Oneworld booking and pricing experiences
Sep 5, 2018, 10:46 pm
#796
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: BOS/UTH
Programs: AA LT PLT; QR GLD; Bonvoy LT TIT
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Sep 5, 2018, 11:27 pm
#797
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: HKG/LON
Programs: QRPC-Plat/OWE, MPC, BAEC
Posts: 106
Sep 6, 2018, 4:01 am
#798
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: used to be PER, now it's nowhere/eveywhere
Programs: QFF NB, AA GLD
Posts: 3,464
Sep 6, 2018, 4:05 am
#799
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: used to be PER, now it's nowhere/eveywhere
Programs: QFF NB, AA GLD
Posts: 3,464
When I contacted Oneworld about the SABRE "quirks", I made no mention of ex-SEZ fares
Sep 6, 2018, 4:48 am
#800
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May I suggest that, for those of us who use these fares, we cease completely posting about them here? That will prevent a number of groups of people from picking up on them, -- 1) OneWorld and individual carrier staff, 2) bloggers, and 3) FTers who don't understand that chatter about these fares inevitably results in their elimination.
Last edited by Dr. HFH; Sep 15, 2018 at 7:15 am
Sep 6, 2018, 10:33 am
#801
Join Date: Aug 2004
Programs: AA (EP), Hilton (Diamond), Marriott Bonvoy (Titanium)
Posts: 8,937
I am sorry if it came across as vitriolic. There is always a tension between discussing such things and not, because once they attract notice they are gone.
IMO, with things like this, it's probably better not to do or say anything which is likely to result in OneWorld staff looking in this direction. I am aware of the routing quirks, and just worked my itinerary around them, changing my desired itinerary where necessary to accommodate the quirks. It's these same quirks, after all, which result in the online booking tool being useless.
May I suggest that, for those of us who use these fares, we cease completely posting about them here? That will prevent a number of groups of people from picking up on them, -- 1) OneWorld and individual carrier staff, 2) bloggers, and 3) FTers who don't understand that chatter about these fares inevitably results in their elimination.
As one who has been using One World Explorer fares since about 2008, I'll be happy to take the lead in setting up a private group for sharing information. We can use FB Messenger, Skype, Line, etc. And let's start right now. To respond to my suggestion, please PM me with your email address and I'll reply with mine. Seems like a good place to start. Remember, there are thousands of dollars per ticket on the line here.
May I suggest that, for those of us who use these fares, we cease completely posting about them here? That will prevent a number of groups of people from picking up on them, -- 1) OneWorld and individual carrier staff, 2) bloggers, and 3) FTers who don't understand that chatter about these fares inevitably results in their elimination.
As one who has been using One World Explorer fares since about 2008, I'll be happy to take the lead in setting up a private group for sharing information. We can use FB Messenger, Skype, Line, etc. And let's start right now. To respond to my suggestion, please PM me with your email address and I'll reply with mine. Seems like a good place to start. Remember, there are thousands of dollars per ticket on the line here.
Sep 16, 2018, 4:50 am
#804
Join Date: Aug 2017
Programs: BA Executive Club Gold, Hilton Hhonours Gold (also Marriot and SPG Gold)
Posts: 23
Ex-SEZ Routing
Does anyone know what the rule (or logic) preventing the above start to an ex-SEZ Itinerary is ? Would it also prevent SEZ-xDOH-AKL ? If not, I could go out via the US instead, but a flight from DOH would be preferable (and quicker).
Sep 29, 2018, 7:57 am
#806
Moderator, OneWorld
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: SEA
Programs: RAA RIP; AA ExEXP
Posts: 11,795
Statute, read the rules carefully and be conservative.
Oct 5, 2018, 9:11 pm
#807
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Melbourne
Programs: QF WP
Posts: 188
I have booked a DONE 4 ex HND with AA through their RTW desk....As part of my itinerary I have YVR-DFW-MIA-LIR. ( for July 2019 )...now it appears that there is no D availability on my preferred days ex YVR whilst if I ignore starting in YVR and have DFW-MIA-LIR there is plenty of daily D availability....It seems as if AA dont want to sell D ex YVR or Canada for that matter unless the connection is longer than 24 hours...I now have to spend 2 nights in MIA rather than just overnight.....This is the first time I have come up against this issue in almost a decade of flying this route ....my current DONE5 allowed this without an issue...AA RTW says its all got to do with "markets" !!!...Can anyone share any light into this situation and whether AA are reluctant to sell D inventory ?
Oct 6, 2018, 7:06 pm
#808
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I have booked a DONE 4 ex HND with AA through their RTW desk....As part of my itinerary I have YVR-DFW-MIA-LIR. ( for July 2019 )...now it appears that there is no D availability on my preferred days ex YVR whilst if I ignore starting in YVR and have DFW-MIA-LIR there is plenty of daily D availability....It seems as if AA dont want to sell D ex YVR or Canada for that matter unless the connection is longer than 24 hours...I now have to spend 2 nights in MIA rather than just overnight.....This is the first time I have come up against this issue in almost a decade of flying this route ....my current DONE5 allowed this without an issue...AA RTW says its all got to do with "markets" !!!...Can anyone share any light into this situation and whether AA are reluctant to sell D inventory ?
Oct 7, 2018, 4:50 am
#810
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However, there is D availability on codeshares YVR-DFW and, separately, on DFW-LIT on July 21. So what you really have is a married segment problem. You're going to need to talk to a human at AA.
Now, if you actually meant LIR, then you have a different problem. Sort of. There's codeshare space available YVR-DFW and DFW-MIA. Your real problem is the MIA-LIR segment. AA runs two flights daily except Tuesday, when the afternoon flight doesn't run. There's plenty of D space open, but no codeshares. Again, I think that your best bet is to call AA and speak to a human. You're looking for a three flight routing which has codeshare space on ⅔ of the itinerary and plenty of D space overall. Perhaps you can get someone at AA to free up the space you need....
Last edited by Dr. HFH; Oct 7, 2018 at 5:01 am