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Access Ready Reckoner:
* A "North American* Itinerary" for AAdvantage elites is travel on solely domestic flights within the U.S. or between the U.S. and Canada, Mexico (except Mexico City), the Bahamas, Bermuda and the Caribbean. A "North American* Itinerary" for Alaska Mileage Plan elites is travel to destinations in the U.S.A., Canada and Mexico (unless they are connecting to or from an international long-haul flight in a premium cabin on the same day).
§ Connecting the same day or before 6am the following day.
Qantas First Class Lounge for OneWorld Emeralds and First Class Travelers - opened late 2014
Qantas press release
Airside connector open from terminals 4, 5, 6 and 7 to TBIT - Feb 2016
LAX AA T-4 - TBIT secure airside connector open 25 Feb 2016 (AA forum)
2016 LAX Connecting / Connection / Connections thread
Updated 7 Mar 2017 - JDiver
For access just one of the following needs to be true:
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- Non US based (not AAdvantage and not Mileage Plan) oneworld Emerald or Sapphire tier traveling on a oneworld Marketed and operated flight.
- An AAdvantage or Mileage Plan of Sapphire or Emerald tier traveling on a oneworld Marketed and Operated flight NOT solely part of a "North American* Itinerary".
- First & Business Class passengers traveling on a oneworld Marketed and Operated flight not solely part of a "North American* Itinerary".
- Passengers on an itinerary which includes First & Business Class travel on a oneworld marketed and operated flight longer than five hours connecting§ to/from a domestic oneworld Marketed and Operated flight or an international short haul (five hours or less) oneworld Marketed and Operated flight.
- *Recent Reports indicate the following access is being denied with Patrons being redirected to the Flagship Lounge in T4*: First and Business Class passengers traveling on an American Airlines Marketed and Operated flight between Los Angeles & New York on three class aircraft.
§ Connecting the same day or before 6am the following day.
LAX oneworld Business and Qantas First Lounges
LAX / Los Angeles International Airport - Tom Bradley International Terminal (TBIT)
LAX / Los Angeles International Airport - Tom Bradley International Terminal (TBIT)
Location: Go airside via the North security check. Continue past the SkyTeam marked elevator / lift past the Star Alliance lounge signage and escalators to the main shops area and take the elevator to the oneworld Lounge on floor 5. (LAX / LAWA now allows passengers with same day departing boarding passes multi-terminal access.)
oneworld Los Angeles (Business) Lounge
Opening hours: Daily: 06:30 - 23:30
Capacity: ~400
AMENITIES:
Notes: The stylish and spacious Business Class Lounge has a contemporary design reflecting Californian culture, combined with signature elements from each airline, built around a communal fireplace and central glass atrium providing natural light. In the lounge's dining area, customers can choose from menus, designed by renowned Qantas chef Neil Perry, based on signature Qantas Lounge favourites with influences of multicultural California, including Italian, Mexican, Japanese, Chinese, Korean and US West Coast street food. Californian food carts similar to the pop-up dining concept offer freshly prepared dishes. At the cocktail bar, customers can select signature cocktails or premium wines, or have the barista create the coffee of their choice. The lounge also offers an enhanced hot and cold buffet, faster WiFi, new workstations and sixteen shower suites with Aurora Spa amenities.
Opening hours: Daily: 06:30 - 23:30
Capacity: ~400
AMENITIES:
- Computer connected to Internet
- Neil Perry dining and buffet (hot, cold, food carts)
- Full staffed bar and made to order mixed drinks
- Barista and coffee selections
- Shower suites (16)
Notes: The stylish and spacious Business Class Lounge has a contemporary design reflecting Californian culture, combined with signature elements from each airline, built around a communal fireplace and central glass atrium providing natural light. In the lounge's dining area, customers can choose from menus, designed by renowned Qantas chef Neil Perry, based on signature Qantas Lounge favourites with influences of multicultural California, including Italian, Mexican, Japanese, Chinese, Korean and US West Coast street food. Californian food carts similar to the pop-up dining concept offer freshly prepared dishes. At the cocktail bar, customers can select signature cocktails or premium wines, or have the barista create the coffee of their choice. The lounge also offers an enhanced hot and cold buffet, faster WiFi, new workstations and sixteen shower suites with Aurora Spa amenities.
