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lpeterman Apr 14, 2007 3:27 pm

The furthest OneWorld destination from OZ is?
 
I'm planning our (wife and I) annual Aone4 and want to maximize miles when possible, but still visit somewhere nice, and perhaps warm.

Being able to fly in first is another plus.

So my question is, where can we go (within the relm of the continent of course) from SYD, MEL, or perhaps PER and still return to the starting point or any of the three ports?

I'm already including NZ and back for two segments, so have two more to use.

Would appreciate any comments.

Thanks

Viajero Apr 14, 2007 3:43 pm

The oneworld itineray validator (see the OWE planner section) has a nifty feature that lets you check for yourself just what you want.

JohnAx Apr 14, 2007 4:25 pm


Originally Posted by lpeterman (Post 7582216)
I'm planning our (wife and I) annual Aone4 and want to maximize miles when possible, but still visit somewhere nice, and perhaps warm.

Being able to fly in first is another plus.

So my question is, where can we go (within the relm of the continent of course) from SYD, MEL, or perhaps PER and still return to the starting point or any of the three ports?

I'm already including NZ and back for two segments, so have two more to use.

Would appreciate any comments.

Thanks

If you're asking how to get the most mileage out of your four included SWP segments and have used two of them for OZ-NZ-OZ, I think the answer is "fly SYD-PER-CBR". CBR isn't much of an international port (there may be service to NZ) but the drive back to SYD is almost pleasant. You can also fly SYD-PER-ADL and continue from there to AKL if you're allowed to use JetConnect service.

Afaik Qantas does not offer A service domestically. LAN flies 3-class AKL-SYD, but others here have said their service on the route isn't worth the trouble. If you choose to go for it, don't be surprised if your ticketing carrier has trouble getting seats from LAN - you may have to call LAN directly yourself and convince the agent that they actually have rights on the segment.

StSebastian Apr 18, 2007 4:40 pm

I thought LAN was down to 2 class systemwide, but I just went to look it up and saw they still have it on this route and the MAD route. I've heard such nice things about LAN F that maybe I'll have to find a way to take advantage of that routing to see what it's like.

http://www.lan.com/info_viajes/clase...mera_a340.html

JohnAx Apr 18, 2007 7:12 pm


Originally Posted by StSebastian (Post 7603897)
I thought LAN was down to 2 class systemwide, but I just went to look it up and saw they still have it on this route and the MAD route. I've heard such nice things about LAN F that maybe I'll have to find a way to take advantage of that routing to see what it's like.

http://www.lan.com/info_viajes/clase...mera_a340.html

Last year the FT community convinced me that the AKL-SYD leg was no better in first than QF's in biz, so I gave up my hard-won A-class seat on LAN (actually, just half an hour on the phone with LAN res, trying to convince the agent that despite what the computer was telling her, LAN *did* fly that segment) and will never know. LAN's departure was rudely early, so that helped the choice.

Not to disparage the SCL-AKL segment - it was said that leg is well done - just a comment in case anyone else wants to grab a convenient taste of LA first-class service.

simongr Apr 18, 2007 8:03 pm


Originally Posted by lpeterman (Post 7582216)
I'm planning our (wife and I) annual Aone4 and want to maximize miles when possible, but still visit somewhere nice, and perhaps warm.

Would appreciate any comments.

Thanks

What time of year are you planning to travel?

I guess the challenge is trying to squeeze something resembling a transcon out of two flights and given only one transcon is allowed that makes it a little tough.

What are your current segments within SWP and where are you flying in from and where do you want to fly out of to restart the trip?

For interest and warmth I would probably try some combination involving one of Cairns, Broome or Darwin - all up in the tropics.

lpeterman Apr 23, 2007 7:04 pm


Originally Posted by simongr (Post 7604780)
What time of year are you planning to travel?

I guess the challenge is trying to squeeze something resembling a transcon out of two flights and given only one transcon is allowed that makes it a little tough.

What are your current segments within SWP and where are you flying in from and where do you want to fly out of to restart the trip?

For interest and warmth I would probably try some combination involving one of Cairns, Broome or Darwin - all up in the tropics.


First - let me thank all whom responded.

Now to answer the questions from Simongr..
We are/will travel this June. Will arrive from HKG. Want to do two segiments in OZ and then MEL/SYD to NZ and return, and then on to HKG again.

We have been to Cairns. Want to fly back to HKG from NZ via SYD in order to use CX F/A.

I thought SYD-PER-SYD-AKL would be allowed (without stopover in SYD), but RTW desk said NO! Jet Connect is not an option with AONE4.

Thanks,

Lloyd

christep Apr 23, 2007 7:13 pm

It's not clear to me how you expect to go -HKG-<aus/NZ>-HKG on an AONE4. That would not be part of any valid routing that I can think of (except using the QF service to transit through HK to or from LHR).

lpeterman Apr 23, 2007 7:22 pm


Originally Posted by christep (Post 7629614)
It's not clear to me how you expect to go -HKG-<aus/NZ>-HKG on an AONE4. That would not be part of any valid routing that I can think of (except using the QF service to transit through HK to or from LHR).

No stop over in HKG.

Actual routing is DXB/LHR/HKG/SYD. And yes, not QF, but CX.

number_6 Apr 23, 2007 7:56 pm

You either need to use a surface segment (ie. purchase a separate ticket), or go HKG-ADL-PER-SYD-AKL-SYD-HKG. I think CX has F service to ADL (at least on some days if not all, dimly remember the ADL flight also serving MEL).

Otherwise the OWE rules prohibit 2 transcons, so you would have to use 3 segments, and then wind up doing SYD-AKL-HKG (which only has J service now, used to have F but with no F pax -- very nice flights these were, too).

Kiwi Flyer Apr 23, 2007 9:43 pm


Originally Posted by number_6 (Post 7629802)
I think CX has F service to ADL (at least on some days if not all, dimly remember the ADL flight also serving MEL).

Yup. CX does a triangle route on certain days HKG-ADL-MEL-HKG. Interestingly, unlike SQ which uses same flight number for the whole triangle, CX has 2 different flight numbers. Hence ADL-MEL is called as 2 different CX flight numbers :)

simongr Apr 25, 2007 8:06 pm


Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer (Post 7630207)
Yup. CX does a triangle route on certain days HKG-ADL-MEL-HKG. Interestingly, unlike SQ which uses same flight number for the whole triangle, CX has 2 different flight numbers. Hence ADL-MEL is called as 2 different CX flight numbers :)

Is it possible to book that ADL-MEL flight without being part of the connecting int'l flight? Might be nice to book that as part of the add ons to the end of a DONE4.

number_6 Apr 25, 2007 8:35 pm


Originally Posted by simongr (Post 7641635)
Is it possible to book that ADL-MEL flight without being part of the connecting int'l flight? Might be nice to book that as part of the add ons to the end of a DONE4.

Only if you also do HKG at the same time -- CX cannot cabotage in Australia, the Open Skies treaty isn't that open yet. So in your example you'd have to go ADL-MEL-HKG.

Kiwi Flyer Apr 25, 2007 10:20 pm


Originally Posted by number_6 (Post 7641798)
Only if you also do HKG at the same time -- CX cannot cabotage in Australia, the Open Skies treaty isn't that open yet. So in your example you'd have to go ADL-MEL-HKG.

I think this is right. I'd doubt CX would let you have different flight numbers for ADL-MEL and MEL-HKG (or HKG-ADL and ADL-MEL) - the point of dual flight numbers on ADL-MEL is to avoid this.


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