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MiamiPrep Mar 30, 2015 2:08 am

Must Circle Pacific 29,000 Include S/A????
 
I have booked a Circle Pacific ex-HKG, and was told if I exceed 26,000 miles I MUST include South America in the itinerary. But when I read the rules I don't see this.
I had wanted to fly HKG-BNE-SYD-WLG-(AKL)-LAX-MIA-DFW-HNL-NRT-HKG. But when I tried to book it that way the AA RTW agent told me I must include South American in an itinerary > 26,000 miles. The rules seem to indicate if you want to include South America you have to use the 29,000 mile product, but I don't see that the reverse is required. Please advise
Now routed HKG-SYD-WLG-(AKL)-SCL-EZE-MIA-DFW-HNL-NRT-HKG

Dave Noble Mar 30, 2015 3:19 am

The -CIR29SA fare requires South America

From the fare rules

Code:

FOR -CIR29SA FARES
          TRAVEL MUST ORIGINATE IN OR INCLUDE SOUTH AMERICA.
          TRAVEL MUST BE VIA THE NORTH/CENTRAL PACIFIC IN
          ONE DIRECTION AND VIA CHILE/ARGENTINA TO/FROM
          THE SOUTH WEST PACIFIC PACIFIC USING THE SERVICES
          OF QF/LA IN THE OTHER DIRECTION.


Himeno Mar 30, 2015 4:28 am


Originally Posted by MiamiPrep (Post 24587171)
I have booked a Circle Pacific ex-HKG, and was told if I exceed 26,000 miles I MUST include South America in the itinerary. But when I read the rules I don't see this.
I had wanted to fly HKG-BNE-SYD-WLG-(AKL)-LAX-MIA-DFW-HNL-NRT-HKG. But when I tried to book it that way the AA RTW agent told me I must include South American in an itinerary > 26,000 miles. The rules seem to indicate if you want to include South America you have to use the 29,000 mile product, but I don't see that the reverse is required. Please advise
Now routed HKG-SYD-WLG-(AKL)-SCL-EZE-MIA-DFW-HNL-NRT-HKG

The Circle Pacific fare is based on distance. It is only sold in 3 distance bands.
xCIR22, which can not exceed 22,000 miles;
xCIR26, which can not exceed 26,000 miles, and;
xCIR29SA, which can not exceed 29,000 miles and must include South America.

Great Circle Mapper shows HKG-BNE-SYD-WLG-AKL-LAX-MIA-DFW-HNL-NRT-HKG as 25,869 miles, but a 1-2% difference between gcmap and the airline distances is not unusual.

Gardyloo Mar 30, 2015 8:58 am


Originally Posted by Himeno (Post 24587459)
Great Circle Mapper shows HKG-BNE-SYD-WLG-AKL-LAX-MIA-DFW-HNL-NRT-HKG as 25,869 miles, but a 1-2% difference between gcmap and the airline distances is not unusual.

That would not be a valid route anyway as no Oneworld carrier flies AKL-LAX any more.

MiamiPrep Mar 31, 2015 1:51 pm

THANKS You Guys Are The Best !!!
 

Originally Posted by Dave Noble (Post 24587315)
The -CIR29SA fare requires South America

From the fare rules

Code:

FOR -CIR29SA FARES
          TRAVEL MUST ORIGINATE IN OR INCLUDE SOUTH AMERICA.
          TRAVEL MUST BE VIA THE NORTH/CENTRAL PACIFIC IN
          ONE DIRECTION AND VIA CHILE/ARGENTINA TO/FROM
          THE SOUTH WEST PACIFIC PACIFIC USING THE SERVICES
          OF QF/LA IN THE OTHER DIRECTION.


Thanks guys. I was reading from the OneWorld site:
http://www.oneworld.com/flights/mult...circle-pacific
And it's funny, I don't see the bit about S/A there. Sorry I didn't research adequately. I'm not sure where you got the fare rules, Dave. Confusing at times, & I think I'm quite knowledgeable about RTW's

Dave Noble Mar 31, 2015 2:39 pm


Originally Posted by MiamiPrep (Post 24596210)
Thanks guys. I was reading from the OneWorld site:
http://www.oneworld.com/flights/mult...circle-pacific
And it's funny, I don't see the bit about S/A there. Sorry I didn't research adequately. I'm not sure where you got the fare rules, Dave. Confusing at times, & I think I'm quite knowledgeable about RTW's

I looked on Expert Flyer. On the web page you mentioned , expanding the Terms and conditions it does state


Originally Posted by oneworld
Travel originating in or including South America is only permitted on the 29,000-mile fare. Travel must be via the North/Central Pacific in one direction and via Chile to or from the South West Pacific on Qantas or LAN in the other direction.

I think that it is not very well worded, but it does mention it


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