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Please help update OneWorld Explorer Ticket FAQs
The OneWorld Explorer FAQ was put together in 2004. It was correct at the time it was written, but changes have subsequently occurred. We've had someone as recently as today quote part of it. Unfortunately it was inaccurate information and had wasted some of their time in planning a trip..
Viajero just gave me a number of edits, which I have made. Would those of you who are experts on the rules take a look and see if more changes should be made? I am particularly looking for needed changes in posts 1 and 2. Please post changes in this thread; I will then edit the master thread. Thank you for your help. SanDiego1K OneWorld Moderator |
The airline affiliates allowed for OWE fares have changed significantly.
For AA: AmericanConnection service is operated by one of the following independent carriers: Trans States Airlines, Inc., Chautauqua Airlines, Inc., and Corporate Airlines, Inc. American Eagle service includes flights operated by Executive Air. For BA: BA Connect has rebranded some of the subs (not sure which). For QF: Jetstar (JQ) is allowed if a QF codeshare (but not as JQ code). |
In my opinion the 2nd line of the FAQ should be a link to the OWE rules at one of the extraction sites, with a caveat that the official rules change frequently and the FAQ is a summary of the rules and not always accurate.
This would make using the FAQ from scratch a lot easier. Too bad the Oneworld site doesn't show the OWE fare rules correctly (and has even more inaccuracies than the FAQ). |
Originally Posted by number_6
For AA: AmericanConnection service is operated by one of the following independent carriers: Trans States Airlines, Inc., Chautauqua Airlines, Inc., and Corporate Airlines, Inc. American Eagle service includes flights operated by Executive Air.
For BA: BA Connect has rebranded some of the subs (not sure which). For QF: Jetstar (JQ) is allowed if a QF codeshare (but not as JQ code). In my opinion the 2nd line of the FAQ should be a link to the OWE rules at one of the extraction sites, with a caveat that the official rules change frequently and the FAQ is a summary of the rules and not always accurate More? |
Originally Posted by number_6
...In my opinion the 2nd line of the FAQ should be a link to the OWE rules at one of the extraction sites...
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Originally Posted by number_6
For QF: Jetstar (JQ) is allowed if a QF codeshare (but not as JQ code).
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QF flights operated by "AUSTRALIAN FOR QANTAS" are now apparently eligible. I wonder if this should be explicitly mentioned in the FAQ...
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Originally Posted by number_6
In my opinion the 2nd line of the FAQ should be a link to the OWE rules at one of the extraction sites, with a caveat that the official rules change frequently and the FAQ is a summary of the rules and not always accurate.
This would make using the FAQ from scratch a lot easier. Too bad the Oneworld site doesn't show the OWE fare rules correctly (and has even more inaccuracies than the FAQ).
Originally Posted by Viajero
A link? How? The star files (AA rules) reside in SABRE, not in a published website.
• As per this and following posts, christep has made available a current copy of the CX rules here: http://www.christen.demon.co.uk/CXRule/. This page includes link to the Cathay Pacific CircleTrip, CircleThePacific, Global Explorer & OneWorld Explorer rules. • Also, the revised AA rules have been published by kanebear in conjunction with darren in one FT post by and can be found here: Rules: OneWorld Explorer Fare Update 01JUL06 (with 01JUL06 Pricing here: Pricing: OneWorld Explorer Fare Update 01JUL06). I believe all should be congratulated on making the information readily available. ^ |
Originally Posted by milksheikh
QF flights operated by "AUSTRALIAN FOR QANTAS" are now apparently eligible. I wonder if this should be explicitly mentioned in the FAQ...
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To be added to the list of restricted 'long' flights:
Croatia, Macedonia, Montenegro, Serbia. |
Linking to a "higher authority" has a couple of disadvantages - primarily, the original language isn't always very clear, so in some significant areas a newbie would be left with questions rather than answers. Oldbies too, sometimes, like yours truly.
