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Which OW partner will offer the best JAL Biz class deal SYD to Mongolia (China)

Which OW partner will offer the best JAL Biz class deal SYD to Mongolia (China)

Old Apr 29, 04, 12:48 pm
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Which OW partner will offer the best JAL Biz class deal SYD to Mongolia (China)

Am not up to speed on OW awards and hope one of the resident experts can assist.

Joh and I want to visit Ulan Bator Mongolia (ULN) in early June for the Nadaam Festival.

Sounds like there are only 3 It'l carriers service it:

Air China from Beijing

Korean Airlines from Seoul

JAL from Japan

We want to fly from SYD to ULN.

Air China regard ULN as "China" for award purposes and that is 75,000 United miles each from SYD round trip, but they had no availability on the PEK-ULN legs.

As a revenue ticket for that last hop is about $US425 in coach we'd rather avoid paying that if we can.

Is there some kind of JAL award on OW partner that might allow SYD-ULN for around 75K in Biz RT?

We have not many OW miles and will need to swap long dated United SWU upgrades or a KLM award or whatever with someone when we do figger if there is a decent priced award with some OW partner.

I am just HOPING we do not need to call this two awards - a SYD-NRT and a NRT-ULN. Does anyone know?

Thanks in advance for any input you might share!

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Old Apr 29, 04, 1:35 pm
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AA has just one award chart for all awards now:
http://www.aa.com/content/AAdvantage...ne_chart.jhtml
A rt biz award from south pacific to Asia1 (includes Mongolia) is 90,000 AA miles.
JL is an asiamiles partner but ulan bator is not listed as an asiamiles destination in the award chart.
http://www.asiamiles.com/
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Old Apr 30, 04, 4:36 am
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Thanks for that info . Do you have any idea if it is the same number of points using Qantas miles or BA miles, etc.?
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Old Apr 30, 04, 6:01 am
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I'm not sure about using BA points, but I don't think you'll be able to use Qantas points at all. Certainly not on JL, KE or CA.

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Old Apr 30, 04, 10:39 am
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I wouldn't call it china when you get there though.
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Old Apr 30, 04, 11:01 am
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In principle I don't see why you couldn't use AsiaMiles on JAL. I believe it would be 100,000 miles for a business class roundtrip ticket.
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Old May 1, 04, 2:33 am
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Originally Posted by ozstamps
Joh and I want to visit Ulan Bator Mongolia (ULN) in early June for the Nadaam Festival.

Sounds like there are only 3 It'l carriers service it:

JAL from Japan
Really ?
I can not find ULN from JAPAN route operated by JAL.
JAL's web page indicates route maps, however, it does not have ULN route.

JAL's English web page is:
http://www.jal.co.jp/en/
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Old May 1, 04, 12:47 pm
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Originally Posted by Wasabi Tofu
Really ?
I can not find ULN from JAPAN route operated by JAL.
JAL's web page indicates route maps, however, it does not have ULN route.
JAL's English web page is:
http://www.jal.co.jp/en/
I can't find that JAL services ULN either.
The official Mongolian government tourism lists a number of options to ULN from SIN, Osaka, NRT, SEL, Frankfurt, and Berlin but most involve the mongolian national airline:
http://www.miat.com/
See also:
http://www.mongoliatourism.gov.mn/get_to.htm
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Old May 2, 04, 9:41 am
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Originally Posted by jerry a. laska
I can't find that JAL services ULN either.
The official Mongolian government tourism lists a number of options to ULN from SIN, Osaka, NRT, SEL, Frankfurt, and Berlin but most involve the mongolian national airline:
http://www.miat.com/
See also:
http://www.mongoliatourism.gov.mn/get_to.htm
JAL doesn't operate JAPAN-ULN route.

By the way, Aeroflot(SU) operates 2 times weekly between SVO-ULN.
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Originally Posted by AHO
JAL doesn't operate JAPAN-ULN route.

By the way, Aeroflot(SU) operates 2 times weekly between SVO-ULN.
Aeroflot does fly this route and I would be very interested to know what their C class is like on the Tupolev TU-154....it looks like the Russian version of a 727 with 3x3 seating in C and Y. Ozstamps, you might have to spring for F on this segment to get 2x2 seating
http://www.aeroflot.com/about/ty154.shtml

Why is Korean Air not possible?
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Old May 4, 04, 5:58 am
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Thanks for the info folks.

So JAL do NOT serve ULN?

Odd, as 2 x ULN travel agents told us they do, but JAL would know more than them of course.

We need an award to get us from SYD to Mongolia, so sadly Aeroflot are not going to be of much help I do not think.

We need to trade someone for award flights to ULN. so we are SOL it seems?
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Old May 4, 04, 11:57 am
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Originally Posted by ozstamps
Thanks for the info folks.
So JAL do NOT serve ULN?
Odd, as 2 x ULN travel agents told us they do, but JAL would know more than them of course.
We need an award to get us from SYD to Mongolia, so sadly Aeroflot are not going to be of much help I do not think.
We need to trade someone for award flights to ULN. so we are SOL it seems?
In June (low season) Korean air can get 2 people there for 126,000 in prestige class and 162,000 first.
Using delta miles it looks like 110,000/person for biz.

Edited to add time of year for Korean air award.

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