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New possible Codeshare
AFAIK, QF ends codesharing with BA and partners with EK. But, it is possible for CX and BA to codeshare for HKG-MEL/BNE/PER/CNS/ADL (Except SYD, as BA has its own fleet stopping SIN) routes (Operated by CX)?
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Not all BA-coded flights operated by QF will go. Codeshares within an alliance are a normal thing, and this will , in principle, not be affected by the EK partnership. But the number of codeshares will be reduced because the QF/BA partnership was pretty deep and codeshares will be realigned to match what is now a "normal" partnership within an alliance. (At least this is all we can say for the moment.)
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Originally Posted by cityflyer369
(Post 19764926)
Not all BA-coded flights operated by QF will go. Codeshares within an alliance are a normal thing, and this will , in principle, not be affected by the EK partnership. But the number of codeshares will be reduced because the QF/BA partnership was pretty deep and codeshares will be realigned to match what is now a "normal" partnership within an alliance. (At least this is all we can say for the moment.)
By April, you could get a AU-UK flight with the same routing as today with QF codes without even flying on a QF aircraft. (EK metal MEL-SIN, BA metal SIN-LHR) |
But, will QF stay in Oneworld?
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Originally Posted by derek2010
(Post 19765494)
But, will QF stay in Oneworld?
This has been discussed extensively. QF management have told reporters: QF will not leave oneworld. The dicision to codeshare with EK is a strategic choice but does not evolve with alliance move. Also I would like to ask you whether you have been paid 50p to post this comment (I personally found the PR machine in the evil team are working on this to make media influence on both AB and QF in order to destroy confident of public on oneworld)? |
Oneworld is still the best fit for QANTAS the other 2 alliances are closely tied to Virgin Australia
Besides QANTAS has a healthy relationship with almost all Oneworld airlines but Cathay(Qatar can be added along with cathay once they join) If AA-US merge and TAM joins oneworld, Oneworld basically will have dominance over the net American market QANTAS staying in Oneworld just makes sense The only airlines that gives benefit to oneworld and gains very little is Cathay- no idea why they are even in an alliance. |
Originally Posted by Kachjc
(Post 19776359)
The only airlines that gives benefit to oneworld and gains very little is Cathay- no idea why they are even in an alliance.
HKG <--> China There is much better/often CX service Oz<-->HKG than QF. CX does cooperate with QF a little bit. exHKG there are joint fares HKG-SIN-PER. I do notice they are NOT sold exPER. Fred |
Originally Posted by chongcao
(Post 19765914)
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Also I would like to ask you whether you have been paid 50p to post this comment... |
Originally Posted by wandering_fred
(Post 19776527)
The massive number of AA code shares.
HKG <--> China There is much better/often CX service Oz<-->HKG than QF. CX does cooperate with QF a little bit. exHKG there are joint fares HKG-SIN-PER. I do notice they are NOT sold exPER. Fred ALL its other codeshares/relationships are loose and small |
When you consider the size of the US market, it's obvious the codeshare with AA would be the biggest one. That goes with the other oneworld carries too that have a sizeable codeshare relation with AA; BA, QF, AY, LA, JL, etc.
I don't see RJ cooperating with other ow carriers besides AA or S7 for that matter. |
Originally Posted by derek2010
(Post 19759369)
AFAIK, QF ends codesharing with BA and partners with EK. But, it is possible for CX and BA to codeshare for HKG-MEL/BNE/PER/CNS/ADL (Except SYD, as BA has its own fleet stopping SIN) routes (Operated by CX)?
Originally Posted by AirlineRoute.net
British Airways from 31MAR13 is reducing codeshare operation with QANTAS, which sees elimination of selected codeshare service on Domestic Australia and Trans-Tasman Routes. Revised Codeshare routes as follows:
British Airways operated by QANTAS, Cancelled from 31MAR13: Brisbane – Auckland Brisbane – Cairns Melbourne – Adelaide Melbourne – Auckland Melbourne – Brisbane Melbourne – Canberra Melbourne – Hobart Melbourne – Wellington Singapore – Frankfurt Singapore – London Heathrow Sydney – Armidale Sydney – Hong Kong Sydney – Port Macquarie Sydney – Wagga Wagga British Airways operated by QANTAS, Codeshare Routes remains in effect on/after 31MAR13: Hong Kong – Brisbane Hong Kong – Melbourne Hong Kong – Perth Singapore – Adelaide Singapore – Brisbane Singapore – Melbourne Singapore – Perth Singapore – Sydney Sydney – Adelaide Sydney – Albury Sydney – Armidale Sydney – Auckland Sydney – Bangkok Subarnabhumi Sydney – Brisbane Sydney – Cairns Sydney – Christchurch Sydney – Coffs Harbour Sydney – Hobart Sydney – Melbourne Sydney – Perth Sydney – Queenstown Sydney – Wellington |
but i think BA should do codeshare on CX flights too, in addition to QF flights for higher frequency:
QF29/30: 1 daily QF67/68: 3 weekly QF97/98: 4 weekly while CX's same route has a lot higher frequency than QF: HKG-MEL: 3 daily HKG-PER: 10 weekly HKG-BNE: 11 weekly |
but i think BA should do codeshare on CX flights too, in addition to QF flights for higher frequency, also for the Y+ passengers to avoid being downgraded:
existing QF HKG-Australia flights (No Y+) QF29/30: 1 daily QF67/68: 3 weekly QF97/98: 4 weekly while CX's same route has a lot higher frequency than QF: CX HKG-Australia flights (with Y+) HKG-SYD: 4 daily HKG-MEL: 3 daily HKG-PER: 10 weekly HKG-BNE: 11 weekly |
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