A nit, the airline's all-caps teletype format (when will they get over that???) and general formatting isn't particularly legible in a PC world. Finally, isn't it true that the OW rules as published by the several OW carriers differ from one another? e.g. BA recently decided to invent a bunch of "WC" fares to handle their disagreement with AA (?) over eastern-bloc fares. |
Perhaps we should add a Q&A about this rule:
Code:
30N BAGGAGE |
In the case of handwritten tickets this problem has caused grief to some in the past, so perhaps we should add a suggestion, or warning, to check that the issuing airline has in fact done the following:
Code:
104N . * WHEN A TICKET MUST BE HANDWRITTEN, IT IS |
Q: What tools are available for working out my itinerary and the airline timetables?
A) You can download the oneworld electronic timetable by clicking on this link which opens a .exe file, or from the AA website by clicking this link. The links are invalid A) You can download the oneworld electronic timetable/routing planning & validation tool by clicking on this link. The new link should be http://www.oneworld.com/travel_planning/home.cfm |
Vietnam
If I'm not mistaken, the CX HKG-SGN flight is now allowed. However, HAN is still forbidden I believe.
So, under Q: Are there any other restrictions that I have per region/continent?, the line about Asia should be changed to reflect this. Thanks so much for doing this SanDiego1K!!! ^^^ |
Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer
For QF: Jetstar (JQ) is allowed if a QF codeshare (but not as JQ code). Only as long as xONEx is not purchased Australia or NZ.
Originally Posted by milksheikh
QF flights operated by "AUSTRALIAN FOR QANTAS" are now apparently eligible.
Originally Posted by serfty
A couple of FTers have made the most recent rules available as single documents as follows:
• As per this and following posts, christep has made available a current copy of the CX rules here: http://www.christen.demon.co.uk/CXRule/. This page includes link to the Cathay Pacific CircleTrip, CircleThePacific, Global Explorer & OneWorld Explorer rules. • Also, the revised AA rules have been published by kanebear in conjunction with darren in one FT post by and can be found here: Rules: OneWorld Explorer Fare Update 01JUL06 (with 01JUL06 Pricing here: Pricing: OneWorld Explorer Fare Update 01JUL06).
Originally Posted by Viajero
To be added to the list of restricted 'long' flights:
Croatia, Macedonia, Montenegro, Serbia. |
Originally Posted by Viajero
Perhaps we should add a Q&A about this rule:
Code:
30N BAGGAGE
Originally Posted by Viajero
In the case of handwritten tickets this problem has caused grief to some in the past, so perhaps we should add a suggestion, or warning, to check that the issuing airline has in fact done the following:
Code:
104N . * WHEN A TICKET MUST BE HANDWRITTEN, IT IS
Originally Posted by pltwannab
Q: What tools are available for working out my itinerary and the airline timetables?
A) You can download the oneworld electronic timetable by clicking on this link which opens a .exe file, or from the AA website by clicking this link. The links are invalid A) You can download the oneworld electronic timetable/routing planning & validation tool by clicking on this link. The new link should be http://www.oneworld.com/travel_planning/home.cfm
Originally Posted by g_leyser
If I'm not mistaken, the CX HKG-SGN flight is now allowed. However, HAN is still forbidden I believe.
So, under Q: Are there any other restrictions that I have per region/continent?, the line about Asia should be changed to reflect this. |
Originally Posted by SanDiego1K
Would you clarify? I’m not really sure what I’m meant to say.
