Oneworld booking and pricing experiences
#721
Join Date: Jul 2007
Programs: QFF
Posts: 5,304
With QF12 out of JFK often delayed, connections to MEL can sometimes be missed with the flight released and MEL connections from JFK moved to the BNE or SYD flight upon landing in LAX.
Since you don't have a US transcon on the current plan, there is also the option of JFK-SFO-SYD, or if after September, SFO-MEL on some days.
QF fly BNE and MEL-NRT and SYD-HND, JL fly SYD-NRT and MEL-NRT
The QF BNE and MEL-NRT flights are day flights north, overnight south. HND is overnight in both directions.
JL has a day flight north from SYD and south to MEL and night flights north from MEL and south to SYD.
#722
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: ORD [formerly] + HKG
Programs: CX Diamond, AA exExPlat, BAEC exGold, HH Diamond, Hyatt Globalist, Starriott Titanium, GE
Posts: 2,966
It was TLV-HKG-MLE-HKG in one go - yeah just for points for that MLE turnaround. But regardless, I didn't have to present my itinerary before proceeding to check-in so it wasn't an issue.
#723
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Melbourne
Programs: QF WP
Posts: 188
Calchas was suggesting QF12 all the way through to SYD, ie -JFK-SYD-MEL-BNE-MEL-SYD-NRT
With QF12 out of JFK often delayed, connections to MEL can sometimes be missed with the flight released and MEL connections from JFK moved to the BNE or SYD flight upon landing in LAX.
Since you don't have a US transcon on the current plan, there is also the option of JFK-SFO-SYD, or if after September, SFO-MEL on some days.
QF fly BNE and MEL-NRT and SYD-HND, JL fly SYD-NRT and MEL-NRT
The QF BNE and MEL-NRT flights are day flights north, overnight south. HND is overnight in both directions.
JL has a day flight north from SYD and south to MEL and night flights north from MEL and south to SYD.
With QF12 out of JFK often delayed, connections to MEL can sometimes be missed with the flight released and MEL connections from JFK moved to the BNE or SYD flight upon landing in LAX.
Since you don't have a US transcon on the current plan, there is also the option of JFK-SFO-SYD, or if after September, SFO-MEL on some days.
QF fly BNE and MEL-NRT and SYD-HND, JL fly SYD-NRT and MEL-NRT
The QF BNE and MEL-NRT flights are day flights north, overnight south. HND is overnight in both directions.
JL has a day flight north from SYD and south to MEL and night flights north from MEL and south to SYD.
So thats why we are looking to come home via HKG....Currently we are doing DONE5's from JNB but the rand has moved dramatically against us so thinking we may need to start from HND and trying to see if its is allowable to come home via HKG
#724
Suspended
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: None any more
Posts: 11,017
#725
Join Date: Aug 2004
Programs: AA (EP), Hilton (Diamond), Marriott Bonvoy (Titanium)
Posts: 8,927
#726
Suspended
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: None any more
Posts: 11,017
What isn't fine as I understand it is HND-<Europe>-<N America>-o<Asia>-<SW Pacific>-<Asia>-<HND>.
Whether HND-<Europe>-<N America>-x<Asia>-<SW Pacific>-<Asia>-<HND> is fine may depend on who you ask.
Last edited by christep; Mar 6, 2018 at 8:13 am
#727
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Japan
Programs: NH Diamond, JL JGC Diamond, BA Gold Guest List(Gold for life), CX Diamond
Posts: 1,580
Current rule says:
4. FLIGHT APPLICATION/ROUTINGS
(e) Only one intercontinental departure and one intercontinental arrival permitted in each continent
except as follows:
1. Two permitted in North America.
2. Two permitted in Asia when one is for travel between the Southwest Pacific and Europe/Middle East.
3. Two permitted in Europe/Middle East for travel to/from/via Africa.
If travel is to/from Europe in both directions, itinerary may not include Mauritius/South Africa.
(e) Only one intercontinental departure and one intercontinental arrival permitted in each continent
except as follows:
1. Two permitted in North America.
2. Two permitted in Asia when one is for travel between the Southwest Pacific and Europe/Middle East.
3. Two permitted in Europe/Middle East for travel to/from/via Africa.
If travel is to/from Europe in both directions, itinerary may not include Mauritius/South Africa.
#728
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: used to be PER, now it's nowhere/eveywhere
Programs: QFF NB, AA GLD
Posts: 3,461
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Current rule says:
Current rule says:
4. FLIGHT APPLICATION/ROUTINGS
(e) Only one intercontinental departure and one intercontinental arrival permitted in each continent
except as follows:
1. Two permitted in North America.
2. Two permitted in Asia when one is for travel between the Southwest Pacific and Europe/Middle East.
3. Two permitted in Europe/Middle East for travel to/from/via Africa.
If travel is to/from Europe in both directions, itinerary may not include Mauritius/South Africa.
(e) Only one intercontinental departure and one intercontinental arrival permitted in each continent
except as follows:
1. Two permitted in North America.
2. Two permitted in Asia when one is for travel between the Southwest Pacific and Europe/Middle East.
3. Two permitted in Europe/Middle East for travel to/from/via Africa.
If travel is to/from Europe in both directions, itinerary may not include Mauritius/South Africa.
Therefore the itinerary will not be valid
#730
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Melbourne
Programs: QF WP
Posts: 188
Rang JL and they confirmed that this itinerary is in fact invalid so need to fly JFK-SFO-MEL etc....Thanks all for your advice
#731
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 57
Hey everyone, I started research for DONE4, I thought I share base fare with rest of you.
