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Sri Lankan (UL) join date?
Does anyone know an approximate date when UL is scheduled to join OW?
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It usually takes 12-18 months after the joining announce. UL was announced in June so at least June 2013, but it's more likely to join late 2013 or early 2014. They have to integrate their systems and receive the approval of the sponsor airline (CX in this case). Consider also QR's full integration may have a priority in the plans of oneworld.
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For comparison, Malaysian was announced on 6 June 2011...
It is still not a full member - scheduled for 1 Feb 2013 (20 months), albeit earning rates are yet to be published |
Qatar may enter before Sri Lankan cause they have nearly done everything
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Originally Posted by Kachjc
(Post 20015106)
Qatar may enter before Sri Lankan cause they have nearly done everything
I'm not polemical, just asking for traveling reasons :) |
Originally Posted by Kachjc
(Post 20015106)
Qatar may enter before Sri Lankan cause they have nearly done everything
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Originally Posted by moa999
(Post 20013708)
For comparison, Malaysian was announced on 6 June 2011...
It is still not a full member - scheduled for 1 Feb 2013 (20 months), albeit earning rates are yet to be published |
Who reported that?
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Originally Posted by c2h
(Post 20044081)
To be fair, it was reported that MH was ready back in Nov 2012 but delayed their entry until the peak holiday season ends thus Feb 1. So 18 months exactly.
http://www.oneworld.com/news-informa...objectID=52929 |
Originally Posted by c2h
(Post 20044081)
To be fair, it was reported that MH was ready back in Nov 2012 but delayed their entry until the peak holiday season ends thus Feb 1. So 18 months exactly.
1 Feb 2014 could well be its potential date |
I suspect that QR's join date will be mid-2014 !
Why is it that new potential Oneworld members take ages to integrate into the system whereas *A and ST new members seem to come online very quickly? |
I wouldn't only say it takes one worlds new members ages to come online it seems it takes most members around the same time. Star Alliance had Air India joining for 3 years before revoking their membership. Garuda is taking 3 years to join sky team so its not just oneworld and 12-18 month joining process seems to be normal.
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Sri Lankan may join not so later due to its "size": it's a small carrier of a small nation, integration could be faster than others (see MH).
I guess Qatar wants to be fully integrated at the time new Doha airport opens: my two cents are on that date. |
Originally Posted by Guy Betsy
(Post 20049817)
I suspect that QR's join date will be mid-2014 !
Why is it that new potential Oneworld members take ages to integrate into the system whereas *A and ST new members seem to come online very quickly? |
Originally Posted by c2h
(Post 20044081)
To be fair, it was reported that MH was ready back in Nov 2012 but delayed their entry until the peak holiday season ends thus Feb 1. So 18 months exactly.
MH used to aspire to SQ and CX, but they are quite third tier, falling below TG service standards. |
The above is pure speculation about what "administrative reasons" means. It could mean anything.
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Originally Posted by Austinrunner
(Post 20070840)
The above is pure speculation about what "administrative reasons" means. It could mean anything.
http://www.malaysianwings.net/forum/...16183&p=314815 |
On MH YouTube channel their posting videos of their joining process, featuring MH's CEO, who by the way has my same backpack :), and other management's people.
http://m.youtube.com/user/mastravel |
Originally Posted by Austinrunner
(Post 20070840)
The above is pure speculation about what "administrative reasons" means. It could mean anything.
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Originally Posted by Dan72
(Post 20081404)
But if they were ready to join, why wouldn't they? Joining an alliance is essentially an administrative process, to say that they are ready, but are delaying for administrative reasons, is nonsensical. And to quote the busy Christmas period, as a reason, when it happens at the same time each year, and at the time they previously announced they were joining, highlights some of the poor management that is often seen at MH.
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Originally Posted by Himeno
(Post 20084166)
You are seeing things that don't exist.
