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Ex OSL DONE 4 help
Am planning to shortly book ex OSL DONE4. We have completed a number of xONEx - but many years ago. Just had some confirmations and questions that I would appreciate any comments on.
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Use your travel agent.
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One further question. The online tool says if you go over 26,000 miles you can only have 4 North American segments. Is that right?
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Originally Posted by teddyflyer
(Post 36643716)
One further question. The online tool says if you go over 26,000 miles you can only have 4 North American segments. Is that right?
https://www.oneworld.com/round-the-world Proposed itinerary: OSL-HEL-HKG-HAN-HKG-SYD-PER-ADL-SYD-HNL-DFW-MIA-JFK-MAD-OSL |
Originally Posted by Mwenenzi
(Post 36643756)
It is picking up an error (for a DONE) and defaulting to the distance based GLOB. May be a false error. No distance restriction on DONE.
https://www.oneworld.com/round-the-world Are all the flights on OW airlines and non stop? GLOB has more eligible airlines. I think I will just get the agent to do it. Thanks |
Have you thought about using Qatar for the OSL HKG? I stumbled on that option to try.
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Originally Posted by teddyflyer
(Post 36642205)
Am planning to shortly book ex OSL DONE4. We have completed a number of xONEx - but many years ago. Just had some confirmations and questions that I would appreciate any comments on.
i don't think Finn Air ever ticket xONEx tickets. Its non trivial to have open dated tickets most ways you ticket but it's free to change dates later so just far-ish out dates in. |
The rules allow 16 segments. You seem to have less.
OSL-DOH-HKG would be my preferred routing for obvious reasons. JFK-MAD can be on AA coded flight to ensure your ticketing by AA. You can't have open date. All flights must have dates. |
OSL-DOH-HKG would definitely be a nicer first flight, but I wonder if it's a bit (~$200?) more expensive in taxes/surcharges which may or may not sway you.
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Thanks for the comments.
We like the Finnair business class seat and don’t drink alcohol or eat much in flight. We also prefer not DOH following events at that airport historically. Will chat to the agent soon and consider whether AA RTW might also be an option. |
I have to recommend the AA RTW desk for a far in the future XONEX.
We booked DONE3 back in March 2024 for travel starting January 2025. Fortunately, we booked it with AA RTW because I've already received a couple handfuls of changes/cancellations to the itinerary that required phone calls. One of the changes was cancellation of the first flight from ORIGIN. Lots of phone time. At least it's a dedicated desk. |
Originally Posted by teddyflyer
(Post 36642205)
leave later segments open dated,
Originally Posted by teddyflyer
(Post 36648681)
We like the Finnair business class seat and don’t drink alcohol or eat much in flight. We also prefer not DOH following events at that airport historically.
Nevertheless regardless of AY or AA or QR it’s usually best to book with the AA RTW desk. |
Originally Posted by SP0
(Post 36674643)
Generally you can’t leave segments open dated, at least in my experience with AA RTW desk. You might need to leave until say 300 days before departure then book flights on specified dates, and move them later. No charge to do this as long as you don’t change routing - watch out that you separate the flights because if one ends up automatically classified as a “stopover” then rescheduling may trigger repricing and a change fee.
While the Finnair blueberry juice is wonderful, QR’s Qsuite is very comfortable indeed, and the service excellent. I don’t know why DOH is an issue - we have always found it very smooth and the lounge is excellent (once you go through all the flapping about which lounge you are allowed into). Nevertheless regardless of AY or AA or QR it’s usually best to book with the AA RTW desk. Australian women sue Qatar Airways over forced examinations at Doha airport | Australia news | The Guardian |
Originally Posted by teddyflyer
(Post 36680973)
This is why we prefer not DOH. Thanks
Australian women sue Qatar Airways over forced examinations at Doha airport | Australia news | The Guardian Yes, that sounds like a sufficiently frequent scenario to warrant changing travel patterns to avoid :-) A horrible incident all around, for sure - but shown in court to be actions of police and not QR. |
Originally Posted by SP0
(Post 36680999)
“authorities searched for the mother of a newborn baby found abandoned in a plastic bag”
Yes, that sounds like a sufficiently frequent scenario to warrant changing travel patterns to avoid :-) A horrible incident all around, for sure - but shown in court to be actions of police and not QR. |
I am playing around with the online tool. On some days expert flyer shows OSL - HKG as operated by N7 (Nordic Regional Airlines). All days there is an AY flight number. On those days I am unable to select the flight in the Oneworld tool, it returns as no flights available. Is N7 permissible on a DGLOB34 or a DONE 4?
