|
Youre right it does, but keep in mind that it's business and coach class only on that direct route.
|
You know, an up-to-date oneworld route map would do wonders for planning - not just what benoit has in mind. But this would be one huge map to ensure legibility. bedelman, sounds like you've got a decent software background - could you whip something like this up? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif Oh, and while you're at it a display of mileage per route would be nice!
|
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by mgm: You know, an up-to-date oneworld route map would do wonders for planning - not just what benoit has in mind. But this would be one huge map to ensure legibility. bedelman, sounds like you've got a decent software background - could you whip something like this up? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif</font> |
Please don't ask for a long explanation as to why I have this on my laptop. (Or more why I have only HALF of it on my laptop!)
Here is half of the answer for AA. I'll post the other half when I get home, since I know it's on the other computer. This is the side effect of trying to cut segments out of a ONE4, and not end up spending extra time in gateway cities. I like DFW, but why fly NYC-DFW-MEX when you can fly NYC-DFW-FAT-DFW-MEX, see, Fresno for no good reason, and have it only count as two segments? This is based on quick scans, bad OCR, and really really sloppy programming. No promises: it may be wrong, it may not work, it may cause harm to your unborn children. This is from the MAY 1 AA timetable, and reflects schedule changes that take place in June, which results in single flight numbers having two destinations. Here goes, Albuquerque to New Orleans. All flights are AA coded, origin listed first, destinations listed with flight number, aka pus nrt7264 shows AA7264 from Busan to Tokyo. No control has been made for code shares. abq bos2064 dca1786 ewr402 fll2056 jfk1796 msy1712 okc1892 anu phl1130 tpa1130 aua atl1298 dca1872 iad1884 tpa634 asu mia906 atl abq3097 aus2805 den573 dsm3047 fat631 hpn1484 lit3179 lit3037 mci2245 mci3143 msp756 okc1076 phx1039 sat443 sat2983 sjc2499 sxm687 tgu953 tus1185 tus817 yul744 yyz564 aus bdl578 box1496 bos1940 bur1325 cle3076 clt1718 jax1872 jfk1806 las855 lga1436 lga1454 lgb2405 msp2812 nrt61 oma318 phl360 rdu3036 san405 sfo1731 sjc2449 tus2017 bwi abq593 aua1331 dsm2871 dub7972 lax2363 lit3173 mci3117 mex571 pdx1807 sal925 sfo539 sfo637 slc2847 stt1785 bgi ewr984 mco984 pek lax7951 bze iad2194 iah2104 cnf dfw962 bhm iah1687 mty697 bmi mem5467 bog mco916 bos abq2815 bog915 den1021 dub7978 las1873 las1333 las1237 lax1891 lax1559 msy471 ogg161 pap1291 phx1061 phx1283 sat1855 sea1541 sjc505 sjo989 smf2823 sna1025 eze dfw908 bur bna782 cmh1432 clo ewr920 cun bos1604 bwi2192 dca2126 lax1108 phx1760 tpa2126 ccs dfw902 cid ict5659 clt cos1361 elp1695 oak1259 sfo1607 smf1765 smf1951 yvr395 ord mqt4332 ogg97 snn7976 cle cos2833 dsm3047 msp2965 okc2819 pdx2985 san3155 sat3137 tul2841 cos atl528 dca3010 mia3098 rdu1510 sat1314 cmh iad4044 lit3033 mex1111 