Their reason for delaying their joining date does not stand up to scrutiny, but sure if you don't want to look or are absent reasonable judgement, I guess you won't see anything. |
Originally Posted by Dan72
(Post 20090078)
Nope. I flown them too many times and seen enough evidence of poor management.
Their reason for delaying their joining date does not stand up to scrutiny, but sure if you don't want to look or are absent reasonable judgement, I guess you won't see anything. |
Originally Posted by Himeno
(Post 20090706)
The reason for not joining yet is quite simple. They require a number of member airline CEO's and Oneworld management to be available and in the same place to sign off on everything. Those people were not available at the same time during December/Jan.
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Originally Posted by Austinrunner
(Post 20090865)
Who said that? Sounds like an overly broad inference from a report about a December effective date.
From the company newsletter Recently on 26 September 2012, representatives from Qantas (QF) and oneworld management company (oMC) completed an intensive ‘Go/ No-Go’ review of MH’s readiness to officially join the oneworld alliance later in the year (MH is currently still a oneworld member-elect). Following the review, I am pleased to inform that MH has passed the oneworld Go/No Go assessment. In short, MH joining oneworld is a Go! At the end of the examination, QF and oMC concluded that December 2012 is an achievable target for MH’s entry. oneworld CEOs’ availability is now being sought to confirm an entry date sometime in the week commencing 10 December 2012. |
What does that have to do with 1 February 2013? Seems like you're making an untoward inference here.
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It will not just be MH systems that will need to be "turned on" for them to join. All members would have to do test/integration work as well and most companies in the Western world have change freezes during the December/January period, and we know it is a peak travel period so there is no way I would want to muck around with booking/reservation/frequent flyer etc systems in this period.
1 Febraury seems to be the agreed date even if all members were ready to go live with MH membership as the risk is too high. |
I don't see the MH joining is as relevent to this tread as it is with the MH thread in Oneworld Forum. How does MH Joining and earnings affect UL joining we will not know the UL Earning regardless till they join the alliance sometime this year
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well according to wiki Qatar is due AUG 2013-I am excited for that!!!
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Originally Posted by Kachjc
(Post 20105444)
well according to wiki Qatar is due AUG 2013-I am excited for that!!!
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I Flew Qatar
Originally Posted by Kachjc
(Post 20015106)
Qatar may enter before Sri Lankan cause they have nearly done everything
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Sri Lankan?
what benefit does this airline bring??
apart from flights to India ( and they are not that big in terms of capacity to India) they really do not add much to the alliance HK/SIN/BKK-served by cathay KL-served by malaysia and the do not really fly to any other place Same with Qatar- not many new cities but unlike Sri Lankan it adds huge value and more options but Oneworld has heaps of gaps in terms of cities they cover-wonder who will be next |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUXbG58Cxzc
also why do they keep calling Oneworld the world's largest?????- it makes them look Bad you can call it the highest quality but not largest |
Sri Lankan?
Maybe, but their service is excellent (at least in J) and it's boom time in SL. Delighted I can start earning Asia Miles when this all kicks off. Their HKG-CMB-LHR fares in J are attractive and a couple of days on a beach near Galle is even more so.
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Sri Lankan?
I second that j service is great and that Sri Lanka is really taking off as a destination. Gotta give them credits. Although indeed doesn't fit in with the OW crowd...
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Originally Posted by Kachjc
(Post 20164293)
and the do not really fly to any other place
BKK-HKG BKK-PEK BKK-PVG BKK-CAN MOW-DXB etc |
Originally Posted by Kachjc
(Post 20164293)
what benefit does this airline bring??
apart from flights to India ( and they are not that big in terms of capacity to India) they really do not add much to the alliance HK/SIN/BKK-served by cathay KL-served by malaysia and the do not really fly to any other place Same with Qatar- not many new cities but unlike Sri Lankan it adds huge value and more options but Oneworld has heaps of gaps in terms of cities they cover-wonder who will be next http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onewo...-oneworld.html |
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