Airport BF Currency
cai $2,490 (USD)
alg $6,994 (USD)
nrt $7,140 (USD)
kwi $7,157 (USD)
amm $7,193 (USD)
tlv $7,200 (USD)
ktm $7,228 (USD)
OSL $7,272 (USD)
khi $7,388 (USD)
isb $7,388 (USD)
cmb $7,441 (USD)
ARN $7,481 (USD)
AMD $7,499 (USD)
jed $7,602 (USD)
ist $7,685 (USD)
doh $7,991 (USD)
mpm $8,034 (USD)
jnb $8,222 (USD)
dxb $8,506 (USD)
lca $8,528 (USD)
hel $8,528 (USD)
dme $8,528 (USD)
mla $8,528 (USD)
lhr $8,641 (USD)
bgw $8,750 (USD)
akl $8,976 (USD)
Source: ExpertFlyer ; pulled on Apr 28 2018
Can anyone advise if any better ex-pricing point exist, compare to what I have pulled?
Additionally, Can someone share details on why ex-CAI are invalid? I am curious what is the reason behind barring ex-CAI fare? I tried searching but nothing relevant is coming up.
Thanks,
Airport BF Currency
cai $2,490 (USD)
alg $6,994 (USD)
nrt $7,140 (USD)
kwi $7,157 (USD)
amm $7,193 (USD)
tlv $7,200 (USD)
ktm $7,228 (USD)
OSL $7,272 (USD)
khi $7,388 (USD)
isb $7,388 (USD)
cmb $7,441 (USD)
ARN $7,481 (USD)
AMD $7,499 (USD)
jed $7,602 (USD)
ist $7,685 (USD)
doh $7,991 (USD)
mpm $8,034 (USD)
jnb $8,222 (USD)
dxb $8,506 (USD)
lca $8,528 (USD)
hel $8,528 (USD)
dme $8,528 (USD)
mla $8,528 (USD)
lhr $8,641 (USD)
bgw $8,750 (USD)
akl $8,976 (USD)
Source: ExpertFlyer ; pulled on Apr 28 2018
Can anyone advise if any better ex-pricing point exist, compare to what I have pulled?
Additionally, Can someone share details on why ex-CAI are invalid? I am curious what is the reason behind barring ex-CAI fare? I tried searching but nothing relevant is coming up.
Thanks,
#732
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: DCA, EGE, IAD
Programs: MR LTT, BA Gold, AA LTP, UA Silver
Posts: 6,075
#733
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: SYD, YYZ, Southwest UK, a beach somewhere in the world
Programs: AC Prestige, BA Gold, SPG Platinum
Posts: 311
Hey everyone, I started research for DONE4, I thought I share base fare with rest of you.
Airport BF Currency
cai $2,490 (USD)
alg $6,994 (USD)
nrt $7,140 (USD)
kwi $7,157 (USD)
amm $7,193 (USD)
tlv $7,200 (USD)
ktm $7,228 (USD)
OSL $7,272 (USD)
khi $7,388 (USD)
isb $7,388 (USD)
cmb $7,441 (USD)
ARN $7,481 (USD)
AMD $7,499 (USD)
jed $7,602 (USD)
ist $7,685 (USD)
doh $7,991 (USD)
mpm $8,034 (USD)
jnb $8,222 (USD)
dxb $8,506 (USD)
lca $8,528 (USD)
hel $8,528 (USD)
dme $8,528 (USD)
mla $8,528 (USD)
lhr $8,641 (USD)
bgw $8,750 (USD)
akl $8,976 (USD)
Source: ExpertFlyer ; pulled on Apr 28 2018
Can anyone advise if any better ex-pricing point exist, compare to what I have pulled?
Additionally, Can someone share details on why ex-CAI are invalid? I am curious what is the reason behind barring ex-CAI fare? I tried searching but nothing relevant is coming up.
Thanks,
Airport BF Currency
cai $2,490 (USD)
alg $6,994 (USD)
nrt $7,140 (USD)
kwi $7,157 (USD)
amm $7,193 (USD)
tlv $7,200 (USD)
ktm $7,228 (USD)
OSL $7,272 (USD)
khi $7,388 (USD)
isb $7,388 (USD)
cmb $7,441 (USD)
ARN $7,481 (USD)
AMD $7,499 (USD)
jed $7,602 (USD)
ist $7,685 (USD)
doh $7,991 (USD)
mpm $8,034 (USD)
jnb $8,222 (USD)
dxb $8,506 (USD)
lca $8,528 (USD)
hel $8,528 (USD)
dme $8,528 (USD)
mla $8,528 (USD)
lhr $8,641 (USD)
bgw $8,750 (USD)
akl $8,976 (USD)
Source: ExpertFlyer ; pulled on Apr 28 2018
Can anyone advise if any better ex-pricing point exist, compare to what I have pulled?
Additionally, Can someone share details on why ex-CAI are invalid? I am curious what is the reason behind barring ex-CAI fare? I tried searching but nothing relevant is coming up.
Thanks,
#734
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: SYD, YYZ, Southwest UK, a beach somewhere in the world
Programs: AC Prestige, BA Gold, SPG Platinum
Posts: 311
SEZ BA rtw fare valid?
Does anyone know if the SEZ rtw fares loaded on EF are actually ticketable? I tried using the tool to go MLE-LGW to start so it would book on BA, but then every city turned invalid.
Last edited by ACN Consultant; May 31, 2018 at 3:41 pm Reason: Adding screenshot from ED
#735
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: London
Posts: 17,007