msy1195 oma2943 pdx2977 pdx2919 sea3167 slc3005 tvc4154 ybr395 cgb gru7663 cur bdl1880 iad1880 dfw bdl494 cnf963 eze909 gig905 lhr90 lhr66 mad68 rsw888 stt671 day gsp4099 den atl316 bwi3190 dca2904 fll2958 fll3020 iad1846 iad3028 mco1415 pls625 tpa1122 dsm bdl2976 bhm376 bwi2906 cmh3168 iad3154 mdt4293 phl2804 sgf5722 dtw atl425 bna519 gcm1029 hsv1902 iah851 lax453 mco1523 msp1623 msp2895 sat2849 sjc2451 sjc3169 smf3153 sna1475 stx695 xna1721 dub bos7979 bwi7973 jfk7983 jfk7975 elp bdl320 bna1788 bos696 ind1210 lga370 evv fsm5505 xna dca1730 dca1988 ewr1094 grr4033 hpn1288 yyz798 fll den1155 lax2855 san1501 sfo2867 yyc2642 rsw nas5078 nas5076 slc1985 fsm evv5512 fwa okc4058 fat jfk1806 mex403 oma2006 gcm dtw1018 msy1746 grb cmh4200 gdl msy1040 msy574 phl574 san1040 gua dtw928 iad2128 iah2196 mco940 mdt cid4265 bdl aus1493 oak1463 oma3123 phx1593 phx3053 pls673 pty2131 san685 san1645 sat413 sat541 sfo1575 sxm1937 hel man6191 ito lih7887 hkg jfk6124 pen6105 iah atl812 bhm1848 box356 bwi410 dca1570 dsm1212 dtw1160 ewr2030 ewr1094 gua927 gua2195 hpn1484 ind1946 lga336 mci1278 mco1096 mem1534 mli5685 msp1238 ont1801 pty959 yul1020 yyz1956 hsv abq1171 mty1031 igu gig7688 ind lgb1709 lit3175 mia3002 oak1705 pvr323 slc2829 smf2823 smf1957 jax elp1079 sat479 mci bdl2976 bos2900 bwi2902 cmh3168 ewr1328 iah686 mia652 pvd600 pvd1948 rno741 sea1395 slc419 sna1627 tpa2944 tys pit4153 koa lih7881 lih7947 lih7862 lih7869 lpb mia922 lrm iah274 phl274 las atl1870 bos1136 bwi3126 cun1625 dca1640 fll3110 iad2862 lga766 mco1694 mco2048 nrt129 oma870 tpa508 bjx clt542 elp1286 ewr542 lih koa7884 ogg7945 ogg7932 ogg7918 ogg7896 ogg7949 lim bos2110 lit bos2998 bwi2868 cle3026 dca3114 dtw3016 ewr2874 iad2938 iad3154 rsw3158 lgw lax135 lhr auh6048 dfw109 mct6046 sea87 sfo47 ldb gru7678 lgb bze2193 lax bne7370 bwi1344 lga2466 mci2810 pek7954 pvg7952 pvg7950 scl7709 sju1963 sju244 sju1976 stl3040 tpa2822 sdf aus2841 msp2865 msp2873 msy2837 sfo1055 msn fsm5641 mad dfw69 mga den986 mco970 mqt ord4331 mde lga924 mem cmi5482 iah1303 msp344 mty1649 pia5479 mex bdl1110 bna1644 bna1156 ewr1110 mco1066 phl1066 rdu304 sea304 sea1156 mia anu1845 asu999 lih285 lit3037 mci2891 mvd943 nrt153 phx3149 vvi922 msp atl3086 bna1727 bna519 bna1230 dca1336 dca1584 dtw2880 ewr2855 hpn1288 hpn844 iah793 lit2963 msy3145 mty1031 mty885 phl1126 sat1527 sat1603 sdf2870 sdf2803 yyz1214 mfe atl812 bdl1576 day890 ict1768 mem1534 sdf1024 sdf550 mbj dca858 mty dsm544 msp1310 mvd mia900 yul atl581 bna1459 msp1481 sna597 mct lhr6045 zrh6331 bna abq593 cid5651 dca1448 dca1546 ict1883 lax2439 yyz1956 nas rsw5026 rsw5005 msy abq2055 cmh3186 cur1879 dca2972 dca3022 gcm1743 iah567 phl1364 san861 san1199 slc1647 smf1957 stx695 |
I am surprised that no one has suggested going to the public library and looking in the monthly OAG worldwide edition. It lists all the flights with intermediate stops in the back, grouped by airline.
|
I found one small error in mm9u great list
bos sat1855 AA1855 is actually RIC-DFW-SAT (or least for today) Look foward to the other half of the list |
Only one error? You're not looking hard enough.
