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Help booking EDI->SIN-MEL->EDI
Hi all,
My partner and I are returning to OZ this year. I will be going one way from EDI, stop over in SIN then to MEL. My partner will do the same but needs a return MEL -> EDI for around the first week in March. We would like to use Oneworld as I am OW Sapphire (AA Platinum) and my partner wants to join AA by doing the Challenge, so that she gets Sapphire as she will be doing a few MEL -> EDI and MEL -> (USA) next year. Can any one suggest what the best / cheapest options will be that will help us get the two fares with a minimum of 10,000 qualifying miles for the outbound flights.... Thanks! |
BA booking EDI-LHR-SIN-MEL with SIN-MEL on a BA codeshare QF flight.
AY may be another option. I would suggest you just play around with ITA Matrix and the "/alliance oneworld" option. Any option will be over 10,000 miles. |
Originally Posted by nux
(Post 21523682)
BA booking EDI-LHR-SIN-MEL with SIN-MEL on a BA codeshare QF flight.
AY may be another option. I would suggest you just play around with ITA Matrix and the "/alliance oneworld" option. Any option will be over 10,000 miles. Depends on the booking class OP needs to look at the BA earning chart on aa.com to know this (or the AY earning chart if flying AY) |
Thanks for the responses.
BA is VERY expensive. We are talking £2,500+ for return economy. Sure for this we will get well over 10,000 qualifying miles (as they will be economy flexible fares for what is available) but we are hoping to get the flights for more like £1,000 - £1,500 return. I checked out Malaysia airlines but they only offer LHR return, not EDI. They are around £1,500 for the LHR / MEL return (with the SIN stop over) so would have to add another £150 ish for EDI -> LHR return. Not a bad option but was hoping to be able to fine others... The only problem with them is some fares are non qualifying miles so would get 0....Now I think these flights are actually 50% or 100% qualifying so might work... I also tried Qantas and can get return for around £1,500 but the majority of the flights are emirates metal so assume that these will not get qualifying miles. I tried the matrix and could find good fares ex IST for example but was hoping someone might have other ideas i have not thought about..... So, I guess what I am trying to say is its not as simple as just booking OW due to the Qualifying miles concern and / or the cost.... |
If you are trying to do this and complete an gold or platinum challenge on AA then you should be asking this in the elite status challenge help desk thread on the AA forum:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...-platinum.html That said even though MH earns as a oneworld member now I don't think that this will help with the gold or plat challenges unless you are able to fly an AA codeshare: As of January 2007, only flights marketed by AA (with an AA flight number) are eligible for earning points that count towards the completion of a Challenge. You can still fly on a non-AA metal flight operated by a partner, but you must make sure that you have booked it with an AA codeshare flight number. (Previously, points earned on partner-marketed flights were eligible, but that is no longer the case). UPDATE: As of July 2012, flights marketed and operated by certain partners will also be eligible to earn points that count toward the completion of a Challenge: British Airways, Iberia, Japan Airlines and Qantas. (Cathay Pacific is notably missing.) The specific language from the challenge confirmation says "And now you have more opportunities to complete your Challenge because points earned on qualifying flights on American Airlines, American Eagle, the AmericanConnection® carrier, British Airways, Iberia, Japan Airlines, Qantas and their eligible codeshare flights count toward your Challenge." Again the AA forum should be able to help. |
Originally Posted by savitar
(Post 21524440)
BA is VERY expensive. We are talking £2,500+ for return economy. Sure for this we will get well over 10,000 qualifying miles (as they will be economy flexible fares for what is available) but we are hoping to get the flights for more like £1,000 - £1,500 return.
Originally Posted by savitar
(Post 21524440)
I checked out Malaysia airlines but they only offer LHR return, not EDI. They are around £1,500 for the LHR / MEL return (with the SIN stop over) so would have to add another £150 ish for EDI -> LHR return.
Originally Posted by savitar
(Post 21524440)
I also tried Qantas and can get return for around £1,500 but the majority of the flights are emirates metal so assume that these will not get qualifying miles.
Originally Posted by savitar
(Post 21524440)
I tried the matrix and could find good fares ex IST for example but was hoping someone might have other ideas i have not thought about.....