Qantas First Lounge
Opening hours: Daily: 06:30 - 23:30
Capacity: ~200
AMENITIES:
Notes: The Qantas Los Angeles First Lounge defines a new standard of luxury and sophistication for First and eligible premium customers travelling through LAX. The spacious, light and open plan lounge is three times the size of the previous First Lounge. The lounge features a 74-seat a la carte restaurant, Californian Knoll furniture selected by Marc Newson, including 12 Eero Saarinen Womb Chairs with matching ottomans, 2 private work suites that can open into one larger private meeting room, state of the art wi-fi, wireless printing capabilities, TVs equipped with cable television and 7 dedicated shower suites, complete with Aurora Spa products. The a la carte Rockpool menu has been designed by Neil Perry, featuring signature dishes from the Qantas flagship Sydney and Melbourne lounges, as well as locally inspired LA cuisine. Menus will change seasonally, every 3 months. Access to First Class Lounges is restricted to Emerald members or those travelling in First Class.
Opening hours: Daily: 06:30 - 23:30
Capacity: ~200
AMENITIES:
- Computer connected to Internet
- Neil Perry restaurant (74 seats, a la carte dining)
- Full staffed bar and made to order mixed drinks
- Barista with coffee selections
- Shower suites (7)
- Business suites (2 - can be combined for conference room)
- Shirt pressing (First)
Notes: The Qantas Los Angeles First Lounge defines a new standard of luxury and sophistication for First and eligible premium customers travelling through LAX. The spacious, light and open plan lounge is three times the size of the previous First Lounge. The lounge features a 74-seat a la carte restaurant, Californian Knoll furniture selected by Marc Newson, including 12 Eero Saarinen Womb Chairs with matching ottomans, 2 private work suites that can open into one larger private meeting room, state of the art wi-fi, wireless printing capabilities, TVs equipped with cable television and 7 dedicated shower suites, complete with Aurora Spa products. The a la carte Rockpool menu has been designed by Neil Perry, featuring signature dishes from the Qantas flagship Sydney and Melbourne lounges, as well as locally inspired LA cuisine. Menus will change seasonally, every 3 months. Access to First Class Lounges is restricted to Emerald members or those travelling in First Class.
LAX TBIT oneworld lounges access rules: (v. Feb 25, 2016)
oneworld Business Lounge operated by Qantas
Please note this is not a Qantas Club and is not part of any recipripocity agreement with Admirals Clubs. Must be Sapphire or Business class passenger on a oneworld marketed and operated carrier ("qualifying flight") and
Qantas - oneworld First Lounge
Must be Emerald or First class passenger on a oneworld marketed and operated carrier ("qualifying flight") and
Link to one world lounge access rules and lounge locator
oneworld Business Lounge operated by Qantas
Please note this is not a Qantas Club and is not part of any recipripocity agreement with Admirals Clubs. Must be Sapphire or Business class passenger on a oneworld marketed and operated carrier ("qualifying flight") and
- Departing on a longhaul international flight, or
- Departing on a oneworld flight, having arrived on a qualifying longhaul international flight, or
- Departing in First or Business on AA to JFK on a 3 cabin A321T aircraft.
- A Qantas Club member (no AA Admirals Club reciprocity, however)
- "Some lounges may get busy at peak times, and access to them may be restricted as a result."
Qantas - oneworld First Lounge
Must be Emerald or First class passenger on a oneworld marketed and operated carrier ("qualifying flight") and
- Departing on a longhaul international flight, or
- Departing on a oneworld flight, having arrived on a qualifying longhaul international flight, or
- Departing in First on AA to JFK on a 3 cabin A321T.