For examples where this clarification could have been useful see this thread, or this one. |
I suggest this recently added text:
...(with 01JUL06 Pricing here: Pricing: OneWorld Explorer Fare Update 01JUL06)... be moved to the "cost" section (see below), and the text in bold edited to point to both the 01JUL06 Pricing and the sticky links. (why say 'search' when we can post a link): Q: How much does the ticket cost? A: The ticket is priced based on the number of continents you visit, a minimum of three and a maximum of six. The pricing varies depending on where in the world the ticket is issued. If want to try to save some money by starting your *ONE* somewhere other than your home to take advantage of local pricing and currency rate differences, do a search - there are various helpful posts around |
Under the First Class Routes currently available, the details for QF should now read:
QF - LAX to JFK, SYD and MEL; LHR to SIN, BKK, HKG, SYD and MEL; some flights HKG to SYD and MEL |
Yes, need to remove PER-SIN, as only 2-class 333s operate this route (QF 0016/7 was discontinued a while back)
Don't forget to add SYD-SFO + SFO-YVR (seasonal) and SYD-JNB (seasonal F Class offering?), although IIRC, one weekly SYD-JNB (Fridays?) and SYD-SFO service is operated by Qantas' 2-class 747-400s (no First Class, only J/Y). Cheers |
Originally Posted by SanDiego1K
Edited to say “Asia - No tickets to Vietnam (other than the CX flight HKG-SGN) or Cambodia permitted.” Cambodia and Vietnam flights are now allowed, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE CX HKG-HAN flights. So, it should probably just say something simple, like: "Asia - The CX HKG-HAN flight is not permitted." Sorry for the confusion :o |
Originally Posted by Viajero
Words to the effect that the OWE baggage allowance for the entire itinerary is 2 pieces of 32Kg each (AFAIK and unless modified recently).
For examples where this clarification could have been useful see this thread, or this one. |
Originally Posted by Viajero
I suggest this recently added text:
...(with 01JUL06 Pricing here: Pricing: OneWorld Explorer Fare Update 01JUL06)... be moved to the "cost" section (see below), and the text in bold edited to point to both the 01JUL06 Pricing and the sticky links. (why say 'search' when we can post a link):
Originally Posted by GibSpmuh
Under the First Class Routes currently available, the details for QF should now read:
QF - LAX to JFK, SYD and MEL; LHR to SIN, BKK, HKG, SYD and MEL; some flights HKG to SYD and MEL
Originally Posted by QF NB
Don't forget to add SYD-SFO + SFO-YVR (seasonal) and SYD-JNB (seasonal F Class offering?), although IIRC, one weekly SYD-JNB (Fridays?) and SYD-SFO service is operated by Qantas' 2-class 747-400s (no First Class, only J/Y).
Originally Posted by g_leyser
Asia - The CX HKG-HAN flight is not permitted."
Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer
The xONEx checked baggage allowance is 2 pieces. Each carrier can specify it's own limit on the maximum weight allowed per piece. On some it is 32kg, on others it is 23kg, and there may be variations for some flights (eg QF domestic prop flights have a lower limit).
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Q: Are there any other restrictions that I have per region/continent? A: Yes: South West Pacific - Within Australia only one flight is permitted between Perth and Brisbane, Cairns, Melbourne or Sydney, or between Darwin and Melbourne or Sydney. This restriction does not apply for passengers traveling to/from Africa on the Sydney-Perth direct flights. South West Pacific - within Australia only one flight is permitted between:
157N . 9. WITHIN AUSTRALIA - 158N . * ONLY 1 NONSTOP OR SINGLE PLANE FLIGHT 159N . PERMITTED 160N . BETWEEN THE FOLLOWING 161N . CITIES:BNE/CNS/SYD/MEL AND PER /SEE 162N . EXCEPTIONS 163N . BELOW/ 164N . * MEL/SYD AND DRW 165N . * MEL/SYD AND BME 166N . EXCEPTION 1: NO RESTRICTION BETWEEN SYD/MEL- 167N . PER 168N . FOR PASSENGERS ORIGINATING IN PER WHEN IN 169N . CONJUNCTION WITH TRAVEL TO/FROM 170N . JNB/BOM/SHA/PEK. 171N . EXCEPTION 2: NO RESTRICTION BETWEEN 172N . SYD/MEL-PER 173N . FOR PASSENGERS ORIGINATING NEW ZEALAND WHEN 174N . IN 175N . CONJUNCTION WITH TRAVEL TO/FROM JNB. |
Originally Posted by SLF
For the SWP section, I'd suggest the following (which now includes BME and changes the exceptions):
South West Pacific - within Australia only one flight is permitted between:
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