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Originally Posted by teddyflyer
(Post 36816834)
I am playing around with the online tool. On some days expert flyer shows OSL - HKG as operated by N7 (Nordic Regional Airlines). All days there is an AY flight number. On those days I am unable to select the flight in the Oneworld tool, it returns as no flights available. Is N7 permissible on a DGLOB34 or a DONE 4?
J.TRAVEL ON ANY AA/AS/AT/AY/BA/CX/IB/JL/ MH/NU/QF/QR/RJ/UL CODESHARE SERVICE OPERATED BY AA/AS/AT/AY/BA/CX/IB/JL/MH/ NU/QF/QR/RJ/UL IS PERMITTED. OTHER CODESHARE SERVICES NOT PERMITTED WITH THE EXCEPTION OF QF CODESHARE SERVICES OPERATED BY JETSTAR /JQ / QF OPERATED SERVICES WITHIN USA EG LAX-JFK VV NOT PERMITTED UNLESS BOOKED AS A THROUGH FLIGHT SEGMENT BETWEEN AUSTRALIA AND USA EG SYD-JFK VV - ADDITIONALLY TRAVEL IS PERMITTED ON THE FOLLOWING AFFILIATED AIRLINES - ALASKA AIRLINES - HORIZON AIR/SKYWEST AIRLINES - AMERICAN AIRLINES - AMERICAN EAGLE OPERATED BY ENVOY AIR/COMPASS AIRLINES/MESA AIRLINES/ PIEDMONT AIRLINES/PSA AIRLINES/REPUBLIC AIRWAYS/SKYWEST AIRLINES - - BRITISH AIRWAYS - SUN-AIR OF SCANDINAVIA/BA LIMITED - FINNAIR - NORDIC REGIONAL AIRLINES - IBERIA - AIR NOSTRUM/IBERIA EXPRESS - JAPAN AIRLINES - J-AIR/HOKKAIDO AIR SYSTEM/ JAPAN AIR COMMUTER - QANTAS - QANTASLINK OPERATED BY AIRLINK/ EASTERN AUSTRALIA/NATIONAL JET SYSTEMS/ NETWORK AVIATION/SUNSTATE AIRLINES/JETCONNECT - ROYAL AIR MAROC - ROYAL AIR MAROC EXPRESS - GROUND TRANSPORTATION SERVICES OPERATED BY/FOR BA/QF MAY NOT BE INCLUDED AS PART OF THE ONEWORLD EXPLORER. |
Originally Posted by zoombee
(Post 36645511)
OSL-DOH-HKG would definitely be a nicer first flight, but I wonder if it's a bit (~$200?) more expensive in taxes/surcharges which may or may not sway you.
Now thinking of an ex-OSL DONE5 for later in the year - this detail about QR surcharges caught my attention. For a ticket that will maximize QR, and to a lesser extent, CX, and JL sectors, which ticketing carrier is best these days, to minimize the surcharges involved? AA-RTW desk would be my normal default (including AA marketed/operated on MIA-GRU), but if carrier imposed charges when ticketing through them really are around $200 a sector for QR, I maybe should consider another option, if a better one exists. Can anyone here please advise? |
Originally Posted by checkerboard
(Post 36817396)
AA-RTW desk would be my normal default (including AA marketed/operated on MIA-GRU), but if carrier imposed charges when ticketing through them really are around $200 a sector for QR, I maybe should consider another option, if a better one exists.
Can anyone here please advise? |
Work with a travel agent to figure out what is best.
Should also figure out what your limit is first, before trial and error. |
Have issued DONE3 on 31st of December for a good old friend on QR from Oslo was EUR5213 if issued on British Airways the same was EUR5982. The difference was YQ.
Hope this helps. |
Originally Posted by checkerboard
(Post 36817396)
I'm a flyer with quite some xONEx under his belt, but haven't ventured out on one for a while now, and my intuition for how to minimize taxes and fees is woefully out of date.
Now thinking of an ex-OSL DONE5 for later in the year - this detail about QR surcharges caught my attention. For a ticket that will maximize QR, and to a lesser extent, CX, and JL sectors, which ticketing carrier is best these days, to minimize the surcharges involved? AA-RTW desk would be my normal default (including AA marketed/operated on MIA-GRU), but if carrier imposed charges when ticketing through them really are around $200 a sector for QR, I maybe should consider another option, if a better one exists. Can anyone here please advise? |
Originally Posted by checkerboard
(Post 36817396)
I'm a flyer with quite some xONEx under his belt, but haven't ventured out on one for a while now, and my intuition for how to minimize taxes and fees is woefully out of date.
