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canucknz Jul 21, 2001 12:56 am

What's considered a stop?
 
W/ OW RTW, flying Bangkok to Cairo the flight routes via London. Is London considered a stopover?

Also, if taking the ferry to Spain from Morocco, would Spain count as a stopover?

[This message has been edited by canucknz (edited 07-21-2001).]

RTWSTARALLIANCE Jul 21, 2001 8:07 am

My understanding is that the first is not a
stop. A stop is longer than 24 hours. I
would check to confirm with AA or CX.

Darren Jul 21, 2001 10:50 am

canuckz, unless the rule recently changed, you can have unlimited stopovers in all the continents except for the one you start in. So it really doesn´t matter anymore except in very certain cases. For the most part, those would be when you are doing a 2nd transit though Europe or North America when you are coming back from Africa or North America, respectively. RTW is right, though, that a stop is over 24 hours.

RTWSTARALLIANCE Jul 21, 2001 11:44 am

You are limited as to the number of segments.
I had to pay for an extra segment in Asia.
I believe you get four segments at least in
Asia.

canucknz Jul 21, 2001 8:58 pm

Checking out the rules on fewmiles, I'm rather confused when it lists the stopevers permitted:

AFRICA 4
ASIA 5
EUROPE/MIDDLE EAST 4 - NO MORE THAN 2 OF WHICH MAY BE TO/FROM THE MIDDLE EAST
NORTH AMERICA 6
SOUTH AMERICA 4
SOUTHWEST PACIFIC 4

But then it goes on to say:

NOTE -

1/ A STOPOVER IS A BREAK OF JOURNEY IN EXCESS OF 24 HOURS.

2/ THREE FREE STOPOVERS PERMITTED IN EACH CONTINENT OTHER THAN THE CONTINENT OF
COMMENCEMENT OF TRAVEL.


Is it 3 or 5 in Asia?

Thanks,
-J

Guy Betsy Jul 22, 2001 1:52 am

That's the OLD rules. The new rules state segments of 4 allowed in each continent except for North America which is 6. You may stop at each segment. You may purchase additional segments within each continent for US$550 for First Class, US$400 for Business and US$150 for economy.

So let's just say you're flying from NY to LON. From there, you are allowed 4 segments to your next intercontinental departure point. So from LON-PAR-MAD-HEL-FRA then to BKK. In fact, that's 5 stopovers within Europe then.

If you open jaw, meaning fly into one city and surface, even though you have no flight in between, that is still considered a segment irrespective if any oneworld flight occurs.


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