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adampb Oct 21, 2006 10:22 pm

RTW without USA?
 
Is there a way to AONE5 from Asia (BKK) to Canada (Toronto [YYZ] essential, Vancouver [YVR] and Calgary [YYC] would be nice), then Europe, Africa, Australia, and back to Asia? Don't want to deal with Anchorage transit problems, and want to travel First (want the sleeper seat comfort), not Business (otherwise can suffer AC on Star Alliance). My wife and baby have been denied visas by the US government in its infinite wisdom - TG, another terrorist threat averted!

alect Oct 21, 2006 10:32 pm


Originally Posted by adampb
Is there a way to AONE5 from Asia (BKK) to Canada (Toronto [YYZ] essential, Vancouver [YVR] and Calgary [YYC] would be nice), then Europe, Africa, Australia, and back to Asia? Don't want to deal with Anchorage transit problems, and want to travel First (want the sleeper seat comfort), not Business (otherwise can suffer AC on Star Alliance). My wife and baby have been denied visas by the US government in its infinite wisdom - TG, another terrorist threat averted!

BKK-HKG-YVR-LHR-JNB-SYD-HKG-BKK

number_6 Oct 22, 2006 12:43 am

Only HKG-YVR has F service, HKG-YYZ is 2-class (J/Y and no F). I think you can take the HKG-YYZ flight which has a tech stop in ANC without having a US visa, but I'm not certain of this (as it does not affect me or anyone that I know)....CX did reroute HKG-YVR-YYZ for about 6 months, before resuming the HKG-ANC-YYZ routing. I think pax are not allowed to deplane and it is not considered to be a transit stop (so not covered by the suspended Transit Without Visa program). You would have to check with CX about this. There is no way on OWE to travel between cities in Canada without transiting the US, so you can go to only one Canadian city on the OWE ticket (I would pick YVR).

Guy Betsy Oct 23, 2006 4:25 am

Fly HKG-YVR as only that route has F class on CX. Within Canada either buy tickets on AC, Westjet or other charter carriers.. or take bus, train or drive through.

You may fly from YVR, YYC, YYZ or YUL to LHR on BA...all of which have F class.

Yes.. there are many people who'd go out of their way to avoid USA!

capblake Oct 30, 2006 1:54 pm

not even transit
 
i have been looking for a good rtw but i havent been able to cause i cant even do transit on the usa so i will look into the ones going tru canada and london i did post about doing rtws from europe where im located right now hope to see post like these more often

Viajero Oct 30, 2006 3:10 pm


Originally Posted by capblake
i have been looking for a good rtw but i havent been able to cause i cant even do transit on the usa so i will look into the ones going tru canada and london i did post about doing rtws from europe where im located right now hope to see post like these more often

Canada is not the only option when going RTW sans-US. With a OWE you can also do:

...South West Pacific-South America-Europe...

Gardyloo Oct 30, 2006 3:11 pm


Originally Posted by capblake
i have been looking for a good rtw but i havent been able to cause i cant even do transit on the usa so i will look into the ones going tru canada and london i did post about doing rtws from europe where im located right now hope to see post like these more often

Europe-Africa/Asia-Australia-S. America-Europe. Not much of a challenge.

Kiwi Flyer Oct 30, 2006 7:16 pm

Even easier with *A. Lots of options for Asia-Canada-Europe bit.

QF NB Oct 30, 2006 11:20 pm

Just remember, FRI SYD-JNB-SYD services do not offer First Class and are operated by QF's 2-class 747-400. Although minor (considering there are 4 other services with F), nevertheless, something to take note of.

Also watch that QF127/8 SYD-HKG-SYD 747-400 (F/J/Y) service is often replaced by 2-class 747-400s or 747-300s.

Cheers


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