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Bobie Nov 23, 2006 2:29 am

My current AONE6 to be analysed
 
Thanks again for your advice, what options do you have for your first flight out of MRU? I was hoping to pick my old ticket up in Cape Town, Jo'burg or HKK for the last few stops (BKK and BOM) and surface the new one to India after initial flight.

As for your comments on AONE5 and AONE6 I don't follow the reasoning that they are not good value, especially the AONE5 as you don't have the problem of 20 flights max. For example ex MRU ex taxes prices from expertflyer last night are
AONE4 = 1429USD per continent total 5717
AONE5 = 1306USD per continent total 6538
AONE6 = 1241USD per continent total 7450

Do you remember the threads discussing this?

I feel I have great value out of my AONE6 as I have used it for the larger routes and purchased about 12 little add ons for short routes or where there was business class only and used my miles up by leaving the ticket somewhere close to the uk and doing a return on air miles to catch up on a bit of business!

I would be interested on people's views on my current ticket so I don't make the same mistakes again -


Purchased in DEL off guy with handwritten ticket CX
DEL-HKK
HKK-MEL
MEL-HOB (purchase)
HOB_MEL (purchase)
MEL- PER (re-issue in PER to QF ticket - nightmare)
PER-BME
BME-Alice
Alice-AYS (purchase as only economy)
AYS-SYD (air miles partner who doesn't know he is a FF!)
SYD-Cairns (QF staff let me fly to Cairns without a re-issue on ticket/sticker)
Cairns-SYD (Nightmare in office again as wouldn't re-issue inc. CX NYC-YVR so again got on plane with a sticker ammending ticket that still read AYS-SYD for final coupon in OZ hence saved another re-issue fee)
SYD-NYC (1 coupon with QF, still refuse re-issue with CX flight)
NYC-VYR (CX after many an argument at AA office and then re-issued me with an e-ticket an additional continent and 2 extra flights as they didn't count properly off the oldCX ticket issued in DEL!)
VYR-LON (air miles Buiness)
LON-VYR (air miles business and upgraded to 1K)
VYR-DFW
DFW-MIA
MIA-SAN (santiago)
SAN-Bariloche (purchase)
Bariloche- BUE (purchase)
BUE-SAO
SAO-FLN (purchase)
FLN-SAO (purchase)
SAO-LON
LON-DXB (As one of the only 1st routes in Europe)
DXB-LON
LON-CPE (here at the moment)
Rest of ticket reads-
CPE-JNB
JNB-HKG
HkG-BKK
BKK-BOM

With new ticket I want to get to SLC then Costa Rica then VYR then will use air miles to get to LON and pick ticket up again in N. America to head on to South America (as I can't do Africa-N.America-Europe-S. America -Oz-Africa can I?)

Thanks again and look forward to the masters of travel giving me some tips having analysed my very messy ticket! The one thing I have learnt is that just because you get a not possible on your first attempt with an airline you just hang up and try again, perseverence is required...

Bobie



Originally Posted by ReelChief
Here are some responses to a few of your questions.
1) For some time (not just July) you had to purchase your ticket in the country of origin (if that is what you are referring to). Purchasing in MRU is easy to do. Starting there is less easy because they seem to have difficulty finding A inventory on MRU-LHR (even when it shows on EF).
2) MRU is MUCH cheaper than any other origin for AONEs. I think the two closest are So. Africa and Qatar and they are at least US$2500 more for AONE4s. MRU is also the best for DONEs but the difference for DONEs is much less- eg. less than US$1000 difference for a DONE4 from MRU versus JNB. And a DONE3 from CMB is slightly less than a DONE4 from MRU—this is relevant in that a 3 continent RTW can be done from CMB but not MRU. Japan and Sweden are also places to consider for DONEs.
3) A question you don’t ask but is prompted by your reference to your AONE6. As has been discussed here, a six continent trip seems very inefficient—and even a five continent trip might be so considered.


Viajero Nov 23, 2006 2:46 am


Originally Posted by Bobie
...as I can't do Africa-N.America-Europe-S. America -Oz-Africa can I?...

No.

Bobie Nov 23, 2006 2:55 am

New AONE5 route ex MRU
 

Originally Posted by Viajero
No.

OK so
leaving from MRU what choices do I have?
I would like to do 1 flight back to JNB then surface to the end of my existing ticket in BKK or BOM and pick up the second ticket again. Is this possible?

Viajero Nov 23, 2006 3:06 am


Originally Posted by Bobie
...I would like to do 1 flight back to JNB then surface to the end of my existing ticket in BKK or BOM and pick up the second ticket again. Is this possible?

I understand that yes, it is possible, but be prepared for an initial claim that transoceanic surface is not allowed (which IMO does not apply here).

Bobie Nov 23, 2006 3:58 am


Originally Posted by Viajero
I understand that yes, it is possible, but be prepared for an initial claim that transoceanic surface is not allowed (which IMO does not apply here).

OK so I've just spoken with BA and QF and the only routing out of MRU is either CPT or JNB via LHR or CHI on AA.

Can this LHR only be a transit and not included as the Europe continent as will be gling to Europe later on the ticket?
Can you bok a very long transit, clear customs (I am British) go to town for a few hours and then go back through passport contol to get the LHR CPT leg?

Viajero Nov 23, 2006 4:27 am


Originally Posted by Bobie
OK so I've just spoken with BA and QF and the only routing out of MRU is either CPT or JNB via LHR or CHI on AA...

I'm sorry but the above makes no sense at all. I just have no idea what BA/QF are talking about.

SanDiego1K Nov 23, 2006 7:19 am


Originally Posted by Bobie
As for your comments on AONE5 and AONE6 I don't follow the reasoning that they are not good value, especially the AONE5 as you don't have the problem of 20 flights max.

I don't understand this remark. All xONEx's are capped at 20 segments.

ReelChief Nov 23, 2006 9:51 am

The reasoning about segment cost effectiveness is as follows:
1) You are permitted a maximum of 20 segments on any ONE ticket.
2) With a 3 continent ticket you have only 17 segments (3-IC, 4-EU, 6-NA, 4-AS). Without the 20 segment max, a 4 continent ticket would have 22 segments, a 5 continent ticket would have 27 segments, while a 6 continent ticket would have 32 segments. Thus with the 20 segment maximum, in a sense you are paying for, but unable to use, 2, 7 and 12 segments respectively.
3) Using the current AONE prices, ex-DEL ($8890, $10080, $11592, $13331), then the price per allowed segment for the AONE3 is $523, for the AONE4 is $504, for the AONE5 is $580, and for the AONE6 is $667. Thus the AONE4 is the most cost effective in terms of cost per allowable segment.
4) It is true that with an AONE5 and an AONE6 you get an extra intercontinental segment on each (and it may even be stretched a little further with creative routing) along with more flexibility of continents to which you can travel. So your average segment length might be a little longer and the cost per mile traveled might be narrowed somewhat. Because this difference depends on actual routing, one can’t say in general what these figures would be. For this reason, an AONE6 is not obviously a bad deal, but it does take some analysis to make sure these advantages outweigh “throwing away” the 12 segments that you can’t fly.


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