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Gardyloo May 17, 2007 5:50 pm


Originally Posted by JohnAx (Post 7755694)
Wow! EF is showing AONE4 at USD6109, about $500 dollars more than when I last looked; how on earth did they come up with $2100 additional charges?

(The fares have gotten crazy, assuming EF is accurate ex-JFK is just $600 more than ex-CAI, and BKK is actually more expensive. Some fancy new pricing algorithm they've come up with.

Yep, looks like MRU has just gone up around 5% since I last looked, both A and D.

I guess that explains why my wife's pending DONE4 hasn't come back from rates in a week. Color me cheesed off.

headinclouds May 17, 2007 6:26 pm


Originally Posted by JohnAx (Post 7755694)
Wow! EF is showing AONE4 at USD6109, about $500 dollars more than when I last looked; how on earth did they come up with $2100 additional charges?

(The fares have gotten crazy, assuming EF is accurate ex-JFK is just $600 more than ex-CAI, and BKK is actually more expensive. Some fancy new pricing algorithm they've come up with.

First, the US $ has lost about 8% of its value compared to the MRU rupee(?). 2nd, there is now a $300 service fee. But that only accounts for 1/3 of the total price. Guess the BA/QF fuel fines are kicking in big time...

JohnAx May 17, 2007 6:40 pm


Originally Posted by headinclouds (Post 7755968)
First, the US $ has lost about 8% of its value compared to the MRU rupee(?). 2nd, there is now a $300 service fee. But that only accounts for 1/3 of the total price. Guess the BA/QF fuel fines are kicking in big time...

Since EF quotes prices in dollars, the $6109 is the starting point - don't be adding another 8% on top of that. Somehow there's $2100 in fees and surcharges. $1800, after the $300 negative gift from IBL. That's a *lot* of fuel surcharges and UK departures. Maybe they're charging for first-class meals, at restaurant prices. Good champagne at $16 a glass adds up.

ReelChief May 17, 2007 6:42 pm

I'm puzzled by this discussion. It is hard for me to tell about possible increases from EF because EF does not provide fares in MRU currency. From EF, as JohnAx states, I get an AONE4 fare of $6109 which seems to convert back to about MUR188000 which according to my records, has been the ex-MRU fare since at least last summer. Does anyone have any specific information about the fares in MUR?

As a separate point, Azurflyer's total cost of $8200 for an AONE4 is a lot higher than anything I've heard of before. I wonder if some mistake has been made in calculating extra charges. That happened to me last summer. After asking for an accounting of the initial quotation of over $2000 in extra charges, the new charges came back under $800.

JohnAx May 17, 2007 7:06 pm


Originally Posted by ReelChief (Post 7756035)
I'm puzzled by this discussion. It is hard for me to tell about possible increases from EF because EF does not provide fares in MRU currency. From EF, as JohnAx states, I get an AONE4 fare of $6109 which seems to convert back to about MUR188000 which according to my records, has been the ex-MRU fare since at least last summer. Does anyone have any specific information about the fares in MUR?

As a separate point, Azurflyer's total cost of $8200 for an AONE4 is a lot higher than anything I've heard of before. I wonder if some mistake has been made in calculating extra charges. That happened to me last summer. After asking for an accounting of the initial quotation of over $2000 in extra charges, the new charges came back under $800.

Your "ask for accounting" suggestion is excellent advice; probably ought to PM Azurflyer in case he's not an avid thread-follower.

You're probably right that the MRU fare hasn't increased, since you have actual records. I was just going by memory - over the past few months I've glanced at the fare on EF periodically, in assessing personal travel options, and thought that AONE4 had been something around USD5689 until a week or two ago (when I last looked). I may have been looking at a different fare.

Gardyloo May 17, 2007 10:21 pm

False alarm. I just looked it up on Sabre and no changes in MUR-denominated fares. Obviously currency conversion is the culprit.

JohnAx May 17, 2007 10:50 pm

The dollar probably hasn't weakened against MUR - a year ago (5/31/06) the rate was 0.032310, and at the moment it's 0.322995, not even a tenth of a percent different. At that rate, MUR188000 = USD6072. Rates are from xe.com. Since it's not particularly likely that the dollar was significantly stronger in past weeks, I simply must have been dreaming about the $5600 price I thought I remembered. Nothing is happening in Mauritius, price wise, sorry for the alarm.

Hope the $8200 price tag gets straightened out, though.

Viajero May 18, 2007 4:09 am


Originally Posted by Gardyloo (Post 7755606)
JL 719 (744) carries F.

That's the reason why I ask what class for that leg. OP didn't include NRT-SIN in the list of J segments, so maybe JL released an A seat? (yeah, I know, wishful thinking).

headinclouds May 18, 2007 10:02 am


Originally Posted by JohnAx (Post 7757042)
The dollar probably hasn't weakened against MUR - a year ago (5/31/06) the rate was 0.032310, and at the moment it's 0.322995, not even a tenth of a percent different. At that rate, MUR188000 = USD6072. Rates are from xe.com. Since it's not particularly likely that the dollar was significantly stronger in past weeks, I simply must have been dreaming about the $5600 price I thought I remembered. Nothing is happening in Mauritius, price wise, sorry for the alarm.

