Need advice for AONE3
 

I'm going book the ticket (in June-July):

EUROPE:
1.CAI-MAD
intercontinental MAD-LIM

SOUTH AMERICA:
1.LIM-SCL-IPC
2.IPC-SCL-UIO
3.UIO-SCL
intercontinental SCL-SYD-HKG

ASIA:
1.HKG-DPS
2.DPS-HKG-CMB
3.CMB-BKK
4.BKK-HKG-NRT
intercontinental NRT-LHR

EUROPE:
2.LHR-DXB
3.DXB-LHR-MOW
4.MOW-LHR-CAI

I'm not sure about inetrcontinental segment SCL-SYD-HKG. Is it possible for AONE3?
And one question: Can I tear the Continent.

Thanks.

Routings look legal to me. Remember you have 4 free sectors not free flights. Your SA contains 5 sectors, your Asia 6 and your Europe 5. The only exception is if you continue within 24 hours on the same flight number. Expect to be charged a flat rate for the extra sectors.

Not sure what 'tear' a continent means.

From what I see... you can't jump from SCL to HKG via SYD. That would count it as a Continent. So the AONE3 has to be a 4.

You're only allowed 2 stopovers from your originating continent .. which is EUROPE (CAI is considered EUROPE in this case) so basically you'd have to cut out a few flights on the way home.

You're allowed only 4 sectors per continent. Any other you'd have to pay extra with the exception of the originating continent.

You can't do CAI & DXB on the same ticket.

Seems too many segments to me but would depend on the flight #s.

Scratching head but I seem to remember reading something about LA excluding IPC from these types of tickets, maybe it was just the Visit Chile product...

Even AONE*, you can book only Y class for a domestic flight of LA/LP/EI/AY.
So, IPC-SCL flights are not excluded, but must be booked as booking class Y.

First, you can do easter island. Second, you can do cairo and dubai on the same ticket. Third, you have too many segments. Fourth, from london, you can go to cairo *or* dubai *or* moscow, but *not* all three. Fifth, you get 4 segments, not four flights, not four sectors, four segments. A segment is a single flight number. So if you went from Cairo to Barcelona, that would be a segment. If you went from Cairo to Madrid, that would be a segment if you kept a single flight number, even if it stops in Barcelona and is actually two flights.

Assuming that you want to stop at all the place that you broke your list at and are not sensitive to a specific order, your itinerary will look like this.

CAI-MAD-SCL-IPC-SCL-UIO//LIM-SCL-SYD-HKG-DPS-
HKG-CMB//HKG-NRT-LHR-DXB//MOW-LHR//MAD-CAI

You will need to get your own tickets wherever the // is. So between Quito and Lima (which is about $150), between Colombo and Bangkok (which is about $200), between Bangkok and Hong Kong (which is about $200), between Moscow and Dubai (which is about $400), and between London and Madrid (which is about $75). Or you can take off some of those stops.

[This message has been edited by Darren (edited 03-11-2003).]

Thanks all.
Thank you very much, Darren!

Your info is very important for me. As your advice I changed my future route, that is:
...CMB//HKG-NRT-LHR-DXB-LHR-MOW//MAD-CAI.

I retained OW-fare as AONE3.

I don't understand this - you are visiting Europe, Asia, South West Pacific (Australia) and South America.

That is 4 continents not 3.

Moreover, Darren's comment implied you need a CMB-BKK ticket, but it looks to me as if you need a CMB-HKG, which will be somewhat more expensive.

Wasabi Tofu - is that a OW/LA rule or only applicable to LA flights that are one class?

christep:
Are you sure about my fourth continent - South West Pacific (Australia), but I have not planing stopover in SYD?

Yes. For ONE tickets if you touch a continent then you pay for it. Given that you are there you might as well have the four free segments and see something of AUs/NZ.

The only 3 continent grouping available currently is Europe/Asia/N America

Can I have ANY direct transcontinental OW-flight from South America to Asia for AONE3?
Second question - Are PPT and NAN valid for OW-Explorer?

