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thejungle Apr 9, 2006 9:20 am

LONE4 Codeshare Question
 
Hi!

I've read most of the posts I can find but I wanted to make sure before I go an book and plan!!!

I plan to add these miles to my AAdvantage account.

1) LONE4, Economy class (Ugh I know) will book in Class L

2) L if on AA gets 100% mile / 100% points and on QF 50% miles / 100% points according to AA.com -

therefore:
BNE-LAX on QF175 I'd get 3580 miles and 7161 points, but if I book on the same flight as AA7295 I'd get 7161 miles and 7161 points?

Is that correct - if it's an AA flight number (codeshare) i get awarded as though I flew an AA plane?

I know it's been asked and answered before - but I just want to make it clear in my little mind :D

Thanks
Ernie

Viajero Apr 9, 2006 9:26 am

Nope. You get 100% of -earned- miles, so if you earn 50% you get 100% of 50%, better known as 50%.

MiamiBeach Apr 9, 2006 12:23 pm


Originally Posted by Viajero
Nope. You get 100% of -earned- miles, so if you earn 50% you get 100% of 50%, better known as 50%.

Just to clear this up:

QF175 L earns 3580 miles and 3580 points
AA7295 L earns 7161 miles and 7161 points

Dave Noble Apr 9, 2006 4:34 pm

As pointed out , you would only get 3581 points and 3581 miles if you fly on the QF flight number.

if you book on the AA codeshare you will get 7161 miles and 7161 qpoints. Definately worth booking the AA flight numbers where you can. If you are flying from Europe down towards Asia on your trip, the WT+ supplement on BA is definately worth considering; a much more comfortable flight plus 110% miles ( rather than the likely 50% on QF or 25% on BA or zero on CX ) for a fee of AUD600 for either UK-Asia or BKK/SIN-SYD or AUD900 LHR-SYD

Dave

thejungle Apr 9, 2006 5:00 pm

Hi!

Oops: I knew I'd stuff it up. I kinda knew (I think) that I'd earn 100% points on the earned miles but - I dunno. Thanks for the clearup!

I'm glad to have it confirmed though that I'm better off flying on AA coded flights where possible (to earn the most points!).

I'll be starting in Australia and going NZ, US, Europe, Asia so the WT option may be worthwhile.

Thanks
Ernie

ijgordon Apr 9, 2006 8:11 pm

And I think the good news is that being on a LONE*, you can book any existing AA codeshares along the way, subject to L class availability of course. If purchasing regular tickets, the AA codeshares are often meaningfully more expensive than if ticketed on the operating carrier, but you won't have to worry about that on the OWE.

thejungle Apr 9, 2006 11:31 pm


Originally Posted by ijgordon
If purchasing regular tickets, the AA codeshares are often meaningfully more expensive than if ticketed on the operating carrier

Yes, I was looking at ITA yesterday and noticed the codeshare flights for AA on QF metal were about $400 more than the QF flights.

I only wish the WT+ on BA was AU$600/$900 for the whole ticket rather than per segment. :(

serfty Apr 10, 2006 12:17 am


Originally Posted by ijgordon
And I think the good news is that being on a LONE*, you can book any existing AA codeshares along the way, subject to L class availability of course. If purchasing regular tickets, the AA codeshares are often meaningfully more expensive than if ticketed on the operating carrier, but you won't have to worry about that on the OWE.

Note: This is true only for AA codeshares on oneWORLD Metal. i.e. If it's an AA codeshare, the flight must be operated by AY/BA/CX/EI/IB/LA/QF/LP.

thejungle Apr 10, 2006 5:01 am

So as long as I book on an AA flight # on a OW metal (usually AA/QF/BA I would think) I should get 100%!

If it's a codeshare say QF metal, are all the `L' class availability available to both flight numbers.

I know this is a bad analogy but say there's 100 `L' class seats, do 50 go to the QF # and 50 to the AA # or 70/30 or are the 100 available for whichever flight # gets them first.

number_6 Apr 10, 2006 10:18 am


Originally Posted by thejungle
So as long as I book on an AA flight # on a OW metal (usually AA/QF/BA I would think) I should get 100%!

If it's a codeshare say QF metal, are all the `L' class availability available to both flight numbers.

I know this is a bad analogy but say there's 100 `L' class seats, do 50 go to the QF # and 50 to the AA # or 70/30 or are the 100 available for whichever flight # gets them first.

No, each airline controls its own inventory and it is completely unrelated to the "other" flight. Think of codeshares as virtual airplanes. It is entirely possible for AA to decide to offer L0 on its codeshares, if it thinks the seats can be sold for a higher fare (historically AA has been pretty good at making L/D/A inventory available on most routes, including codeshares).

The AA/QF price difference is a bit misleading as AA has a much smaller fuel surcharge than QF; the total price after taxes and surcharges for AA LAX-SYD is typically USD 100 more than for QF on the same plane, rather than USD 400.


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