Link to one world lounge access rules and lounge locator
Qantas press release
Airside connector open from terminals 4, 5, 6 and 7 to TBIT - Feb 2016
LAX AA T-4 - TBIT secure airside connector open 25 Feb 2016 (AA forum)
2016 LAX Connecting / Connection / Connections thread
Updated 7 Mar 2017 - JDiver
LAX - TBIT oneworld Lounge Access (Combined thread)
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I would not call the staff idiots.
I would suggest the rules can seem complex to some employees and often retraining is required - especially when staff had been instructed by managers who themselves misinterpreted the access rules.
I would suggest the rules can seem complex to some employees and often retraining is required - especially when staff had been instructed by managers who themselves misinterpreted the access rules.
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OWE non-aa get access on any oneworld ticket. the end. that is not complex at all.
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QF/OW lounge access with separate PNRs?
I'll be arriving LAX on a CX flight from HKG in coach. A few hours later I'll be departing LAX on an AA flight in coach. The two flights are on separate PNRs. As a OWE will I have access to either the OW lounge or QF F lounge in TBIT based on the inbound international flight rule for lounge access? Or do the separate PNRs disqualify me?
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There are no single PNR/ticket caveats in the oneworld rules for lounge entry based on longhaul (over 5 hours) flights connecting with shorthaul. Lounge entry should be available.
To avoid confusion, make sure you present your CX HKG-LAX BP and your AA BP together.
To avoid confusion, make sure you present your CX HKG-LAX BP and your AA BP together.
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Given that AA EXP do not have automatic lounge access for USA domestic flights, but do have access if the domestic flight is continuing from an international long haul, presentation of both boarding passes would be expected. I don't recall any specific verbiage in the AA "rules" requiring that both segments be in the same PNR, but I suspect that they would be expected to be a "normal" connection.
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I am a AA Platinum traveling with a companion (AA Gold) from NRT to LAX (AA metal) and LAX to PHX (also AA metal). Will we have trouble getting into the OW LAX TBIT BUSINESS lounge on our layover between flights? I see most people getting hassled by the first class lounge not a lot of stories on the business class lounge...
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I am a AA Platinum traveling with a companion (AA Gold) from NRT to LAX (AA metal) and LAX to PHX (also AA metal). Will we have trouble getting into the OW LAX TBIT BUSINESS lounge on our layover between flights? I see most people getting hassled by the first class lounge not a lot of stories on the business class lounge...
- AAdvantage Executive Platinum & Platinum tier traveling on a oneworld Marketed and Operated flight NOT solely part of a "North American* Itinerary".
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Eligible PAX can be denied at any time but with these lounges it's generally in relation to misinformed staff.
I suggest since the utter debacle last year when they were given incorrect instruction, most staff seem to correctly know the rules.
That is not to say there won't be isolated issues going forward.
What can you really do? Not try to access on the basis of a remote chance of being denied?
I suggest since the utter debacle last year when they were given incorrect instruction, most staff seem to correctly know the rules.
That is not to say there won't be isolated issues going forward.
What can you really do? Not try to access on the basis of a remote chance of being denied?
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Eligible PAX can be denied at any time but with these lounges it's generally in relation to misinformed staff.
I suggest since the utter debacle last year when they were given incorrect instruction, most staff seem to correctly know the rules.
That is not to say there won't be isolated issues going forward.
What can you really do? Not try to access on the basis of a remote chance of being denied?
I suggest since the utter debacle last year when they were given incorrect instruction, most staff seem to correctly know the rules.
That is not to say there won't be isolated issues going forward.
What can you really do? Not try to access on the basis of a remote chance of being denied?
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First time poster, long time lurker. I'll be flying AA/FJ DFW-LAX-NAN in economy as a OW Sapphire (AA PLT). My question is, will this permit me to use the OW Lounge in LAX? Not sure if OW Connect member FJ qualifies me to use the lounge? Thanks.