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pjbillez Dec 14, 2012 11:29 am

TAM rejoining OW
 
Local press saying that an announce may be imminent.

iridge Dec 14, 2012 12:21 pm

I've been reading that TAM will be joining at the end of March, 2013....

rurouni212 Dec 14, 2012 1:27 pm

Perhaps I'm being pedantic, but how can TAM rejoin oneworld if they were never a part of oneworld to begin with.

ajnaro Dec 14, 2012 5:41 pm


Originally Posted by rurouni212 (Post 19857449)
Perhaps I'm being pedantic, but how can TAM rejoin oneworld if they were never a part of oneworld to begin with.

TAM was an AAdvantage partner for many years, but never a member of oneworld. As far as I know. no Brazilian airline has even been in oneworld, although VARIG was one of the early members of Star Alliance. GOL, which bought the remnants of VARIG and has planes with the VARIG logo on the outside, was an AAdvantage partner until recently. It is now aligned with DELTA.

imagineertobe Dec 15, 2012 5:54 am


Originally Posted by rurouni212 (Post 19857449)
Perhaps I'm being pedantic, but how can TAM rejoin oneworld if they were never a part of oneworld to begin with.

I suspect the OP is a native user of a Romance language. In French, for example, we use the verb "rejoindre" to say something like "TAM will join oneworld" (TAM va rejoindre l'alliance oneworld).

rurouni212 Dec 15, 2012 3:42 pm


Originally Posted by imagineertobe (Post 19860923)
I suspect the OP is a native user of a Romance language. In French, for example, we use the verb "rejoindre" to say something like "TAM will join oneworld" (TAM va rejoindre l'alliance oneworld).

Ah, I understand, I apologize then if I came off a bit harsh.

imagineertobe Dec 15, 2012 4:15 pm


Originally Posted by rurouni212 (Post 19863542)
Ah, I understand, I apologize then if I came off a bit harsh.

I didn't hear it that way - in fact, my first reading made me ask the same question you did. A learning point for all.

ernestnywang Dec 15, 2012 9:06 pm


Originally Posted by imagineertobe (Post 19860923)
I suspect the OP is a native user of a Romance language. In French, for example, we use the verb "rejoindre" to say something like "TAM will join oneworld" (TAM va rejoindre l'alliance oneworld).

That was my first impression, too. OP's name ("billez") sounds very French to me. Of course, only the OP can confirm that.

pjbillez Dec 16, 2012 4:36 pm

Gentlemen, ladies,
I made a mistake. My apologies. I was actually going to write: "Tam will be joining Oneworld soon" and mistook its early partnership with AA for Oneworld membership and hence the wrong title. It does appear in any case that an announcement will be forthcoming soon however it is unclear what the timing for actually joining may be. WSJ also reporting that AA may be seeking a BA type alliance with LAN.

Himeno Dec 16, 2012 7:03 pm


Originally Posted by pjbillez (Post 19868982)
Gentlemen, ladies,
I made a mistake. My apologies. I was actually going to write: "Tam will be joining Oneworld soon" and mistook its early partnership with AA for Oneworld membership and hence the wrong title. It does appear in any case that an announcement will be forthcoming soon however it is unclear what the timing for actually joining may be.

I caught the end of the oneworld website being down for "updates" a couple of days ago (after this thread was posted), but didn't notice anything new when it came back up... maybe setting something up to activate at a set time?

WSJ also reporting that AA may be seeking a BA type alliance with LAN.
I'm not sure they'd get that. How much non oneworld competition is there on North-South America travel? It seems that AA/LA controls a lot more of the North-South America market then the oneworld North Atlantic traffic.

TheBOSman Dec 16, 2012 8:09 pm


Originally Posted by Himeno (Post 19869612)
I'm not sure they'd get that. How much non oneworld competition is there on North-South America travel? It seems that AA/LA controls a lot more of the North-South America market then the oneworld North Atlantic traffic.

I agree likewise. AA is definitely the strongest airline into South America that isn't based in SA. Likewise, I'd think IB (even with the recent MAD-MVD cut) is likely the strongest airline from Europe to SA. That was why I personally was thinking there could be truth to LA/JJ possibly trying to get into *A, where they might be able to get more traffic to come onto their metal. However, the AV/TA move to *A would have lessened any potential for that (as well as CM becoming much more integrated, despite being all narrowbodies, PTY seems like a very convenient place for connecting from NA to SA), and ignoring the court ruling that LA/JJ could not join the same alliance as AV/TA. Good to add JJ, will be a big help (even though their award inventory is stingy) for getting to/from Brazil.

serfty Dec 16, 2012 8:13 pm

There is this WSJ article from Thursday:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...365716034.html

jbalmuth Dec 16, 2012 9:45 pm


Originally Posted by serfty (Post 19870006)
There is this WSJ article from Thursday:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...365716034.html

The linked article is behind a pay-wall. Despite subscribing to the daily print paper, I can't see the online content.

Does FT's TOS permit someone to post the article's content?

mrkymark Dec 16, 2012 10:41 pm

Seemed like just yesterday that they joined Star Alliance doesn't it?

1010101 Dec 16, 2012 10:52 pm


Originally Posted by jbalmuth (Post 19870444)
The linked article is behind a pay-wall. Despite subscribing to the daily print paper, I can't see the online content.

Does FT's TOS permit someone to post the article's content?

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...365716034.html

If not, go to Google, search 'tam airlines' under the news tab and its the fourth one down. Opened fine for me.


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