There are no direct flights from Asia to S America on any airline that I know of.

PPT Is not possible because the Air Tahiti Nui codeshare is not allowed.

Er, ... is NA (Nadi)? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif


[This message has been edited by christep (edited 03-12-2003).]

A 3 continent ticket can not include South America. There is no legal way to do it.

PPT can be done if you fly from SCL-PPT and then make your own way to a South Pacific city served by OneWorld metal.

rich

Applicable to all One World Explorer fares such as AONE?, DONE?.
For example, LA833 from SCL to IPC has J/D for business class, Y/B/H/K/M/L/.. for economy class.
Even if you have AONE?, you can only book Y booking class for this flight.

What is the basis for this information? It certainly is not in the rules. Last year when I took this flight on a AONE5, I was able to book in business both ways. BTW, at that time the flight also had a single row of first but LA was not releasing that for others to book.

See recentlry posted URL and follow the One World Explorer and Booking Class links.

http://www.hardlink.com/~markdu/OWFiles/

http://www.hardlink.com/~markdu/OWFi...kingCodes.html

In this page, BOOKING CODES section describes clearly about LA/LP/AY/EI domestic flight booking classes.
Furthermore, I got same information from www.british-airways.co.jp (Unfortunately in Japanese), Airtariff book published in JAPAN.

OK. I changed my route to:
CAI-MAD-SCL-PPT-SCL-UIO//LIM-SCL-SYD-PER-SYD-HKG-DPS-HKG-CMB//HKG--NRT-LHR-DXB-LHR-MOW//MAD-CAI for AONE4.

Another question: I'm going LIM-SCL-SYD on 12/07/03, SYD-PER 17/07/03, PER-SYD-HKG 22/07/03, HKG-DPS 24/07/03 and DPS-HKG-CMB 27/07/03. Are its date possible for this fare.

This still doesn't work. PPT is in SWP not S America. As stated above you can only go to PPT if you then use a separate ticket (on Air Tahiti Nui I guess) to get to Aus or NZ.

Moreover, you can't do SYD-PER-SYD. Only one "transcon" is allowed in Australia, but you do have free segments, so you could do SYD-PER-DRW-SYD. Why not also go to AKL then get more time on CX on AKL-HKG?

CAI-MAD-SCL-UIO//LIM-SCL-PPT//SYD-PER-DRW-SYD-AKL-HKG-DPS-HKG-CMB//HKG--NRT-LHR-DXB-LHR-MOW//MAD-CAI

I don't understand your question on dates... if the flight schedule fits then you would need to check with a Travel Agent or the airlines for availability in A class on those dates.

christep: Thanks for your advise about Australia/NZ - Hong Kong.
About PPT - I know that it is SWP, but why I can't have flight SCL-PPT-SCL (LA 833/834)?
About dates - Is it apply minimum stay rule (10 days for all classes)?

Interesting. Thanks.

I'm glad I did the trip before LA changed the rules. One trip to IPC in a lifetime is enough. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

You can't go back to SCL after traveling to PPT because you would then be making two transitions between IATA Area 1 (Americas) and IATA Area 3(Asia/SWP). Only one is allowed. I suggest you give up on PPT anyway. It is tremendously overpriced. You will find DPS a much nicer place to spend some time in the sun if that is what you are looking for.

The 10 day minimum stay rule is for the entire trip, not each region. It looks like your dates are fine.

Not that bad. Remember it is for DOMESTIC flights. Since Easter Island is a domestic flight one is out of luck. Domestic flights in Ireland, Finland, Peru, and Chile (where these restrictions would apply) are not that long anyway. It is possible that most of theses domestic flights are one class only, something like American Eagle. In that case one can only book into that 1 class. I was concerned that a LA flight from LAX to LIM would be restricted to Y class only. Easter Island was not on my list of places to visit with a OWE anyway.

[This message has been edited by headinclouds (edited 03-13-2003).]