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npollet Apr 15, 2005 4:53 am

RTW with BA & QF : which FFP do u recommend ?
 
Hi all,

I'll be making a RTW trip in June with BA and QF in H class (economy) :

CDG-LHR with BA
LHR-NRT with BA
NRT-CNS with QF
CNS-AYQ with QF
AYQ-SYD with QF
SYD-NAN with QF operated by FJ
NAN-LAX with QF operated by FJ
LAX-LHR with BA
LHR-CDG with BA

I have around 23,000 Asia Miles (CX) and my wife who will make the trip with me has not registered with any FFP.

Now the question is : What should I do ?

Sould I stick with Asia miles or enroll with BA or QF ? And what about my wife ?

Thanks a lot guys
npollet

AAaLot Apr 15, 2005 4:21 pm


Originally Posted by npollet
Hi all,

I'll be making a RTW trip in June with BA and QF in H class (economy) :

CDG-LHR with BA
LHR-NRT with BA
NRT-CNS with QF
CNS-AYQ with QF
AYQ-SYD with QF
SYD-NAN with QF operated by FJ
NAN-LAX with QF operated by FJ
LAX-LHR with BA
LHR-CDG with BA

I have around 23,000 Asia Miles (CX) and my wife who will make the trip with me has not registered with any FFP.

Now the question is : What should I do ?

Sould I stick with Asia miles or enroll with BA or QF ? And what about my wife ?

Thanks a lot guys
npollet

I thought SYD-NAN-LAX would not qualify since it is not Qantas metal???

Does someone know the answer to this?

ijgordon Apr 15, 2005 4:43 pm


Originally Posted by AAaLot
I thought SYD-NAN-LAX would not qualify since it is not Qantas metal???

Does someone know the answer to this?

Assuming that this is an OWE ticket, then no, that flight would not be allowed. All flights must be operated by OneWorld carriers.

But since the OP mentions he is flying in "H" class, then maybe he's using some other RTW product. As we know, the OWE RTW books in L for Economy class.

As for QF vs. BA, I'll have to leave that up to others who know those programs.

npollet Apr 16, 2005 2:46 am

RTW flights are not very popular in France.

The product I'm using is called "Dreamtime two" and is available from Qantas here in France.

The fare is 1419€ + taxes for 6 stops, a departure in June and is booked in H class.

My flights SYD-NAN-LAX do have a QF flight number.

To me, that fare looks like an equivalent of "World Discovery Plus" that is available in the UK, check this out : http://www.westernair.co.uk/rtwworlddiscoveryplus.html

But the question still is : what's the most interesting FFP to enroll for this itinerary ? Or should I stay with Asia Miles ?

Thanks guys
npollet

inasmuchas Apr 17, 2005 12:50 am

Hi Npollet,

Looking at your itinerary I'd say the Qantas FF program will offer you the best earning potential. You'll earn 100% of miles on all QF sectors (including the two operated by FJ), and because you're booked in H class, you'll earn 100% of miles on the BA sectors as well. Most economy booking classes on BA only earn 25% of miles. Based on this, your itinerary would earn you around 27,000 miles, which should be plenty for a free return trip within Europe.

You could credit your flights to AsiaMiles, where you will earn 100% of miles for your BA flights, but only 50% of miles for the QF operated sectors. Note that the SYD-NAN and NAN-LAX will not accrue any miles because they are operated by a non-oneworld carrier, despite the fact it's on a QF flight number. If you have status with AsiaMiles, or if this itinerary will help you attain status then it may be worth not earning miles on the two FJ sectors for the greater gain.

The other option of course is to join AA's AAdvantage program, but then you won't be able to earn any points for your trans-atlantic BA flight.

Hope this helps, and hope you enjoy your time in this part of the world.

Dave Noble Apr 17, 2005 3:32 am


Originally Posted by npollet
Hi all,

I'll be making a RTW trip in June with BA and QF in H class (economy) :

CDG-LHR with BA
LHR-NRT with BA
NRT-CNS with QF
CNS-AYQ with QF
AYQ-SYD with QF
SYD-NAN with QF operated by FJ
NAN-LAX with QF operated by FJ
LAX-LHR with BA
LHR-CDG with BA

I have around 23,000 Asia Miles (CX) and my wife who will make the trip with me has not registered with any FFP.

Now the question is : What should I do ?

Sould I stick with Asia miles or enroll with BA or QF ? And what about my wife ?

Thanks a lot guys
npollet

If you credit to BA, you will earn full miles and full tier credits for your H class itinery which will give you

20+60+60+20+20+20+60+60+20 = 320 Tier Credits. If you have a BA account with a French address, you will be only 80 Tier Credits from Silver which isnt too hard to achieve , so the BA scheme might well be worthwhile for you if you are looking for status

Dave

Traveloguy Apr 17, 2005 9:55 am


Originally Posted by inasmuchas
Looking at your itinerary I'd say the Qantas FF program will offer you the best earning potential. You'll earn 100% of miles on all QF sectors (including the two operated by FJ), and because you're booked in H class, you'll earn 100% of miles on the BA sectors as well. Most economy booking classes on BA only earn 25% of miles. Based on this, your itinerary would earn you around 27,000 miles, which should be plenty for a free return trip within Europe.

Sorry to tell you this, but an H class fare on BA will only earn 0.25 points in the QF programme. There is an exception to this however (at least till 30 June). The exception is as follows:

"Qantas Frequent Flyers from Australia and New Zealand can now enjoy one point for every mile flown on British Airways economy class flights between Australia and Europe.

This bonus offer is valid for travel from 24 August 2004 until 30 June 2005 on eligible economy flights that include a British Airways flight number on the ticket.

Eligible flights are all British Airways flights in either direction between Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Perth, Adelaide or Darwin to Singapore, Bangkok, and Frankfurt or London. All other British Airways discount economy flights on non-JSA routes will continue to earn 0.25 Qantas Frequent Flyer points per mile flown.

Points earned under this bonus offer will be automatically credited to the member's account within six weeks after travel is completed."

Further information can be found at the following link:

http://www.britishairways.com/travel...prim=specoff#4

Y fares are unfortuantely usually the only way to get 100% mileage credit on BA flights through the QF programme.

Dave Noble Apr 17, 2005 2:22 pm


Originally Posted by QF Hammer
Sorry to tell you this, but an H class fare on BA will only earn 0.25 points in the QF programme.

It's good to be sorry since the information is incorrect

For accrual to Qantas ( as detailed at http://www.qantas.com.au/fflyer/dyn/...m/terms#jump23 )

GKLMNOQRSV classes earn 25% mileage
BHY classes earn 100% mileage
TW classes earn 110% mileage
CDIJ classes earn 135% mileage
AF classes earn 150% mileage

An H class ticket, accrued to Qantas will earn 100% miles and Discount Economy Status credits

( On the Oz-UK routes there is the current bonus where all discount economy classes earn at 100% )

Dave


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