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Carfield Jun 19, 2002 9:36 am

Transit vs Stopover
 
Dear OW experts,

As you all possibly know, I am in the midst of planning a OW Explorer RTW ex-New ZEaland. I have a question --
1. As I understand, I can fly from NZ to Europe without counting Asia as a continental that I have traveled, if I only use it as a transit stop. What is the definiion of a transit stop? A stopover is another stop that is more than 24 hours, so am I correct to assume that a transit stop is a city that I do not stay more than 24 hours?

2. Therefore, if I fly from SYD to NRT on a daylight flight (arriving at 8pm), and fly out from NRT the next afternoon at 12pm, NRT will only be considered a transit stop. AM I right? Because I spend less than 24 hours there...

Thanks for any comments!

Carfield

chiym Jun 19, 2002 9:53 am

Yes that is correct.

A transit is any "stop" less than 24 hours so you will be able to arrive in the evening and depart the next morning and have it still considered a transit. On my OWE last year I flew into SIN in the evening and flew out the next morning. No trouble at all.

There is the caveat that a "stop" maybe considered a transit even though it is longer than 24 hours if it is the next available flight to your destination. However I'm not sure of the specifics of that; I'm sure there are others on this forum who would be much better qualified to discuss it and it doesn't apply in your case anyway.

Regards

Toxa Jun 19, 2002 7:36 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">5. TRAVEL BETWEEN AUSTRALIA AND EUROPE
ON A SINGLE FLIGHT NUMBER IS CONSIDERED
TRAVEL THROUGH 3 CONTINENTS.
SW PACIFIC-ASIA-EUROPE</font>
but


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">3. 1 INTERCONTINENTAL DEPARTURE AND 1
INTERCONTINENTAL ARRIVAL PERMITTED
IN EACH CONTINENT EXCEPT AS FOLLOWS.
- 2 PERMITTED IN ASIA. 1 MUST BE A
TRANSIT WITHOUT STOPOVER -OR- ON
DIRECT SINGLE PLANE SERVICE BETWEEN
THE SOUTHWEST PACIFIC AND EUROPE.</font>

lonman Jun 24, 2002 2:46 pm

when traveling from country to country, the transit stop is usually 24 hrs. within the borders of a country, use are usually limited to last flight in, first flight out. it is possible to even have that transit stop in you country of departure, i.e. nyc-mia-lhr.


Toxa Jun 24, 2002 4:42 pm

RTW is an international ticket. Thus, stopover rule is &lt;24h for all segments.

leroy11 Jun 25, 2002 4:57 am

Does anyone know if there is a reissue fee if you change a transit stop to a stopover? Could you just pay the tax at the airport?

JohnAx Jun 25, 2002 10:48 pm

I wonder how they control that? Usually it will be a free schedule change (no rerouting, no charge) but other times changing a transit to a stop will violate a rule, and the airport or res can't be expected to know which.

I've (theoretically - haven't seen the tix yet) planned a transit that cannot be turned into a stopover because I will already have used the two I'm allowed. Will they have printed "no stopover permitted" on the coupon or something?

daniellam Jun 25, 2002 11:56 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by JohnAx:
Will they have printed "no stopover permitted" on the coupon or something? </font>
They print either "X" or "O" beside (to the left of) the departure and arrival cities of each flight coupon. "X" means "connection" and "O" means stopover.



[This message has been edited by daniellam (edited 06-25-2002).]

ExMo Jun 26, 2002 8:37 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by daniellam:
They print either "X" or "O" beside (to the left of) the departure and arrival cities of each flight coupon. "X" means "connection" and "O" means stopover.
</font>
Not necessarily. As the only limitation on stopovers vs. transit is in the continent of origin not all tickets will have the x/o indicator. I just finished a RTW, hand written by AA, without any indications on connections vs. stopovers.

So long as you are not exceeding the limitation on stopovers in the originating continent, I don't see why there should be a charge, as you are only doing a date/time change.

JohnAx Jun 26, 2002 9:03 am

The other instance where stopovers are limited is the transit-through-a-continent rule.


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