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Himeno Nov 15, 2013 12:06 am

xONEx musing
 
Is it possible to have an xONEx with at least one sector on each member airline? If so, what's the longest routing possible?

Guy Betsy Nov 15, 2013 8:06 am

If money is no object, then its a xONE6. And I am sure you can figure the routings out yourself.

Kiwi Flyer Nov 16, 2013 4:27 pm


Originally Posted by Himeno (Post 21788444)
Is it possible to have an xONEx with at least one sector on each member airline? If so, what's the longest routing possible?

Yes you can on a xONE4.

Now extra segments can't be purchased you have to make use of various 5th freedom flights.

Gardyloo Nov 16, 2013 6:10 pm

I'm skeptical; I think there are too many European/ME carriers to fit into 4 Euro segments + intercontinental. (AB, AY, BA, IB, QR, RJ, S7). Maybe I'm missing something.

Kiwi Flyer Nov 16, 2013 7:20 pm

Here is a sample xONE4 itinerary which I think includes all current OW airlines.

1) LA AKL-SYD
2) QF SYD-PVG
3) KA PVG-HKG
4) RJ HKG-BKK
5) QR BKK-HAN
6) JL HAN-NRT
7) MH NRT-LAX
8) AA LAX-JFK
9) AB JFK-DUS
10) IB DUS-MAD
11) S7 MAD-DME
12) AY DME-HEL
13) BA HEL-LHR
14) BA or CX LHR-HKG
15) CX HKG-AKL
16) spare

Mwenenzi Nov 16, 2013 8:41 pm

MM shows " Error!!! No oneworld service exists DME-HEL" but that does not mean its wrong

Kiwi Flyer Nov 16, 2013 8:58 pm


Originally Posted by Mwenenzi (Post 21797855)
MM show an error " Error!!! No oneworld service exists DME-HEL" but that does mean its wrong

S7 starts service 26 April 2014 according to their website.

I'm sure there are other ways of routing it given how little effort it took to put this one together. S7 and AB seems to be the most difficult to fit in.

Mwenenzi Nov 16, 2013 9:04 pm


Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer (Post 21797917)
S7 starts service 26 April 2014 according to their website.

But thats ~6 months away, not now :)

Kiwi Flyer Nov 16, 2013 9:11 pm


Originally Posted by Mwenenzi (Post 21797939)
But thats ~6 months away, not now :)

With a few tweaks, how about the following?

1) LA AKL-SYD
2) QF SYD-PVG
3) KA PVG-HKG
4) RJ HKG-BKK
5) QR BKK-HAN
6) JL HAN-NRT
7) MH NRT-LAX
8) AA LAX-JFK
9) AB JFK-DUS
10) IB DUS-MAD
11) S7 MAD-DME
12) BA DME-LHR
13) AY LHR-HEL
14) AY HEL-HKG
15) CX HKG-AKL
16) spare

Reality_Czech Nov 17, 2013 6:36 pm

What fun!

Itinerary including 2014 future OW members......decided that TAM counts as LAN Brazil. Could remove Dragonair which is just an affiliate member, but could not work out an itinerary to include JJ and LA plus UL and US.

1. AUH-AB-HKT
2. HKT-KA-HKG
3. HKG-RJ-BKk
4. BKK-UL-PVG
5. PVG-JL-NRT
6. NRT-MH-LAX
7. LAX-AA-PHX
8. PHX-US-YVR
9. YVR-CX-JFK
10. JFK-JJ-GRU
11. GRU-QR-EZE
12. EZE-IB-MAD
13. MAD-AY-HEL
14. HEL-S7-DME
15. DME-BA-LHR
16. LHR-QF-DXB

JohnAx Nov 19, 2013 12:20 am

Why would anyone fly S7 if there was an alternative?

Mwenenzi Nov 19, 2013 12:41 am


Originally Posted by JohnAx (Post 21810862)
Why would anyone fly S7 if there was an alternative?

Because the question is

Originally Posted by Himeno (Post 21788444)
Is it possible to have an xONEx with at least one sector on each member airline? If so, what's the longest routing possible?


Himeno Nov 19, 2013 1:24 am


Originally Posted by Gardyloo (Post 21797379)
I'm skeptical; I think there are too many European/ME carriers to fit into 4 Euro segments + intercontinental. (AB, AY, BA, IB, QR, RJ, S7). Maybe I'm missing something.

I was thinking the same thing. I think the key would be using one for NA/SA-EU, another for EU-Asia/Africa and making using the RJ or BA 5th freedom sectors outside Europe.

Most likely will be mostly hub to hub flights, perhaps including something like -DOH-AMM-MAD-DME-

Gardyloo Nov 19, 2013 8:08 am


Originally Posted by Himeno (Post 21811048)
I was thinking the same thing. I think the key would be using one for NA/SA-EU, another for EU-Asia/Africa and making using the RJ or BA 5th freedom sectors outside Europe.

Most likely will be mostly hub to hub flights, perhaps including something like -DOH-AMM-MAD-DME-

No, Kiwi took care of it by using 5th Freedom flights (several of which I didn't know existed.) The key was in avoiding some of the Euro/ME hubs if possible.

skunker Nov 19, 2013 10:18 am


Originally Posted by Himeno (Post 21811048)
I was thinking the same thing. I think the key would be using one for NA/SA-EU, another for EU-Asia/Africa and making using the RJ or BA 5th freedom sectors outside Europe.

Most likely will be mostly hub to hub flights, perhaps including something like -DOH-AMM-MAD-DME-

QR has some random 5th freedom flights in EU, Asia, and one in SA, too.


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