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glennaa11 Nov 17, 2012 2:22 pm

AA refuses to check bag through
 
What's the point of an alliance? I will say that I have primarily been a *A flyer. Currently on an AA F award DCA-JFK-HKG-TPE. The first leg is on AA and then the other two on CX. When I just checked in the bag tag only came out for JFK and no bp for the CX flights either. I asked him to check all the way to TPE and he said the system wouldn't let him. Since I have to overnight at JFK that I means I have to drag my giant bag around the airport to the hotel shuttle both ways. Flight out on CX is tomorrow AM at 9.

I've never encountered a problem checking a bag all the way on *A. Is this an AA thing or a OW thing? Doesn't encourage me to use them more in the future that is for sure.

emcampbe Nov 17, 2012 2:49 pm

AA refuses to check bag through
 
It's probably neither - but an overnight thing. Usually, you can't check bags through if you have an overnight layover. Have you tried this with UA and an overnight layover. I don't think UA/*A would treat it differently with an overnight layover.

cas_de Nov 17, 2012 2:58 pm

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cas_de Nov 17, 2012 3:02 pm

AA refuses to check bag through
 
This might be rather country than alliance specific. I managed to check bags through despite having overnight layovers, some even >24hrs at BKK (LX to TG), SIN ( LH to SQ) and ZRH (LH to LX / WK)...

mcgahat Nov 17, 2012 3:16 pm


Originally Posted by cas_de (Post 19701995)
This might be rather country than alliance specific. I managed to check bags through despite having overnight layovers, some even >24hrs at BKK (LX to TG), SIN ( LH to SQ) and ZRH (LH to LX / WK)...

That is not the norm in my experience.

Dave Noble Nov 17, 2012 3:16 pm

With an overnight stop in New York I am not surprised that you could not check it through especially with it being a domestic flight to New York

The number of airports that allow such checking through is , in my experience, the minority.

There are exceptions where bags can be held for a whole day such as Singapore, Dubai and Hong Kong but these seem to be exceptions rather than norm

I don't think that this is an OW alliance issue, more a NY issue

If you had been flying on a Star Alliance carrier to new York domestically, with a flight the next day onwards, I think you would have had the same issue

FlyFasterFlyFarther Nov 17, 2012 3:20 pm

This has nothing to do with an alliance and everything to do with the overnight connection. And for what it's worth, at JFK, there is no way in the world you want to leave your bags overnight. At least if you want them to make it back to you.

Often1 Nov 17, 2012 3:50 pm

Nothing to do with carrier or alliance. It violates the rules because the connection at JFK is too long. Frankly, there are airports where there's no particular reason not to do an overnight interline, but JFK isn't one of them. I wouldn't take AA up if they offered.

tkelvin69 Nov 17, 2012 4:59 pm


Originally Posted by glennaa11 (Post 19701831)
What's the point of an alliance? I will say that I have primarily been a *A flyer. Currently on an AA F award DCA-JFK-HKG-TPE. The first leg is on AA and then the other two on CX. When I just checked in the bag tag only came out for JFK and no bp for the CX flights either. I asked him to check all the way to TPE and he said the system wouldn't let him. Since I have to overnight at JFK that I means I have to drag my giant bag around the airport to the hotel shuttle both ways. Flight out on CX is tomorrow AM at 9.

I've never encountered a problem checking a bag all the way on *A. Is this an AA thing or a OW thing? Doesn't encourage me to use them more in the future that is for sure.

They did you a favor by not allowing your bag to overnight in JFK. You'd be lucky to see it again.

I've had the same situation in many airports around the U.S. You just have to make plans to overnight with your bags.

Himeno Nov 18, 2012 6:07 am

I've had overnight connections in both SEA (MCO-DFW-SEA-JFK-CDG) and LAX (DTW-ORD-LAX-IAH) before on AA. In both cases when I checked in, they offered to check through to my final destination, then only through to the overnight point when they learned that I was staying overnight. I got all the boarding passes though.