That is true, however there was a period just last Jan/Feb where the US $ was almost 33MRU/1$. That is equivalent to about $5600. At the current rates of $6100, that is approximately 8% difference in price. Should have bought back in Feb as it was almost $1,000 cheaper.

BlackBird May 19, 2007 1:26 pm

Are the taxes and fuel surcharges always the same regardless the travel class on xONE if you pick the same route?

Kiwi Flyer May 19, 2007 1:35 pm

No (although generally true). Some places have higher taxes in business/first than in economy. UK being a good example. Also some countries charge a luxury tax for business/first class tickets originating there (eg India).

Viajero May 19, 2007 1:42 pm

...and they also vary from airline to airline, even on the same route and class.

Kiwi Flyer May 19, 2007 1:44 pm


Originally Posted by Viajero (Post 7764442)
...and they also vary from airline to airline, even on the same route and class.

very good point about fuel surcharges (plus also varies by ticketing airline ;) )

Viajero May 19, 2007 1:47 pm


Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer (Post 7764446)
...plus also varies by ticketing airline ;) )

Indeed, perhaps the most important point of all.

Azurflyer May 21, 2007 5:43 pm

BA MRU quoted (on May 16th) the base price of the AONE4 as MUR 215000
($6718) plus MUR 45040 ($1407) in taxes plus MUR 9580 ($300) service fee. Total cost MUR 269620 ($8425).

Yes, NRT-SIN is booked as A with JL, though given the comments here I might be safer booking NRT-HKG-SIN with CX instead ? Shame to do that though, because the only CX A HKG-SIN is a long flight via BKK.

Apart from the MRU-LHR, the itinerary is open, so I'm going to ask for them to recalculate based on MRU-(LHR)-NCE, NCE-(LHR)-YVR, JFK-(SYD)-AKL, AKL-(SYD)-HKG, and SIN-(HKG)-JNB. I'll let you know what that does to reduce the taxes.

ReelChief May 21, 2007 6:27 pm

It is difficult making comparisons about extra charges of tickets purchased at different times and with different itineraries. My AONE5 ex-MRU in Sep 06 had extra charges of MUR29,000 and, of course, did not have the new $300service charge. But the general principle still holds, try to get a breakdown of the extra costs-- I was initially being charged $800 for a stop over at LIM!!!

As an added point, when I had the ticket rewritten 3 days ago, the AA tariff people insisted that they had to include a $60 surcharge on a BA flight from last October- claiming that BA had neglected to include it-- as unlikely as that sounds. I paid it just to get on with the ticket reissue.

JohnAx May 21, 2007 9:00 pm


Originally Posted by Azurflyer (Post 7774741)
BA MRU quoted (on May 16th) the base price of the AONE4 as MUR 215000
($6718) plus MUR 45040 ($1407) in taxes plus MUR 9580 ($300) service fee. Total cost MUR 269620 ($8425).

Yes, NRT-SIN is booked as A with JL, though given the comments here I might be safer booking NRT-HKG-SIN with CX instead ? Shame to do that though, because the only CX A HKG-SIN is a long flight via BKK.

Apart from the MRU-LHR, the itinerary is open, so I'm going to ask for them to recalculate based on MRU-(LHR)-NCE, NCE-(LHR)-YVR, JFK-(SYD)-AKL, AKL-(SYD)-HKG, and SIN-(HKG)-JNB. I'll let you know what that does to reduce the taxes.

Don't forget that, if you believe another airline will do a better job of adding up the beans, you can always book MRU-LHR-LAX-HKG-JNB (or something else that simple) and after flying to LHR, re-issuing for the modest investment of $125. About the only adders to the basic fare (besides their $300 gift to themselves) would be 4 fuel surcharges (about $200) and the LHR departure tax, itself about $200.

In any case, you should insist that they list individually each element that they're adding to the basic fare. Besides solving the puzzle of their surely incorrect total, it'll help keep AA from back-charging you $60 for a BA segment. And chances are good that you'll find that among other errors they've charged you the full GBP80 for each of your departures from London - due for premium-cabin long-hauls but much less for EU destinations, and not applicable to transits.

Viajero May 22, 2007 3:18 am


Originally Posted by Azurflyer (Post 7774741)
...Yes, NRT-SIN is booked as A with JL..

Good news!, it is the firt report I see about this, all the others have met with a big A0 from JL, any time, any date.

Azurflyer May 22, 2007 3:25 am

Apologies, I can't count to 5
 
Clearly forgot that in fact my ticket covers Africa, Europe, NA, SWP and Asia ie. AONE5 which explains why the base price is MUR215000. Am waiting for a breakdown on the cost of the taxes...


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