NA-Tahiti-NZ++
 

I just finished my firs DONE reservation. Now I need to do another for next year :)

TVC-ORD-LAX-PPT [stopover]
PPT-AKL-CHC [stopover]
CHC-SYD-ASP [stopover] [train to ADL…drive to MEL]
MEL-HBA [stopover]
HBA-MEL-CHC [stopover]
CHC-AKL-LAX-ORD [stop over]
ORD-DFW [stopover]
DFW-ORD-TVC

Is the GLOBal explorer the one way to get to Tahiti?
Can the CIRCle product get me there?

Any other suggestions for additions and subtractions?

It seems that if you want to fly in businesss Circle is still better than point to point based on dollars?

Is this a good use of dollars?

Yes.

No.

The itinerary isn't valid for any Oneworld product. It's not a valid circle trip because you are using non-OW carriers and it's not a valid GlobEx because it's not a valid routing. With a global explorer, youre required to go around the world still. What you have there is a round trip ticket with a lot of extra stops and side-trips. I am sure you can work it out, though, with a bit of patience.

Generally, yes.

Depends on how many you have, I would guess.

You had me at:
Not possible. When you say "I just finished my DONE reservation"-- what, exactly, do you mean? As Darren points out, that 'aint no DONE-- that's for sure.

I just finished another DONE4 'vaild' reservation.

Now I am trying to make a new one that includes Tahiti or Fiji...looks like it will have to be a DGLOB34.


Do you think this might work?

Notice the backtracking within the SP region. Is that allowed?

Also notice the weird NA stops at the end.

TVC-ORD-LAX-AKL-CHC [stopover] 2 NA seg; 1 SP seg
CHC-AKL-PPT [stopover] 2 SP seg
PPT-AKL [stopover] 1SP seg (4 SP seg, no more seg available in SP)
overland
SYD-BKK-LHR-ORD [stopover] 1 NA stopover
ORD-DFW [stopover] 2 NA stopover
DFW-ORD-TVC

32185 miles

What flight did you find for AKL-PPT-AKL? Used to be no ONEWORLD carrier that flew that route -- and a QF codeshare on non-OW is NOT eligible for this fare! So have you found a schedule change which has QF or LA flying it? Or assumed that the rules could be bent for this sector and codeshare didn't matter? Note that the eligible carriers are different for the various fares, it sound like you are using the Circle Pacific rules for the OWE fare (and that doesn't quite work, to our chagrin).

Thanks. I thought Air Tahiti was a parter for Global Exlplorer, but you may be right. How about:

Notice the backtracking within the SP region. Is that allowed?

Also notice the weird NA stops at the end.

TVC-ORD-LAX-AKL-CHC [stopover] 2 NA seg; 1 SP seg
CHC-SYD-PPT [stopover] 2 SP seg
PPT-SYD [stopover] 1SP seg (4 SP seg, no more seg available in SP)
SYD-BKK-LHR-ORD [stopover] 1 NA stopover
ORD-DFW [stopover] 2 NA stopover
DFW-ORD-TVC

It seems there is some confusion here. AAalot, on the Global Explorer, you are limited in miles but you can use a lot of other carriers that you cannot use in the other Oneworld products. That's why you can't do your trip as a Circle Pacific.

So assuming youre doing a Global Explorer, you can use the following airlines under their own designator.

British Airways
Qantas
American Airlines
Aer Lingus
Lan Chile
Finnair
Iberia
Cathay Pacific
Gulf Air
Lan Peru
Air Pacific
Swiss Air

Codeshares are a bit more complicated but can be summed up in two rules.

First, you can book any codeshare that exists within the aforementioned group. So you can book an American Airlines codeshare with Cathay or a Finnair codeshare with BA, and etc.

Second, you can book codeshares on Qantas on any of the following airlines:
Air Vanuatu
Air Tahiti Nui
Air Nuigini
South African Air
Air Caladonie
Vietnam Airlines

Those flights *must* be on a Qantas designator and can *not* be on the originating airlines designator. In other words, if you want to book AKL-PPT you *must* book QF3825 and cannot book TN102

Now for your other questions, yes you can backtrack within the same "continent" with limited exceptions that don't apply here (such as not through your contry of origin or your city of origin).

Youre allowed as many segments as you want in any single continent as long as the total does not go over 20 and youre not flying the same segment more than once.

