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Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer
(Post 9534974)
TC 1, 2 & 3 are IATA areas. 1 is North and South America, 2 is Europe Africa and Middle East, 3 is Asia and South Pacific.
Look on page 10 of this 3Mbyte .PDF: ACCC DISCUSSION PAPER 3.18 The seven [:confused:] passenger conferences are:
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Originally Posted by checkerboard
(Post 9511365)
If I remember correctly, the old theoretical maximum was quite a bit higher than that:
2 = Europe-> SWP (via Asia) 4 = Free in SWP 2 = Additional Purchased in SWP 1 = SWP to Asia 4 = Free in Asia 2 = Additional Purchased in Asia 2 = Asia to South America (via North America) 4 = Free in South America 2 = Additional Purchased in South America 1 = South America to North America 6 = Free in North America 2 = Additional Purchased in North America 2 = North America to [certain countries] in Africa (via Europe) 4 = Free in Africa 2 = Additional Purchased in Africa 1 = Africa to Europe 4 = Free in Europe. That's already 45 sectors, not counting surface sectors, which were also included free at the time... I can't say I ever had a ticket this long myself (I think my longest was 28 flight sectors, on an MONE5 - back when RTW tickets had a respoectable booking class, even in economy), and with all the add-ons, it wouldn't have been cheap in any case... but nonethelss, the One World Explorer ticket has proved a wonderful, flexible product, which helped me see much of the world I wouldn't have otherwise, and which did more than anything else to build my loyalty to OneWorld, where the promise of status-benefits still cause me to pay slightly more (as we all do) to fly than I would if I were buying tickets just on price/schedule alone. In this sense, while perhaps a loss-leader, these old tickets can't have been a losing proposition... though now with only 16-sectors maximum and no free surface sectors, the 24-sector *A ticket (and the matching status *A carriers will offer) seems very enticing indeed. It's a pity, really, as I've enjoyed the OneWorld network expansion - but then again, *A is fairly expansive in its own right, and might be worth me giving a closer look. |
Originally Posted by Viajero
(Post 9535102)
No, it is actually better than that. What you have to do is purchase the ticket before June 1. The date of the first flight is irrelevant for the determination of the validity period of the rules. So, you could purchase the ticket in May 08, start your OWE in May 09 and have your 20th flight in May 2010.
A) the date of purchase B) the date of ticketing C) the date of the first flight D) the date of the first intercontinental flight |
So with regard to the rule requiring the entire journey to be completed within one year, when is day 1?
A) the date of purchase B) the date of ticketing C) the date of the first flight D) the date of the first intercontinental flight B. I am thinking of purchasing a 20 segment DONE04 before June 1, 2008 with first flight 2/2009. I had purchased 1 like this (8 or so months in advance of 1st flight) several years ago. |
So in theory one could book a LONE4 no later than 31 May 2008 (to take advantage of the 20 segments) with the first flight departing not later than 21 May 2009, then alter the first flight to, say 1 December 2009 (all dates fall into Australia's low season period for xONEx sales). Is this correct?
And is my reading of the OWE rules correct in that, for departures from Australia (amongst other regions), unlimited changes before departure are permitted, provided the origin, destination, connecting points and inventory remain the same? So in all that, is it fair to say that there is a significant advantage in planning a LONE4 (and other xONEx fares) prior to 31 May this year? |
Originally Posted by danger
(Post 9539905)
So in theory one could book a LONE4 no later than 31 May 2008 (to take advantage of the 20 segments) with the first flight departing not later than 21 May 2009, then alter the first flight to, say 1 December 2009 (all dates fall into Australia's low season period for xONEx sales). Is this correct?...
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Okay. Then what about booking a quick domestic sector to kick things off, say BNE-SYD on 21 May 2009, then not taking the next leg (eg. SYD-SIN) until 1 December 2009)?
And sorry, what are the complications you refer to? |
Originally Posted by danger
(Post 9540526)
Okay. Then what about booking a quick domestic sector to kick things off, say BNE-SYD on 21 May 2009, then not taking the next leg (eg. SYD-SIN) until 1 December 2009)?...
Edited to add: Even if that worked, however, and I concede that it could, there's the question of the validity of the ticket after first flight. The longer you take to restart your itinerary after that first quick flight the shorter the time you will have to complete the trip. |
Originally Posted by danger
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And is my reading of the OWE rules correct in that, for departures from Australia (amongst other regions), unlimited changes before departure are permitted, provided the origin, destination, connecting points and inventory remain the same? ... Code:
16. VOLUNTARY CHANGES/REROUTING/PENALTIES |
Okay. So correct me if I've misunderstood but we have a situation where, in order to make the most of the 20 segment rule, the xONEx:
1) can be booked no later than 31 May 2008 (or 27 May 2008 if taking advantage of the last day of the low season fares) 2) can have a date for the first international segment no later than 21 May 2009 (bookings available 355 days in advance) (or 17 May 2009 if taking advantage of the low season fares) 3) must be completed within 12 months of the date of the first flight, be that transcontinental or international 4) can be changed (re-routing, changed ports etc.) after the pre-1 June 2008 initial booking date (31 or 27 may 2008, in this example), without penalty, provided the journey hasn't commenced. Have I missed anything? (This assumes the origin is SWP.) |
2. ... 353 Days ... (at least with QF), maybe 354 days with BA.
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Apologies, I have a similar question.
Will be booking ex-CPT DONE5 with a likely departure ~May 14-18 2009. I was planning to use the AA RTW desk and book the 1st segment to depart in April and then shift everything out come June/July (assuming the 1-year restriction to April of 09 etc. would still remain). My understanding was based on this in the rules CHANGES TO THE FIRST INTERNATIONAL FLIGHT AND PRECEDING FLIGHTS ARE NOT PERMITTED LESS THAN 7 DAYS PRIOR TO THE DATE OF THE FIRST TICKETED FLIGHT. DATE/TIME/ONEWORLD CARRIER CHANGES ARE PERMITTED WITHOUT REISSUE PROVIDED ORIGIN/ DESTINATION/CONNECTING POINTS AND INVENTORY REMAIN THE SAME. Is this not correct? If I can't use AA b/c of their 330 day restriction, who's best to use to avoid high surcharges? Thanks! |
Originally Posted by jkirsch
(Post 9541911)
... CHANGES TO THE FIRST INTERNATIONAL FLIGHT AND PRECEDING FLIGHTS ARE NOT PERMITTED LESS THAN 7 DAYS PRIOR TO THE DATE OF THE FIRST TICKETED FLIGHT. DATE/TIME/ONEWORLD CARRIER CHANGES ARE PERMITTED WITHOUT REISSUE PROVIDED ORIGIN/ DESTINATION/CONNECTING POINTS AND INVENTORY REMAIN THE SAME. ...
See my earlier post for the changes before departure rules for TC2/Tc3. |
Originally Posted by serfty
(Post 9541930)
That rule only applies for xONEx's originating in TC1.
See my earlier post for the changes before departure rules for TC2/Tc3. |
The following is my interpretation of the rules, not a statement of truth.
My answer is that you can, but not if it means going beyond one year of date of original issue. |
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