Actually, it may not even be an error: the source for the data is the May 1st .pdf schedule, which lists flights both before and after a schedule change, apparently since changed, on June 14th. The flight may change sometime, but I'm not taking the time to read through the schedule to find out. My favorite find of the list, SJU-DFW-YVR, a 3900 mile transcontinental segment is no longer in the reservation system. Since I only get one transcontinental flight one a OWE, I'd like it to be a good one. Unfortunately, my OWE is a business trip, not a milage run, so discovering fun things like you can connect from Vancouver to Mexico through Columbus Ohio does me no good. (FAT and MCO not being on the transcontinental list makes for interesting possibilities if you are just burning segments.) Mark |
I was very interested to learn of LGB-BZE - I have been trying to get to BZE but not wanting to waster 4 sectors of my DONE4 from LAX.
I have a couple of questions: - - I can't seem to find the return BZE-LGB single flight - I assume that there is not guarantee that any of the combinations will allow a total 2 sector round trip? - assuming you can do it in 2 direct flights (hecne 2 sectors) do you earn miles between LGB and BZE in a straight line or do they count it total as actually flying through DFW? Just for my planning for my next DONE4. Thanks |
To answer the question on earning miles... you always get it for the direct distance between the end points on the ticket coupon, regardless of the route the plane(s) took to get there.
|
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by alect: - I can't seem to find the return BZE-LGB single flight - I assume that there is not guarantee that any of the combinations will allow a total 2 sector round trip? </font> This of course has nothing to do with airlines. They don't match, so my first example of JFK-FAT-MEX doesn't work: you can fly from FAT to JFK, but you can't fly from JFK to FAT. Now, on CX, for the most part, I can figure out the connections from looking at the route map, but on AA, I can't even figure out the simple flights. What I need is a reworking of airport pairs, so that I can see what the options are for transcontinental flights and the like. Time to work on sorting the list. I wish I had included mileage when I created it: I'm not sure the A to C is the distance you are credited with, since according to the AA .pdf file, the milage between city pairs may differ for different non-stop flights, and can be greatly different A to B than B to A. JFK and onward should be online in about two days, when I get back to the real computer. Mark |
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by mm9u: Only one error? You're not looking hard enough...</font> <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by mm9u: It would appear to make sense, that if you can fly from A to B on one plane, that you should be able to fly from B to A on one plane....</font> [This message has been edited by Mwenenzi (edited 05-20-2003).] |
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by mm9u: I wish I had included mileage when I created it: I'm not sure the A to C is the distance you are credited with, since according to the AA .pdf file, the milage between city pairs may differ for different non-stop flights, and can be greatly different A to B than B to A.</font> |
You will see the direct flights when you use the "build itinerary" function in the Electronic Timetable. With the City/Airport option, you only get the nonstop flights.
|
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by attorney28: You will see the direct flights when you use the "build itinerary" function in the Electronic Timetable. With the City/Airport option, you only get the nonstop flights.</font> LHR-SEZ is a flight that saves me a segment on my next AONE5. The only reason I found it was running a list like this. (Of course, that requires NBO to reopen....) LGA-TUL is another one, and no date I had ever fed into the timetable showed me that it existed. What I really need is a sortable list with miles credited, but I'm not to the point where I can create that. With the limit of 20 sectors, it has become critical that I keep counts down, and finding a way to make two flights into one makes that possible. Considering that the next trip has to include NZ (to pick up the kid) and Africa (long overdue promise), as well as the business that pays for the trip (NYC, LON, LAX, SYD) sector count is critical. Of course, I've handed this over to my slightly compulsive thirteen year old to figure out. I do the flying, he gets the miles, so I now let him worry about routings. He's really quite mad that the SJU-YVR flight doesn't seem to exist, he had quite a schedule figured out with that as the one trans-continental. My having to tell him that MCO is ORL is probably not going to help! I'll have the other half of the list on line sometime tomorrow, and maybe even in a usable, sorted fashion. I've got BA somewhere, and if anyone can get me a .pdf file for IB or WF, I can add them to the madness. Mark, who has taught more geography with airline schedules than the boys have ever learned in school. |
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by mm9u: Mark, who has taught more geography with airline schedules than the boys have ever learned in school.</font> -Ben, who has learned more geography from the Great Circle Mapper than I was ever taught in school |
| All times are GMT -6. The time now is 9:20 am. |
This site is owned, operated, and maintained by MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Designated trademarks are the property of their respective owners.