Youre limited to 15 stopovers total and 4 per continent. Your continent of origin (North America) youre limited to only two.

You can do a surface but must accout for the mileage in the total.

You proposed (stopovers in parens):
TVC-ORD-LAX-AKL-(CHC)-AKL-(PPT)-(AKL//SYD)-BKK-LHR-(ORD)-(DFW)-ORD-TVC

So your stops are:
Christchurch
Papeete
Auckland/Sydney
Chicago
Dallas

Total mileage is about 32000 miles

Both are well within your allotments.

Now. Suggestions and tips. First, you can add the AKL-SYD segment without hurting anything. Second, you can also add stops in Asia and Europe if you choose. Finally, the AKL-PPT-AKL must be booked on a QF flight designator. The others you can book on the operating flight designator.

Is this valid? Notice NAN (FIJI segments operated by Air Pacific)


27 JUL 05 Fly TVC to PPT
=========== Multipart 3 Flight Segments
----------- Part 1: ------------------------------------
AA 4274 Dep TVC 2:53 PM Arr ORD 2:57 PM Dur: 1h:04m
DepTerm: Equip:ER4 ArrTerm:3
Meals:F
Owned by: AA EAGLE
----------- Part 2: ------------------------------------
AA 451 Dep ORD 5:38 PM Arr LAX 8:01 PM Dur: 4h:23m
DepTerm:3 Equip:M80 ArrTerm:4
Meals:F

----------- Part 3: ------------------------------------
QF 3828 Dep LAX 11:45PM Arr PPT 5:05 AM Dur: 8h:20m
DepTerm:B Equip:343 ArrTerm:
Meals:RM
Operated by: AIR TAHITI N


2 AUG 05 Fly PPT to AKL
QF 3826 Dep PPT 8:05 AM Arr AKL 12:10PM Dur: 6h:05m
DepTerm: Equip:343 ArrTerm:I
Meals:BR
Operated by: AIR TAHITI N


10 AUG 05 Fly AKL to NAN
QF 3843 Dep AKL 1:00 PM Arr NAN 4:05 PM Dur: 3h:05m
DepTerm:I Equip:73H ArrTerm:
Meals:L
Operated by: AIR PACIFIC


17 AUG 05 Fly NAN to AKL
QF 3842 Dep NAN 8:45 AM Arr AKL 11:55AM Dur: 3h:10m
DepTerm: Equip:73H ArrTerm:I
Meals:B
Operated by: AIR PACIFIC


18 AUG 05 Fly SYD to AYQ
QF 726 Dep SYD 9:45 AM Arr AYQ 12:40PM Dur: 3h:25m
DepTerm:3 Equip:73H ArrTerm:
Meals:L


7 SEP 05 Fly SYD to LHR
=========== Multipart 2 Flight Segments
----------- Part 1: ------------------------------------
QF 1 Dep SYD 4:50 PM Arr BKK 11:00PM Dur: 9h:10m
DepTerm:1 Equip:744 ArrTerm:2
Meals:DR

----------- Part 2: ------------------------------------
QF 1 Dep BKK 0:25 AM Arr LHR 6:45 AM Dur:12h:20m
DepTerm:2 Equip:744 ArrTerm:4
Meals:BR



8 SEP 05 Fly LHR to ORD
AA 99 Dep LHR 7:55 AM Arr ORD 10:15AM Dur: 8h:20m
DepTerm:3 Equip:777 ArrTerm:5
Meals:BS



14 SEP 05 Fly ORD to DFW
AA 2327 Dep ORD 1:00 PM Arr DFW 3:24 PM Dur: 2h:24m
DepTerm:3 Equip:M80 ArrTerm:C
Meals:

Yes, Air Pacific is fine. I corrected the other post because I for some reason thought FJ was Fiji Air. It's Air Pacific and you can use either the QF codeshare or the FJ designator. Your choice. I am too tired to decypher all the flights you posted but after glancing it seems fine.

Doesnt look right to me. 1155 in AKL on 17 Aug = 0955 in SYD (2 hour time difference except for about a week at the start and end of daylight saving). So you want to leave SYD before you even arrive? :confused:

fixed

I am still confused about Air Pacifc however

Okay so you either have the earlybird AKL-SYD flight on 18th (dont take LAN as risk of being late and thus misconnecting is too high) or the mid afternoon flight on 17th.