3Cforme Nov 18, 2012 8:08 am

Some airlines - Delta comes to mind - are explicit (in the C of C) about the acceptable duration of an 'overnight' layover with checked bags. Less than 12 hours between scheduled arrival and connecting departure and they'll keep the bag; more than 12 hours calls for claiming and rechecking next day at the connecting point.

moa999 Nov 18, 2012 4:52 pm

Very few airports have dedicated room to store bags on long connections, or indeed overnight. And then you have the security issue as well.

thomdis Nov 18, 2012 6:54 pm

I tend to the think the consensus is that the reason you weren't able to check your luggage through was due to the NYC connection time. When you asked the check-in agent, what was the response?

Guy Betsy Nov 19, 2012 1:53 pm

Airports in the USA/Canada do not allow overnight baggage connection even if you say that you will hang out in the terminal during that time. It has to be less than 6 hours I think.

itsfred Nov 22, 2012 4:53 am

I had the same experience connecting from AA to BA at T5 Heathrow. Overnight connections require pickup and recheck.

Guy Betsy Nov 24, 2012 1:22 am


Originally Posted by itsfred (Post 19728542)
I had the same experience connecting from AA to BA at T5 Heathrow. Overnight connections require pickup and recheck.

Not necessarily the case all the time... it depends on your ticket and alliance rules.

I had a SQ-SK overnight connection at LHR which my bags were checked straight through and 'kept' till SK flight the next day. I was on one ticket. Yet on seperate tickets, this was not permitted with similar routing before.

henry999 Nov 24, 2012 2:19 am


Originally Posted by Guy Betsy
Not necessarily the case all the time... it depends on your ticket and alliance rules.

I had a SQ-SK overnight connection at LHR which my bags were checked straight through and 'kept' till SK flight the next day. I was on one ticket. Yet on seperate tickets, this was not permitted with similar routing before.

Some years ago, when SQ were flying AMS-ORD, I once had ORD-AMS (SQ) connecting to AMS-ARN-TMP (SK) on a separate ticket, with something like 22 hours in Amsterdam. Nevertheless, at ORD I was able to check my bag all the way through.

(Of course, in practice it didn't actually work. When I got off my last flight at our little Tampere airport, they were waiting for me in the baggage hall with news that my suitcase was in Singapore. Fortunately, I got it a day later.)

cheers,

Henry

Steve M Nov 25, 2012 11:32 pm

AA's rule for thru checking bags on an overnight connection is that the connection must be less than 12 hours. If you have 12 hours or more for a connection, then bags must be reclaimed and then re-checked the next day (4 hours or less prior to departure).

hillrider Nov 29, 2012 10:27 pm


Originally Posted by Steve M (Post 19745344)
AA's rule for thru checking bags on an overnight connection is that the connection must be less than 12 hours. If you have 12 hours or more for a connection, then bags must be reclaimed and then re-checked the next day

Thanks for the clarification

Originally Posted by Steve M (Post 19745344)
(4 hours or less prior to departure).

IIRC there's an exclusion for elites allowing for check-in at any time during the day...but forget (a) what minimum level it applies and (b) whether it applies to all oneworld elites or just AA's own.

GUWonder Nov 29, 2012 10:52 pm


Originally Posted by Guy Betsy (Post 19736302)
Not necessarily the case all the time... it depends on your ticket and alliance rules.

I had a SQ-SK overnight connection at LHR which my bags were checked straight through and 'kept' till SK flight the next day. I was on one ticket. Yet on seperate tickets, this was not permitted with similar routing before.

I have had lots of baggage checked in for my interline trips with an overnight sub-12 hour connection at LHR where I did not have to claim the bags at LHR. It has ordinarily done me well.

*A Flyer Nov 30, 2012 12:13 am


Originally Posted by mcgahat (Post 19702063)
That is not the norm in my experience.

Outside of the US it is pretty normal. I've checked through overnight at SYD, BKK, SIN and ZRH.


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