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R2 Mar 7, 2017 10:54 am

Circle Asia & South West Pacific
 
I'm planning some travel for later in the year and the Circle Asia & South West Pacific fare would seem to cover the countries I want to travel to. As expected, the base fares are not available on the oneworld website, nor on the airlines' websites. I tried calling CX but the first two agents had no clue about this.

The oneworld website page for this fare was last updated almost three years ago so this is obviously not a best seller for them :p

Does anyone here have experience using this fare or access to the base fares? I'm interested in the 13,000-mile fare in C ex-Philippines or Hong Kong but can be flexible with the start point. Thanks.

aaupgrade Mar 7, 2017 1:29 pm

DAS13 base fare ex-HKG is 4606 USD

DAS13 base fare ex-MNL is 4385 USD

Himeno Mar 7, 2017 11:51 pm

I've gotten a DAS13 each year since 2010. Booked via a travel agent and ticketed by QF each time.
The first time I was looking at it, I contacted CX about it (as I also get a DONE3 that pairs with the DAS13 and had been planning to have both ticketed by CX). CX refused to give a quote, claiming I had to talk to QF as the first sector operator. I had to start quoting fare rules at them to get them to give me a price.

henry999 Apr 2, 2018 5:45 am

Could someone with access to the numbers please check the current base prices for DAS13 and DAS17 ex-PEK, as well as DONE4 ex-PEK and ex-NRT?

Thanks in advance.

ernestnywang Apr 2, 2018 11:00 am


Originally Posted by henry999 (Post 29592842)
could someone with access to the numbers please check the current base prices for das13 and das17 ex-pek, as well as done4 ex-pek and ex-nrt?

Thanks in advance.

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fqpekpek-cx‡bd«                                               
bjs-bjs      cxr-cx      tue 03apr18                    cny 
//see fqhelp for information about the new fare displays//     
  surcharge for paper ticket may be added when itin priced     
cx    bjsbjs.ct      03apr18          mpm                   
  v  fare basis ap  fare-ow  fare-rt bk  season  minmax  rtg
  1    das13      ‡              36260 d‡  ---      3/12m ct01
  2    dcir22    ‡              38730 d‡  ---      5/12m ct02
  3    das17      ‡              42000 d‡  ---      3/12m ct03
  4    dcir26    ‡              46440 d‡  ---      5/12m ct04
  5    dcir29sa  ‡              49690 d‡  ---      5/12m ct05
  6    donewc3    ‡              65490 d‡  ---      -/12m ct06
  7    donewc4    ‡              74690 d‡  ---      -/12m ct07
                                                               
cx    bjsbjs.rw      03apr18          mpm                   
  v  fare basis ap  fare-ow  fare-rt bk  season  minmax  rtg
  8    done3      ‡              65490 d‡  ---      -/‡‡  rw01
  9    dglob34    ‡              74690 d‡  ---      -/12m rw02
 10    done4      ‡              74690 d‡  ---      -/‡‡  rw03
 11    done5      ‡              80440 d‡  ---      -/‡‡  rw04
 12    done6      ‡              88910 d‡  ---      -/‡‡  rw05
                                                               
*** there are no yy fares published bjs-bjs ***               
                                                              ‡
fqnrtnrt-jl‡bd«                                               
tyo-tyo      cxr-jl      tue 03apr18                    jpy 
//see fqhelp for information about the new fare displays//     
  surcharge for paper ticket may be added when itin priced     
jl    tyotyo.ct      03apr18          mpm                   
  v  fare basis ap  fare-ow  fare-rt bk  season  minmax  rtg
  1    das13      ‡            524000 d‡  ---      3/12m ct01
  2    das17      ‡            613000 d‡  ---      3/12m ct02
  3    donewc3    ‡            656300 d‡  ---      -/12m ct03
  4    dcir22    ‡            670000 d‡  ---      5/12m ct04
  5    donewc4    ‡            780400 d‡  ---      -/12m ct05
  6    dcir26    ‡            803000 d‡  ---      5/12m ct06
  7    dcir29sa  ‡            859300 d‡  ---      5/12m ct07
                                                               