So, I guess what I am trying to say is its not as simple as just booking OW due to the Qualifying miles concern and / or the cost.... Your current requirements are: Code:
Ticket 1: EDI-SIN, stopover, SIN-MEL.If you relax the qualifying miles part, I still think BA is going to be the cheapest option with some flexibility on dates. If you relax the Singapore stopover option, this will open up some extra options but still unlikely to meet the qualifying miles requirement. |
Originally Posted by nux
(Post 21527698)
What are your dates? BA should be about half that price if you are somewhat flexible with dates.
Originally Posted by nux
(Post 21527698)
I'm assuming this is with a KUL stopover rather than SIN. MH is non-earning for the AA challenge.
Originally Posted by nux
(Post 21527698)
QF flies LHR-DXB-SYD/MEL. So not really an option unless you get an QF codeshare on Emirates metal for part of the journey, which will be non-qualifying.
Originally Posted by nux
(Post 21527698)
You really need to decide on your requirements, as at the moment all of them are impossible.
Your current requirements are: Code:
Ticket 1: EDI-SIN, stopover, SIN-MEL.If you relax the qualifying miles part, I still think BA is going to be the cheapest option with some flexibility on dates. If you relax the Singapore stopover option, this will open up some extra options but still unlikely to meet the qualifying miles requirement. What I was looking at yesterday was basic return EDI -> MEL and can get 6th Jan - 8th March for about £1,200 BUT there MUST be a stop over on the way over (don't ask, its too long a story) and as soon as I add a stop over the price seems to go up to £2,500....Can you book a non stop over then add one after booking? Is the only way to book a stop over is to go through the multi - leg part of the booking? Also, with the oneway leg, if booking a return is cheaper, then great, happy to do that. I don't believe Singapore is mandatory so HK / KL / Bangkok etc could all be quite possible. Any thoughts appreciated. |
Originally Posted by savitar
(Post 21527970)
We are very flexible. Leaving anywhere from 25th Dec to around 8th of Jan, returning around 1st / 2nd week in March (for the return leg)
What I was looking at yesterday was basic return EDI -> MEL and can get 6th Jan - 8th March for about £1,200 BUT there MUST be a stop over on the way over (don't ask, its too long a story) and as soon as I add a stop over the price seems to go up to £2,500....Can you book a non stop over then add one after booking? Is the only way to book a stop over is to go through the multi - leg part of the booking? I don't believe Singapore is mandatory so HK / KL / Bangkok etc could all be quite possible. £1457 with AY flying: EDI-LHR-HEL-HKG-MEL return with stopover in HKG £1548 with BA flying: EDI-LHR-HKG-MEL return with stopover in HKG If you book ex-London there are some additional options for around the same price. All found using the ITA Matrix multi-city tool. There are some Qantas options but with DXB-SIN on Emirates metal (QF code), not sure if that would qualify, I assume it wouldn't. Depending on the fare rules, a stopover may be added at additional cost subject to availability. However best to book it as you want upfront. ITA Matrix will handle this if you use the multi-city tool. |
Originally Posted by nux
(Post 21528143)
Cheapest I can find for the return trip assuming a 1 week stopover:
£1457 with AY flying: EDI-LHR-HEL-HKG-MEL return with stopover in HKG £1548 with BA flying: EDI-LHR-HKG-MEL return with stopover in HKG If you book ex-London there are some additional options for around the same price. All found using the ITA Matrix multi-city tool. There are some Qantas options but with DXB-SIN on Emirates metal (QF code), not sure if that would qualify, I assume it wouldn't. Depending on the fare rules, a stopover may be added at additional cost subject to availability. However best to book it as you want upfront. ITA Matrix will handle this if you use the multi-city tool. Thoughts? |
Originally Posted by savitar
(Post 21529093)
Thanks, I tried the ITA matrix tool but could not take that an transfer it over to BA.com. I tried the same dates, start and end airports but it comes up with options on the Matrix that do not appear on the BA.com site...And the ones that do some up are significantly (£500+) more expensive....
