DL to acquire 20% LATAM; LA to exit OW
#16
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Initially I wasn’t too worried as my assumption was the QF/LA joint venture, codeshares etc would largely stand. Then I remembered DL has a fair stake in VA and I assume would want their new partner to work more closely with their existing partner rather than the competition
there’s not a huge amount of clarity but I am now basically planning a big South America trip for pre September next year just in case 😂
there’s not a huge amount of clarity but I am now basically planning a big South America trip for pre September next year just in case 😂
Here is a blog post from Gary at View From the Wing that has the salient points of the interview:
https://viewfromthewing.com/latam-di...told-american/
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I'm not sure what your OW status is now, but are you really positive that it means "that much" even now?
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#19
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Well, I have never been to Latin America, and I always thought that this is something I can do "in the future." Sure, I can do it anytime, but my oneworld status might not mean anything by the time I can visit Latin America.
Plus, if DL seems to have a tendency to ask SkyTeam members to cut ties with CX, i. e., MU and VN. We don't know yet if LA will join SkyTeam.
Plus, if DL seems to have a tendency to ask SkyTeam members to cut ties with CX, i. e., MU and VN. We don't know yet if LA will join SkyTeam.
Also, LA long haul availability has been consistently rare, so very slim chance of going to S.A. lie flat. Some intra-S.A. flights have no business class as far as I know, so it would not be worth too much CP to begin with. Lounges might be the only thing you are missing.
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Do you really choose what parts of the world you want to experience based on lounge access? Seriously?
Look, I play this game as hard as anyone and I love benefits, freebies, etc. but I never "let the tail wag the dog" in choosing the places I want to experience.
This announcement just has absolutely, positively zero impact on my trips to Latin/South America. I was going before and I'll continue going now.
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Look, I play this game as hard as anyone and I love benefits, freebies, etc. but I never "let the tail wag the dog" in choosing the places I want to experience.
This announcement just has absolutely, positively zero impact on my trips to Latin/South America. I was going before and I'll continue going now.
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#22
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I think we can all agree that the choice is personal, and I think either I was not expressing myself clearly, or you were over-reading my comments. I have no imminent plan to go to South America. I was just saying, for so many years, I thought that if one day I go to South America, I will be able to travel on oneworld with all the benefits, and now that thought will no longer hold, and I never expected this to happen. That's it.
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I think we can all agree that the choice is personal, and I think either I was not expressing myself clearly, or you were over-reading my comments. I have no imminent plan to go to South America. I was just saying, for so many years, I thought that if one day I go to South America, I will be able to travel on oneworld with all the benefits, and now that thought will no longer hold, and I never expected this to happen. That's it.
And for the record, I highly recommend you put South America on your radar, irrespective of lounge access, you won't regret it.
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#24
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Well, I have never been to Latin America, and I always thought that this is something I can do "in the future." Sure, I can do it anytime, but my oneworld status might not mean anything by the time I can visit Latin America.
Plus, if DL seems to have a tendency to ask SkyTeam members to cut ties with CX, i. e., MU and VN. We don't know yet if LA will join SkyTeam.
Plus, if DL seems to have a tendency to ask SkyTeam members to cut ties with CX, i. e., MU and VN. We don't know yet if LA will join SkyTeam.
As for LA joining SkyTeam, the scuttlebutt of the moment is they may not. Theoretically, DL May be breaking that mold, from their perspective.
In the meantime, there’s no current timeline for LATAM’s departure from oneworld at this time, though I’d not expect that to take very long once a date is announced.
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I wonder about whether it is a good idea to include any LA segments even though the xONEx tickets allow it. You buy a ticket now, then LA finally leaves OW, will they close off inventory to these tickets? I would assume that all OW benefits disappear once they leave OW, so mileage accrual or access to lounges, etc. Right?
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For mileage accrual, it depends on which FF you plan to credit. I believe the current codeshare partner such as QR, QF will still let you credit LA miles, but not AA. Since they stated they will maintain the current codeshare partner strategy. However, the lounge access might will be the issue if you happens to travel after their official designation from OW
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I wonder about whether it is a good idea to include any LA segments even though the xONEx tickets allow it. You buy a ticket now, then LA finally leaves OW, will they close off inventory to these tickets? I would assume that all OW benefits disappear once they leave OW, so mileage accrual or access to lounges, etc. Right?
#29
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LATAM to leave OW
https://www.oneworld.com/news/2019-0...ement-on-LATAM
LATAM advised oneworld earlier today of their decision to partner with an airline outside of the oneworld alliance. ...............
oneworld statement on LATAM
26 SEPTEMBER 2019LATAM advised oneworld earlier today of their decision to partner with an airline outside of the oneworld alliance. ...............
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