jl    tyotyo.rw      03apr18          mpm                   
  v  fare basis ap  fare-ow  fare-rt bk  season  minmax  rtg
  8    done3      ‡            656300 d‡  ---      -/12m rw01
  9    dglob34    ‡            780400 d‡  ---      -/12m rw02
 10    done4      ‡            780400 d‡  ---      -/12m rw03
 11    done5      ‡            895200 d‡  ---      -/12m rw04
 12    done6      ‡            978200 d‡  ---      -/12m rw05
                                                               
*** there are no yy fares published tyo-tyo ***               
                                                              ‡


henry999 Apr 2, 2018 12:13 pm

Thanks, ernest.

Chalkie Apr 10, 2018 9:41 pm

Will this be a valid DAS 17,000 itinerary:

MEL-NRT (stopover)
NRT-CTS (surface sector; stopover CTS)
CTS-HKG (not sure whether this will be a stopover; I will be in HKG less than 24 hours, but overnight, so would need to collect my luggage and re-check in the next morning)
HKG-TPE (stopover)
TPE-HKG-SIN (transit through HKG; no stopover)
SIN-MEL

I am not certain of the operation of the provision in the Fare Rules which states "Only one interregional departure and one interregional arrival permitted in each region. Regions are defined as Northeast Asia/Southeast Asia/Southwest Pacific." I'm concerned that precludes my transits through HKG to TPE, as TPE is defined as Northeast Asia under the Fare Rules, so adding that to NRT and CTS would be more than one interregional departure and arrival. That said, HKG and SIN would equally be more than one interregional arrival and departure as well. The oneworld website gives an itinerary example of MEL-SIN-KUL-HKG-PEK-NRT-MEL. That's confused me as well, as SIN-KUL-HKG would give you two interregional arrivals (KUL and HKG).

Thanks for your assistance!

pandaperth Apr 11, 2018 1:39 am

Your itinerary is not valid
The web site sample itinerary is valid

There is a difference between inter-regional flights and intra-regional flights

An inter-regional flight is a flight that begins in one region and end in another region
An intra-regional flight is one that begins and ends in the same region

So, for example, MEL-SIN is inter-regional and SIN-KUL and KUL-HKG are intra-regional

Your itinerary has too many inter-regional flights between North-East Asia and South-East Asia (CTS-HKG, HKG-TPE and TPE-HKG)
Can you just fly CTS-NRT/HND-TPE? (these of course are intra-regional flights, not inter-regional)

ernestnywang Apr 11, 2018 7:11 am


Originally Posted by Chalkie (Post 29626747)
not sure whether this will be a stopover; I will be in HKG less than 24 hours, but overnight, so would need to collect my luggage and re-check in the next morning

If less than (or even equal to) 24 hours, it is a transit.

Wasabi Tofu Apr 11, 2018 9:08 am

FYI.
HKG departure tax is collected for overnight transit (less than 24 hours).

Chalkie Apr 15, 2018 8:13 pm


Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 29627150)
Your itinerary is not valid
The web site sample itinerary is valid

There is a difference between inter-regional flights and intra-regional flights

An inter-regional flight is a flight that begins in one region and end in another region
An intra-regional flight is one that begins and ends in the same region

So, for example, MEL-SIN is inter-regional and SIN-KUL and KUL-HKG are intra-regional

Your itinerary has too many inter-regional flights between North-East Asia and South-East Asia (CTS-HKG, HKG-TPE and TPE-HKG)
Can you just fly CTS-NRT/HND-TPE? (these of course are intra-regional flights, not inter-regional)

Thanks so much. Now I understand that, I can change the itinerary to CTS-NRT/HND-TPE, which will give me MEL-NRT; CTS-HND-TPE-HKG-SIN-MEL and that will work fine.

Thanks again.


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