Thoughts? If the option is via HKG with a CX or QF code flight (rather than a BA codeshare) it won't show up on BA.com. Call and specify the exact dates and flight numbers and it should price within a few £'s. I have just recently booked something similar with BA, CX and QF coded flights. |
Have you looked at Qantas
QF codeshares with EK on services so can cut journey connections down by doing GLA-DXB-SYD/MEL or GLA-DXB-SIN-MEL/SYD It is from GLA rather than EDI but the 2 are not very far apart and can save on connections If booked on the QF flight numbers will earn miles etc to AA and also with a QF flight number can undertake the Platinum challenge Putting 28 dec in for departure from GLA and a cpl of nights in Singapore, ITA is pricing at GBP1433 for a fare outbound in M return in L which is 50% mile earning and 100% of miles earned for EQPS GLA-DXB-SIN-SYD-DXB-GLA is 22288 miles , so easily meets the 10k EQP requirements For other passenger not needing a challenge, the M/S fare came GBP80 cheaper at GBP1353 , so the fares average out at GBP1393 |
Originally Posted by Dave Noble
(Post 21530996)
Have you looked at Qantas
QF codeshares with EK on services so can cut journey connections down by doing GLA-DXB-SYD/MEL or GLA-DXB-SIN-MEL/SYD It is from GLA rather than EDI but the 2 are not very far apart and can save on connections If booked on the QF flight numbers will earn miles etc to AA and also with a QF flight number can undertake the Platinum challenge Putting 28 dec in for departure from GLA and a cpl of nights in Singapore, ITA is pricing at GBP1433 for a fare outbound in M return in L which is 50% mile earning and 100% of miles earned for EQPS GLA-DXB-SIN-SYD-DXB-GLA is 22288 miles , so easily meets the 10k EQP requirements For other passenger not needing a challenge, the M/S fare came GBP80 cheaper at GBP1353 , so the fares average out at GBP1393 I have found a BA flight EDI->-LHR->HKG then HKG->MEL and return MEL->EDI for about £1,250 so that is great. Now I just need to find out if my situation will allow HKG over SIN (as I said its a bit complicated). As someone mentioned, one of the flights is a QF coded flight so I can't book directly with BA.com so once I sort out the HGK Vs SIN situation I will look to see what I can book. Strangely enough, this flight is CHEAPER than a one way on BA.....go figure.... |
Originally Posted by savitar
(Post 21536933)
Strangely enough, this flight is CHEAPER than a one way on BA.....go figure....
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£1213
return w/tax Go to site EDIMEL11:357:5533h 20m2Eco MELEDI15:259:5029h 25m2Eco Operated by Qantas Airways and Cathay Pacific Hide Details Select from: crystaltravel.co.uk: £1213 lastminute.com: £1226 Opodo: £1226 Depart - Mon 06 Jan 2014 - (Edinburgh) This flight leaves on Monday and arrives on Wednesday British Airways Flight: 1445 Departs: EDI 11:35 Arrives: LHR 13:00 Economy Aircraft: 320 British Airways Flight: 25 Departs: LHR 18:35 Arrives: HKG 14:10 Economy Aircraft: 388 British Airways Operated by Qantas Airways Flight: 7410 Departs: HKG 19:30 Arrives: MEL 07:55 Economy Aircraft: 333 |
£1477
including tax Go to site EDISIN10:3515:0520h 30m1Eco SINMEL19:556:307h 35m0Eco MELEDI12:008:0031h 00m2Eco Hide Details Select from: ebookers.com: £1477 Flight 1: Depart - Mon 06 Jan 2014 - (Edinburgh) British Airways Flight: 1441 Departs: EDI 10:35 Arrives: LHR 12:00 Economy Aircraft: Boeing 767 British Airways Flight: 11 Departs: LHR 18:30 Arrives: SIN 15:05 Economy Aircraft: Boeing 747 Flight 2: Depart - Thu 09 Jan 2014 - (Singapore) British Airways Flight: 7402 Departs: SIN 19:55 Arrives: MEL 06:30 Economy Aircraft: Airbus A333 Flight 3: Depart - Thu 06 Mar 2014 - (Melbourne) British Airways Flight: 7442 Departs: MEL 12:00 Arrives: SYD 13:25 Economy Aircraft: Boeing 767 British Airways Flight: 16 Departs: SYD 16:25 Arrives: LHR 05:20 Economy Aircraft: Boeing 777 British Airways Flight: 1432 Departs: LHR 06:35 Arrives: EDI 08:00 Economy Aircraft: Airbus A321 |
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