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airbus320 May 15, 2000 9:44 am

Is OneWorld in trouble ?
 
There is a rumour on the street that BA is unhappy and considering moving closer to DL and AF. Canadian leaves the alliance 1 Jun and joins *A. AA has agreements with Qualiflyer. Is the OneWorld Alliance unravelling ?

Shareholder May 15, 2000 2:36 pm

STAR has certainly been more aggressive in promoting its identity to the public. Ads have appeared on international TV outlets, and in Canada, they fully sponsor a half-hour business report daily on CBC Newsworld. (Getting a little tired of that "aircraft painter" ad, and the new one about the FFer who leaves his bag at the curb after getting into a cab from a flawless trip through the terminal is just awful!)

Oneworld has never quite got its act together on the marketing front, even though its core carriers had code share and prior marketing alliances prior to forming the entity. Did they not appoint a marketing director to work out of YVR to plan major campaigns and initiatives?

If the BA rumour is true, then it would certainly spell doom for oneworld as we know it since BA owns a substantial portion of Qantas, another key oneworld partner.

Tango May 15, 2000 3:44 pm

If BA leaves OW, Swissair and Sabena would most likely join.

BlondeBomber May 15, 2000 5:40 pm

Maybe they could call it "Another World" or "As the World Turns". Maybe it will be the longest running soap on Flyer Talk http://216.167.74.240/forum/wink.gif

Dorian May 16, 2000 7:37 am

I thought OW had a mkting. office in Vancouver?

Dorian

Warrenlm May 16, 2000 10:23 am

I remember reading a boast on the AA website that someone made an award for "best marketing" to Oneworld. Not sure by whom. Nothing else was recognized apparently. These "awards" are always interesting...

bers May 16, 2000 11:54 pm

Dorian,

According to this article on CX's website OW FINALLY got their act together at the beginning of April.
http://www.cathaypacific.com/insidec..._20000331.html

ExecPlatGuy May 19, 2000 8:52 am

Although I do like BA, you would be able to get to most destination that BA serves with another OneWorld Partner (Iberia/Finnair) and not have to lose miles! The exception may be Africa. BA services alot of the cities I fly to in Africa and this is where I may be hurt! However, I have not done complete research yet (pending actual notification instead of rumors) and will find a way to get to my destination and earn my AA miles, as always!

Randy Petersen May 19, 2000 1:30 pm

While everyone assumes BA may be leaving OW for Delta, consider this - BA goes non-exclusive. While much of the talk has alsways been around the topic of alliances, there have been no rules that you can't be involved in a multitude of allainces. A great example is Alaska Airlines. They have quasi-alliance relationships with both CO/NW as well as AA. But I do like the suggestion of "As the World Turns" ....

airbus320 May 19, 2000 1:58 pm

You have a good point, Randy. A non aligned airline that enjoys the synergies offered by being friends with all.

Spider May 20, 2000 8:39 am

Randy, Airbus320:

Isn't that what SAS does? It is part of *A and is also partners with Qantas who is a memeber of 1W and earns miles there.

leroy11 May 21, 2000 9:08 am

Didn't SQ do this for a while? Cooperating with both DL and AA?

I think SAA does this:
ANZ, BD, LH, SAS, TG (Star Alliance)
SR (Qualiflyer)
DL (no name)

doc May 21, 2000 10:24 am

Now BA is seemingly headed for a KLM deal! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/confused.gif
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum15/HTML/000368.html


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