Winter flying in USA/Canada
If I do all of the 6 NA segments of a DONE4 during jan/feb, is the weather likely to be a risk factor? Not in FLA or CAL, surely, but what about further north? I mean, missing connections, being fog/snow bound, cancelled flights, etc.
All these fun events are easy enough to deal with on a point to point trip, and I'm not particularly worried about them, but with a RTW with 20 segments things could get nasty, no? I've been to NA many times, but never in winter, so would appreciate the advice of the local guys. |
Originally Posted by Viajero
If I do all of the 6 NA segments of a DONE4 during jan/feb, is the weather likely to be a risk factor? Not in FLA or CAL, surely, but what about further north? I mean, missing connections, being fog/snow bound, cancelled flights, etc.
All these fun events are easy enough to deal with on a point to point trip, and I'm not particularly worried about them, but with a RTW with 20 segments things could get nasty, no? I've been to NA many times, but never in winter, so would appreciate the advice of the local guys. Think about this. UA has a hub in Denver and Chicago. American has a hub in Chicago. Northwest has a hub in Detroit and Minneapolis. US Air has a hub in Philadelphia. If snow was a serious factor then the US air transport system would not function. |
But having said that, Chicago does seem to have bad days... I had to reroute a mileage run through the US on the fly in February when delays at ORD resulted in me missing a connection at SFO. Cost be a couple of thousand miles in the end, though fortunately I managed to reroute in a way that got me to my JFK-HKG flight in time.
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Originally Posted by christep
But having said that, Chicago does seem to have bad days... I had to reroute a mileage run through the US on the fly in February when delays at ORD resulted in me missing a connection at SFO. Cost be a couple of thousand miles in the end, though fortunately I managed to reroute in a way that got me to my JFK-HKG flight in time.
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Originally Posted by Viajero
That's what I mean. Does the carrier (AA, say) normally help you with the rerouting/reticketing in these cases or do they tell you go fly a kite and talk to the TA who sold you the ticket?
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Not much experience with the OWE (did a couple soon after they came out, none for a long time) but I would speculate that reroutes caused by weather delays constitute involuntary rather than a voluntary changes, and therefore segment limits are not applicable. Of course the downside of an involuntary change is that you tend to have to take what's offered, even if it is less than ideal. You might find some interesting info here and here which I found after a brief search.
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It seems to me that unless you have some particular reason to be in Chicago, you should try to avoid it as a transit point if you are operating on a tight schedule. There are many delays generated by Chicago during winter months. I have always opted for DFW that time of year and, so far at least, have managed pretty well.
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Originally Posted by hvd
It seems to me that unless you have some particular reason to be in Chicago, you should try to avoid it as a transit point if you are operating on a tight schedule. There are many delays generated by Chicago during winter months. I have always opted for DFW that time of year and, so far at least, have managed pretty well.
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Originally Posted by hvd
It seems to me that unless you have some particular reason to be in Chicago, you should try to avoid it as a transit point if you are operating on a tight schedule. There are many delays generated by Chicago during winter months. I have always opted for DFW that time of year and, so far at least, have managed pretty well.
When traveling on a RTW ticket, it is always a good idea to have a "Plan B" for the entire journey. The weather is only one of many potential factors that can affect your trip. |
When I was messed up at ORD, the lady in the Flagship Lounge their was extremely helpful, looking for all sorts of rerouting possibilities. My original routing was ORD-SFO-JFK-PHX-JFK-HKG... with the SFO-JFK being the overnight transcon. I had to use the JFK flight back to HKG because I had stored luggage there on my way into the US since I didn't want checked bags on a 6 segment mileage run. Withoutthe luggage I would have had much more freedom.
Unfortunately the ORD-SFO (which was an extension of a LHR-ORD flight IIRC) required an equipment change at ORD and the incoming equipment was delayed and delayed with the result that although I had originally something like a 2.5 hour transit at SFO it seemed very unlikely I would make it. I worked on it with the lady (I seem to remember her name was Sheila) at the FL for an hour or so, and the best we came up with was for me to take the delayed ORD-SFO and hope that it made up a little time (forecast arrival was 10 mins after departure of the SFO-JFK). But the plan B was that I could get the later SFO-DFW then DFW-PHX to pick up the originally planned PHX-JFK. In the event we didn't make up any time, so Plan B came into force. The lady at ORD had already called ahead to the Admiral's Club at SFO to let them know what was going on, and arranged for her to reissue the relevant ticket coupons (at no charge) if I had to adopt Plan B. The help I got from the FL at ORD and the AC at SFO was outstanding, and although I got a few less miles out of the mileage run than I had hoped there was no serious disruption to my plans. There was, however, an amusing incident at SFO where I got my new boarding card at the AC with the dreaded "SSSS" on it... The very helpful lady there said that although I was already airside I wouldn't be able to board until I had gone through secondary screening and had the SSSS cancelled. But to make the process quick and easy she invited me to leave my carry-ons and coat in the AC and just go through the secondary screening in shirtsleeves carrying nothing except my boarding pass. This obviously made the process as easy as possible, but did rather defeat the object I thought. :) |
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