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justforfun Feb 1, 2008 9:05 am

Colombo is back!
 
Was doing a dummy booking on expedia ex-CMB, and sure enough there it was. Someone with more advanced tools can tell us of the exact start date and frequency, but on Sept. 17 CX700 departs CMB at 1:45am. This is good news.

SNA_Flyer Feb 1, 2008 9:34 am

Looks like it starts back up on 31-Mar-08, via BKK some days and SIN the others. Interesting.

77W_12A Feb 1, 2008 12:05 pm

Glad to see it back. I know CMB does really well with cargo. Passenger wise, the three times that I've been on it, loads may have been around 40%. Front of the cabin, even lower.

Zeffer Feb 1, 2008 1:32 pm

This is good news for us fans of DONEx's... but it seems oneworld has removed sri lanka from its price list here.

Does anyone know how to find out the price of a DONE4 ex-CMB?

And do CX's 773s on that route have crummy old-style J class seats...?

TerryK Feb 1, 2008 2:13 pm


Originally Posted by justforfun (Post 9173641)
Was doing a dummy booking on expedia ex-CMB, and sure enough there it was. Someone with more advanced tools can tell us of the exact start date and frequency, but on Sept. 17 CX700 departs CMB at 1:45am. This is good news.

Wow! Great news! ^

Looks like it starts with the summer schedule, 31-Mar-08. Daily service via BKK/SIN as before. Business is back to normal in CMB. :cool:

CMB has always been served by regional 773s. :( It goes via BKK/SIN, so the flying time is only 3-4 hours.

justforfun Feb 1, 2008 2:26 pm

Did I just get really luck with award availability?
 
oops. meant to start a new thread.

SNA_Flyer Feb 1, 2008 2:28 pm


Originally Posted by TerryK (Post 9175481)
CMB has always been served by regional 773s. :( It goes via BKK/SIN, so the flying time is only 3-4 hours.

Probably because of their massive cargo capacity.

SNA_Flyer Feb 1, 2008 2:38 pm


Originally Posted by Zeffer (Post 9175237)
This is good news for us fans of DONEx's... but it seems oneworld has removed sri lanka from its price list here.

Does anyone know how to find out the price of a DONE4 ex-CMB?

And do CX's 773s on that route have crummy old-style J class seats...?

CX doesn't seem to be publishing a DONE4 fare yet, but strangely BA is. It's USD$5476.

SLF Feb 1, 2008 3:58 pm

BA fares (USD):

DONE 3/4/5/6: 4803/5476/6297/7171
AONE 3/4/5/6: 8197/9077/10235/11564

AJLondon Feb 1, 2008 4:08 pm


Originally Posted by SNA_Flyer (Post 9175640)
CX doesn't seem to be publishing a DONE4 fare yet, but strangely BA is. It's USD$5476.

Are there any published CX fares out of CMB currently?

rtwdone4 Feb 1, 2008 6:57 pm

Is CMB the cheapest destination to start a DONE4 now? The prices ex NRT are not that attractive anymore.

satprof Feb 2, 2008 12:42 am


Originally Posted by rtwdone4 (Post 9176785)
Is CMB the cheapest destination to start a DONE4 now? The prices ex NRT are not that attractive anymore.


Originally Posted by SLF (Post 9176017)
BA fares (USD):

DONE 3/4/5/6: 4803/5476/6297/7171
AONE 3/4/5/6: 8197/9077/10235/11564

It would appear so, but not by much. Current equivalent for MRU is:

DONE4/5/6: US$5581/6308/7348, although ticketing costs ex-MRU might raise the true cost somewhat. (No xONE3 ex-MRU, of course.)

MRU is still the AONE* leader by far:

AONE4/5/6: US$6516/7452/8492

(MUR-USD = 0.03466)

Cheetah_SA Feb 2, 2008 3:21 am


Originally Posted by satprof (Post 9177779)
It would appear so, but not by much. Current equivalent for MRU is:

DONE4/5/6: US$5581/6308/7348, although ticketing costs ex-MRU might raise the true cost somewhat. (No xONE3 ex-MRU, of course.)

MRU is still the AONE* leader by far:

AONE4/5/6: US$6516/7452/8492

(MUR-USD = 0.03466)

Actually, following the recent weakness of the ZAR, South Africa beats MRU on DONE* fares and it's within a whisker for AONE4 (after allowing for the issuing fee in MRU).

