not. Itinery is already 16 LHR-DEL: 1st of 1 2: DEL-BOM: surface 3: BOM-BKK: 1st of 4 (Asia) 4: BKK-SYD: intercontinental 5: SYD-MEL: 1st of 4 (Southwest Pacific) 6: MEL-PER: 2nd of 4 (Southwest Pacific) 7: PER-DRW: 3rd of 4 (Southwest Pacific) 8: DRW-BNE: 4th of 4 (Southwest Pacific) 9: BNE-SYD: surface 10: SYD-SCL: intercontinental 11: SCL-IPC: 1st of 4 (South America) 12: IPC-SCL: 2nd of 4 (South America) 13: SCL-UIO: 3rd of 4 (South America) 14: UIO-LIM: 4th of 4 (South America) 15: LIM-EZE: surface 16: EZE-LHR: intercontinental Plus when I look on the oneworld site for LHR-AMM flights it wont produce an AA codeshare flight - only a Royal Jordanian codeshare Think I will just go with what I have! |
Originally Posted by kulevet
(Post 11041839)
Plus when I look on the oneworld site for LHR-AMM flights it wont produce an AA codeshare flight - only a Royal Jordanian codeshare Think I will just go with what I have! |
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