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Hans78 Jul 11, 2008 3:18 am

Valid Global Explorer 26k routing?
 
Hello!

I did LONE4 couple years ago and got some awesome tips from FT, so here we go again :)

This time I'm planning Global Explorer 26k trip but I'm having hard time understanding the rules.

Would this be valid routing and under 26k? I have no idea how to calculate the miles? :confused: Can I do short stop (under 24h) in all connection points?

HEL-CDG (connection)
CDG-DFW (connection)
DFW-LAS (stopover)
LAS-SFO (surface)
SFO-HNL (stopover)
HNL-SYD (connection)
SYD-AKL (stopover)
AKL-HKG (connection)
HKG-PVG (stopover)
PVG-NRT (stopover)
NRT-HEL

Thank you!

Mwenenzi Jul 11, 2008 4:33 am


Originally Posted by Hans78 (Post 10016885)
I have no idea how to calculate the miles?

Great circle mapper calculate the miles as 28870 :(
You need to remove a few airports

A LONE4 may be a better option
Origin: HEL (fi) xONEx Fare Estimate
1: HEL-CDG: 1st of 4 (Europe)
2: CDG-DFW: 1st of 1 (intercontinental entry to North America without immediate transit & departure)
3: DFW-LAS: 1st of 6 (North America)
4: LAS-SFO: surface
5: SFO-HNL: 2nd of 6 (North America)
6: HNL-SYD: intercontinental
7: SYD-AKL: 1st of 4 (Southwest Pacific)
8: AKL-HKG: 1st of 1 (intercontinental entry to Asia without immediate transit & departure)
9: HKG-PVG: 1st of 4 (Asia)
10: PVG-NRT: 2nd of 4 (Asia)
11: NRT-HEL: intercontinental

Hans78 Jul 11, 2008 6:57 am

Wikitravel says:

...but transits/connections are not included in mileage totals, which is a big advantage over Star Alliance's RTW.

What does this mean? :confused:

millionmiler Jul 11, 2008 7:03 am


Originally Posted by Hans78 (Post 10017387)
Wikitravel says:

...but transits/connections are not included in mileage totals, which is a big advantage over Star Alliance's RTW.

What does this mean? :confused:

It means that connections and transits are treated as nonstops. I can't personally confirm that's correct but if correct that is what it would mean.

Hans78 Jul 11, 2008 7:38 am

Would it cut down the total mileage of my trip?

If not, maybe I can change SYD to NAN and... Any good ideas?

Thanks guys! ^

Gardyloo Jul 11, 2008 8:51 am


Originally Posted by Hans78 (Post 10017387)
Wikitravel says:

...but transits/connections are not included in mileage totals, which is a big advantage over Star Alliance's RTW.

What does this mean? :confused:

Wikitravel is in error. All miles count, including the miles for surface segments.

Kiwi Flyer Jul 11, 2008 6:27 pm


Originally Posted by Gardyloo (Post 10017837)
Wikitravel is in error. All miles count, including the miles for surface segments.

Agreed. Treatment is identical for OW and *A.

In both cases single flight number mileage is used. So LHR-(BKK/SIN)-SYD without an en route stopover and booked as a single flight number uses mileage for LHR-SYD ignoring the transit. However book as 2 flight numbers or with a stopover and each flight's mileage is used.

Hans78 Jul 12, 2008 11:41 am

Ok, this is now very close: HEL-CDG-DFW-LAS-SFO-HNL-NAN-AKL-BNE-NRT-PVG-HEL.

26153 miles :mad: :D

@:-) Is JAL flight JL5199 AKL-NRT (operated by Air New Zealand allowed?

millionmiler Jul 12, 2008 1:40 pm


Originally Posted by Hans78 (Post 10023205)
@:-) Is JAL flight JL5199 AKL-NRT (operated by Air New Zealand allowed?


No.

Gardyloo Jul 12, 2008 3:00 pm


Originally Posted by Hans78 (Post 10023205)
Ok, this is now very close: HEL-CDG-DFW-LAS-SFO-HNL-NAN-AKL-BNE-NRT-PVG-HEL.

26153 miles :mad: :D

HEL-CDG-ORD-LAS-SFO-HNL-NAN-AKL-BNE-NRT-PVG-HEL, 25729 mi.
HEL-CDG-LHR-LAX-SFO-HNL-NAN-AKL-BNE-NRT-PVG-HEL, 25658 mi.

One other question - have you counted your allowed stopovers? Maximum of 5 for the whole trip, no more than 2 in any one region (continent.) Looks to me like you've got big trouble on that front. You might want to look seriously at an LLONE4 originating in the UK which is close to the same price as a GlobEx 26K mile trip originating in Finland. Fiji would have to go, but you'd have some extra segments to play around with in N. America, Australia or Asia, not to mention 2 stopovers within Europe.

Moomba Jul 12, 2008 3:00 pm

According to great circle mapper this should work for you.

HEL-BRU-ORD-DFW-LAS-SFO-HNL-NAN-AKL-BNE-NRT-PVG-HEL

Bukhara Jul 12, 2008 3:00 pm

uuuuuuuuuuuuu

Hans78 Jul 13, 2008 1:30 pm

Wow! Very good routings, now I just have to choose one. Problem solved! ^

I think I will go with Global Explorer ticket this time, because I don't have much time to complete this trip ...and I have to pay 4 tickets ;) 5 stopovers is good, because if there is more allowed, then I must use all. I don't want to waste any stopovers :)

Someone ever flied that HNL-NAN route? Any survival tips? I mean, red-eye, 7 hours, 737, economy ...I'd rather go to the dentist! But you get what you pay for :D

:-: Big thanks to all! Awesome! ^


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