Now thinking of an ex-OSL DONE5 for later in the year - this detail about QR surcharges caught my attention. For a ticket that will maximize QR, and to a lesser extent, CX, and JL sectors, which ticketing carrier is best these days, to minimize the surcharges involved? AA-RTW desk would be my normal default (including AA marketed/operated on MIA-GRU), but if carrier imposed charges when ticketing through them really are around $200 a sector for QR, I maybe should consider another option, if a better one exists. Can anyone here please advise? QR have less Carrier imposed charges. It adds up quickly. |
Recent experience. I have been playing around with the OW RTW tool for a while and I made the booking yesterday. I worked our exactly what we wanted using the tool. I spoke to BA (I am lucky enough to have Gold Guest List status for now). The agent advised me to send him the itinerary. He booked it, but had to call me with one slight modification (D class was not available on one sector, so we had to change dates). He then sent it to ticketing and it was issued a few hours later, on a BA ticket number. My Amex was charged in UK£ (even though the fare shown was in NOK). I was able to pick seats on all sectors via the various ariline web sites, using the PNR (he gave me the AA locator for the one sector). The only failure on seat allocation is a long sector on Fiji. We start in Olso as it saved us about £2.5k each vs. London (the agent was aware of this). (Thanks to FT for this piece of infromation). So far so good!
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Originally Posted by squeeler
(Post 36923891)
Recent experience. I have been playing around with the OW RTW tool for a while and I made the booking yesterday
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Originally Posted by squeeler
(Post 36923891)
The only failure on seat allocation is a long sector on Fiji.
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Originally Posted by henry999
(Post 36923966)
Interesting. When is your trip, specifically, when is your flight on FJ? The OW website still says "Fiji Airways will become the 15th full member of the alliance in 2025." I somehow missed the announcement of exactly when that status begins; it's good to know that these flights are now bookable on xONEx!
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Originally Posted by ernestnywang
(Post 36924312)
I suppose it was a Global Explorer fare instead?
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Originally Posted by henry999
(Post 36924446)
Do you think? If so, why wouldn't the OP have mentioned that, in a thread titled 'Ex OSL DONE4 help'?
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Originally Posted by squeeler
(Post 36923891)
Recent experience. I have been playing around with the OW RTW tool for a while and I made the booking yesterday. I worked our exactly what we wanted using the tool. I spoke to BA (I am lucky enough to have Gold Guest List status for now). The agent advised me to send him the itinerary. He booked it, but had to call me with one slight modification (D class was not available on one sector, so we had to change dates). He then sent it to ticketing and it was issued a few hours later, on a BA ticket number. My Amex was charged in UK£ (even though the fare shown was in NOK). I was able to pick seats on all sectors via the various airline web sites, using the PNR (he gave me the AA locator for the one sector). The only failure on seat allocation is a long sector on Fiji. We start in Olso as it saved us about £2.5k each vs. London (the agent was aware of this). (Thanks to FT for this piece of infromation). So far so good!
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Originally Posted by SP0
(Post 36923958)
All sounds good. Originally I used to call BA in the country of departure, then for a while they had a RTW desk in the UK, but today you need to find the right agent to get through the process. It is correct that they priced in NOK although as you used an Amex I hope they put it through into GBP (with a decent conversion rate) and you didn’t end up paying Amex’s extortionate international transaction fee - 3% if I remember correctly. It’s the one thing that puts me off using Amex for my international travel.
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Originally Posted by henry999
(Post 36923966)
Interesting. When is your trip, specifically, when is your flight on FJ? The OW website still says "Fiji Airways will become the 15th full member of the alliance in 2025." I somehow missed the announcement of exactly when that status begins; it's good to know that these flights are now bookable on xONEx!
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I am not sure of the exact fare 'title'. It starts in Oslo in Novemeber 2025.
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Originally Posted by squeeler
(Post 36926066)
I am not sure of the exact fare 'title'. It starts in Oslo in Novemeber 2025.
which allows you to use additional airlines, such as Fiji Airlines ps I'm intrigued: you're a Oneworld Ambassador; what does that mean? |
Originally Posted by pandaperth
(Post 36926135)
ps I'm intrigued: you're a Oneworld Ambassador; what does that mean? |
Originally Posted by pandaperth
(Post 36926135)
ps I'm intrigued: you're a Oneworld Ambassador; what does that mean?
Originally Posted by allset2travel
(Post 36926735)
Me, curious as well!
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I offered my services many years ago to answer questions on the flame free One World thread. I was most diligent in monitoring the thread at least weekly. Sadly the flow of quesions and my enthusiasm have waned.
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Originally Posted by squeeler
(Post 36926066)
I am not sure of the exact fare 'title'. It starts in Oslo in Novemeber 2025.
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Is there any way to ticket ex Oslo without AA or BA coded? Planning to credit to Iberia for OWE…
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Yes, use a travel agent
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