Zeffer Feb 2, 2008 10:16 am


Originally Posted by Cheetah_SA (Post 9178272)
Actually, following the recent weakness of the ZAR, South Africa beats MRU on DONE* fares and it's within a whisker for AONE4 (after allowing for the issuing fee in MRU).

My calculations put an AONE4 from south africa at $8,900ish -- well over $2k more than from MRU.

I know this has been pored over before but I can't find it in a search (coz we still can't search for three-letter terms :mad:)... how much is the MRU issuing fee?

P.S. One more question: does anyone know what happens if we issue an xONEx ex-CMB and then CX pulls out again? If you experienced this last time, lemme know -- did they offer a refund, or could you reroute to a different asian origin for the same price...?

alemdohorizonte Feb 2, 2008 11:56 am


Originally Posted by Zeffer (Post 9179667)
how much is the MRU issuing fee?

P.S. One more question: does anyone know what happens if we issue an xONEx ex-CMB and then CX pulls out again? If you experienced this last time, lemme know -- did they offer a refund, or could you reroute to a different asian origin for the same price...?

the ba mru surcharge is us$300 converted to mru rupees which you sign for on a separate charge.

i had hkg-bkk-cmb segments remaining on cx in biz class last time they pulled out of cmb. cx was exceptionally accomodating and apologetic. they offered me my choice of carriers and routings and dates--basically whatever i wanted.

Cheetah_SA Feb 3, 2008 5:05 am


Originally Posted by Zeffer (Post 9179667)
My calculations put an AONE4 from south africa at $8,900ish

That would be the AONE5 price. The AONE4 price is ZAR51990 or roughly USD7000.

Zeffer Feb 3, 2008 4:36 pm


Originally Posted by Cheetah_SA (Post 9183006)
That would be the AONE5 price. The AONE4 price is ZAR51990 or roughly USD7000.

Ah yes, my mistake. For african departures I instinctively look at xONE5s coz it adds a continent to my itinerary. I'm jealous though -- that south african AONE4 fare is excellent.

rtwdone4 Feb 4, 2008 1:54 pm

Actually is it possible to do an AONE4 from JNB?

I guess you can do JNB-HKG-JFK-LHR-JNB?? (However JNB-HKG in F Class will be seasonal)?

Cheetah_SA Feb 5, 2008 7:11 am


Originally Posted by rtwdone4 (Post 9189785)
Actually is it possible to do an AONE4 from JNB?

I guess you can do JNB-HKG-JFK-LHR-JNB?? (However JNB-HKG in F Class will be seasonal)?

That's correct. You could also do JNB-SYD-JFK-LHR-JNB with year-round F on all routes.

rtwdone4 Feb 5, 2008 8:10 am


Originally Posted by Cheetah_SA (Post 9194244)
That's correct. You could also do JNB-SYD-JFK-LHR-JNB with year-round F on all routes.

I thought JNB-SYD is not 3 Class most of the time on QF.

Cheetah_SA Feb 6, 2008 6:00 am


Originally Posted by rtwdone4 (Post 9194603)
I thought JNB-SYD is not 3 Class most of the time on QF.

It operates 5 days a week and 4 of the 5 days have F.

Guy Betsy Feb 6, 2008 9:15 am

As this thread seems to be mostly on OW issues, I'm moving this to the OW forum.

Thanks

Guy Betsy
Cathay Pacific Asiamiles forum moderator

UncleDude Feb 16, 2008 11:56 am

CMB Back online with CX
 
http://www.cathaypacific.com/cpa/en_...0010d21c39____

Anyway we can get Oneworld.com to load fares?

Guy Betsy Feb 17, 2008 12:39 am


Originally Posted by TerryK (Post 9175481)
Wow! Great news! ^

Looks like it starts with the summer schedule, 31-Mar-08. Daily service via BKK/SIN as before. Business is back to normal in CMB. :cool:

CMB has always been served by regional 773s. :( It goes via BKK/SIN, so the flying time is only 3-4 hours.

Bear in mind, CX flights ex-CMB currently are not e-ticketable. So any issue will end up being paper.. which means you only have two options. Be in CMB in person before your ticket is issued, or issue it in Canada.

SanDiego1K Feb 17, 2008 1:15 am

When will CX ex-CMB become e-ticketable? EK and UL have been for some time now, over a year I think. I thought that all carriers were to be by now.

holtju2 Feb 18, 2008 9:56 am


Originally Posted by Guy Betsy (Post 9264624)
Bear in mind, CX flights ex-CMB currently are not e-ticketable. So any issue will end up being paper.. which means you only have two options. Be in CMB in person before your ticket is issued, or issue it in Canada.

