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mjack99 Oct 31, 2022 7:51 am

Getting around fare class D restriction
 
I suppose a stupid question but D class is not available for one of my flights in January and it is a very long one (DFW>SYD) so I am not going in Premium Economy. Apart from buying a RTW in F, is there any way of getting around this restriction (shame it is not BA as I would use a BA GGL space release)?

dvs7310 Oct 31, 2022 9:40 am

QF is VERY tight on D and even C inventory at the moment, still major capacity issues into and out of Australia from many countries. I've seen D on SYD-DFW, but couldn't find any to LAX despite having 2x SYD flights on some days, 1x BNE, and 1x MEL. I saw lots of days with only J for both LAX and DFW when I was looking last month. (Those were for December flights). Reckon it'll get a lot better once they get more A380s back online. I've also seen D on SCL-SYD, if you want to take AA down to SCL and connect.

If you can afford the extra segment, you'll have better luck getting AA 72 or 73 via LAX (sounds like you're going south, so AA73), sure it's not as good as QF, but at least they have wifi available, QF is still waiting on the next gen satellites before they invest, saying 'maybe' 2024.

mjack99 Oct 31, 2022 10:28 am

Thanks dvs7310, I wouldn't mind at all going via LAX and on AA (agreed not as good but acceptable) but AA also have nothing on 19 January (according to what I interpret on Expertflyer). This sucks.

Mwenenzi Oct 31, 2022 12:31 pm


Originally Posted by mjack99 (Post 34721245)
I suppose a stupid question but D class is not available for one of my flights in January and it is a very long one (DFW>SYD) so I am not going in Premium Economy. Apart from buying a RTW in F, is there any way of getting around this restriction (shame it is not BA as I would use a BA GGL space release)?

A DONE* ticket? QF DFW-MEL due to start 03 Dec 2022 (new route). But not an every day service. Only Mon - Wed - Sat.
As above QF flights have high loads. Some aircraft - routes have been changing. With QF only the A380 has F.
https://www.qantas.com/au/en/qantas-...l#where-we-fly

Mid January a busy time. Au tennis open (Melbourne) starts 16 Jan to 29 Jan, so very high demand

headinclouds Oct 31, 2022 8:43 pm

A similar question on a QR flight, DOH-VCE. EF has only J9 Y9, no other fare inventory. Is this a place holder flight? Also, what is the deal with CX flights with many fare inventory, but all 0.

mjack99 Nov 1, 2022 4:31 am

Thank you, Mwenenzi good to know and I forgot about the Australian open. Probably going to shift the trip to early Feb where there is availability.

Mwenenzi Nov 1, 2022 1:37 pm

QF8 DFW-SYD is also code shared as AA7262
For xONEx RTW's at times a prime flight (A D L) is not available but the code share is available. With xONEx swapping dates/flights on the same route is theoretically free of charge, but some airlines can charge a service fee.

dvs7310 Nov 2, 2022 10:18 pm


Originally Posted by mjack99 (Post 34721754)
Thanks dvs7310, I wouldn't mind at all going via LAX and on AA (agreed not as good but acceptable) but AA also have nothing on 19 January (according to what I interpret on Expertflyer). This sucks.

Here's a handy trick I've learned with both QF and AA (QR as well if they are a later part of your itinerary), they use a lot of married segment availability. For that week you mentioned, AA 73 if you just search LAX-SYD has nothing all week, but on Saturday the 21st and Sunday the 22nd, DFW-(LAX)-SYD has D available as a connecting flight. The OneWorld tool on their site can be tricked to doing it both ways in many cases (but not always, sometimes it gives a standby error).

flightbelt Nov 4, 2022 7:48 am

Wait, which flight are you trying to book exactly? QF or AA or happy to transit in Doha?

mjack99 Nov 4, 2022 8:35 am

Thanks, dvs7310. That is an interesting way to trick the system. I will keep that up my sleeve.


Originally Posted by flightbelt (Post 34732362)
Wait, which flight are you trying to book exactly? QF or AA or happy to transit in Doha?

It was 19 January from DFW or LAX>SYD. I will be on an RTW starting in BRU so Doha is not really and option.

Calchas Nov 5, 2022 2:23 pm

You could list for it while you make a decision. Revenue management will see it and they may decide to take the money.

mjack99 Nov 5, 2022 3:09 pm


Originally Posted by Calchas (Post 34735436)
You could list for it while you make a decision. Revenue management will see it and they may decide to take the money.

Listing is a new one on me, Calchas. What is that?

dvs7310 Nov 6, 2022 1:53 am


Originally Posted by Calchas (Post 34735436)
You could list for it while you make a decision. Revenue management will see it and they may decide to take the money.

Depends on how they are booking it. The OneWorld site won't allow waitlisting.


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