That is quite interesting because SQ does do etix @ CMB.

TerryK Feb 18, 2008 10:59 am


Originally Posted by holtju2 (Post 9270539)
That is quite interesting because SQ does do etix @ CMB.

It depends on ground handling agent. UL handles CX check in in CMB who may not have the capability to access etickets on CX. SQ used to use UL for check in in CMB, but switched to self-handling when it went with etickets.

justforfun Feb 18, 2008 9:26 pm

I'm loving the etix on SQ ex-CMB. Makes everything so much easier. And I believe that you can now check-in online, which makes CMB turnarounds a piece of cake.

DownUnderFlyer May 25, 2008 7:40 am

A little update regarding CMB. I am on my way to Colombo at the moment and we are 42 pax on the aircraft (773). I am not sure whether this is a typical load but with oil at $135 a barrel you can only afford to do this for so long.

Swanhunter May 25, 2008 8:14 am

However Sri Lanka generates loads of cargo (huge textile manufacturing centre for US retailers, plus fruit too) which might well help overall yields.

TerryK May 25, 2008 11:15 am


Originally Posted by DownUnderFlyer (Post 9775468)
A little update regarding CMB. I am on my way to Colombo at the moment and we are 42 pax on the aircraft (773). I am not sure whether this is a typical load but with oil at $135 a barrel you can only afford to do this for so long.

CMB flights are mostly for cargo. Airlines can make money with an empty cabin but a full cargo load. In fact, you can only have limited cabin load with a full cargo load. The flight will continue as long as there is healthy cargo load. The same applies to SQ CMB flights.@:-)

TerryK May 25, 2008 11:20 am


Originally Posted by Swanhunter (Post 9775538)
However Sri Lanka generates loads of cargo (huge textile manufacturing centre for US retailers, plus fruit too) which might well help overall yields.

Singapore chili crabs are mostly from Sri Lanka.:p

DownUnderFlyer May 26, 2008 7:32 am


Originally Posted by TerryK (Post 9776020)
CMB flights are mostly for cargo. Airlines can make money with an empty cabin but a full cargo load. In fact, you can only have limited cabin load with a full cargo load. The flight will continue as long as there is healthy cargo load. The same applies to SQ CMB flights.@:-)

Thanks for the info! @:-) This explains a lot. Didn't think about the cargo component. And loading in CMB actually took quite a while.
CMB is also the first airport I have seen where the duty free shops stock washing machines.

Cheetah_SA May 26, 2008 9:41 am


Originally Posted by DownUnderFlyer (Post 9778703)
CMB is also the first airport I have seen where the duty free shops stock washing machines.

Gives a whole new relevance to the term "everything bar the kitchen sink" when talking about carry-on luggage!

Swanhunter May 26, 2008 12:10 pm


Originally Posted by DownUnderFlyer (Post 9778703)
. CMB is also the first airport I have seen where the duty free shops stock washing machines.

Aimed at the guest worker returning home from the Gulf market, rather than mileage runners. ;)

Kiwi Flyer May 26, 2008 2:16 pm


Originally Posted by DownUnderFlyer (Post 9778703)
CMB is also the first airport I have seen where the duty free shops stock washing machines.

Is that on departure also or just arrival? I can imagine the look you'd get arriving at Australia lugging a washing machine :D

zoombee May 26, 2008 3:04 pm


Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer (Post 9780067)
Is that on departure also or just arrival? I can imagine the look you'd get arriving at Australia lugging a washing machine :D

I presume it's only on arrival. Have seen this many times in developing countries with very high taxes - though less so in the last few years.

TerryK May 26, 2008 3:08 pm


Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer (Post 9780067)
Is that on departure also or just arrival? I can imagine the look you'd get arriving at Australia lugging a washing machine :D

It is for arrival only. :p Arrival and departure are segregated and have different duty-free stores. Me guess not too much demand for washing machines prior to departure from CMB. :D:p

DownUnderFlyer May 27, 2008 3:25 pm

Yeah, I was very tempted to buy a washing machine upon arrival, then round to the departure area with it and see whether I can check it in. But then I got distracted b(u)y something else.

On a serious note, I found CMB to be a very organized and efficient airport. Positively surprised.

holtju2 May 27, 2008 3:36 pm


Originally Posted by DownUnderFlyer (Post 9785155)
But then I got detracted by something else.

Maybe by the national anthem that plays every 30 minutes or so during which Sri Lankas stop working/moving to pay tribute to it. :D


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