CX contemplating leaving OW?!?!?!?
 

What?!?!?

"The cause of Cathay Pacific’s displeasure is said to be determined efforts by the HNA Group to advance the candidacy of Hainan Airlines, and no doubt, the interest of the group’s other associated carriers Hong Kong Airlines and Hong Kong Express, all of which have been mentioned in passing as having some relevance to the Qantas Group interest in basing a Jetstar franchise in Hong Kong, and undoubtedly flying there with its Asia based quality single aisle medium range A320 venture, as yet unnamed, which will feature sleeper seats!"

http://blogs.crikey.com.au/planetalk...orld/#comments

I wouldn't panic just yet, there are always rumours of some sort floating around, personally I don't see CX moving unless the Chinese government decide that they want CA to buy out Swire ( and I don't expect that any time soon).

I have to admit though, that as a *A fan I would be quite happy to do a swap and take CX off your hands and add exciting Hong Kong as a *A hub and let you have the over-rated SQ together within it's dull squeaky clean home SIN ( if ever a three letter code was misapplied to a destination surely it is this one)

The author of that article in crikey.com.au does not have much credibilty with many people. :rolleyes:
Do not believe all what is written
The article has a link to this thread.

Come on. A blog rumor? It is even less accurate than I Have Talked To Someone High Inside Organisation type talks.

If it were true, it would be a bigger blow to OW than the potential loss of JL. OW needs to step up and solidify CX's membership instead of waiting for a CX crisis to rear its head.

Cathay reportedly ready to ditch Oneworld!
 

According to crikey.com Cathay Pacific is ready to ditch oneworld for star alliance.


That would be a big move from a big player, according to the article CX is not happy with QF's moves in asia.

Any chance of this becoming reality? Or just rumour mongering from crikey.com ?



http://blogs.crikey.com.au/planetalk...itch-oneworld/

Merging this with the existing thread.

Gardyloo
Oneworld moderator

indeed. with Jetstar not being a full member and and hainan not close to being a strong airline in the region, OW will be as broken as it can be in the E/SE asian region.

With no one knowing which alliance LATAM will choose, CX being slowly owned by the Chinese govt., and two future (AB & IT) OW members in financial stress, I'm getting very tired of the constant crisis in OW.

ok, first we had one thread in CX fora posted by a people whose dislike of CX is well know, based solely on a sloppy article in vernacular press that turned our to be nothing but hot air, if only the same poster bothered to read the proper relevant information, as he normally do with any fart coming from JAL, now we are discussing a blog entry whose background is based in speculation that a certain southern chinese entity want at all costs joining OW.
Frankly speaking we are again discussing without knowing any real data here, so I will take this for what it is: a load of bollocks.

As for your points above, my take based on available data:
-LATAM: there is no reason why the combo LAN-TAM would not join OW. I'd like to see (and so far haven't) any published data about traffic, passengers, proposed routes, etc. that shows what advantage they would have joining * instead;
-CX is not gonna to be owned by some chinese government crony, and is staying fully with OW, as per Swire statements;
-if Hainan wanna desperately join an alliance i'm sure both * and ST have already noticed and make enticing offers, without them making much noises about OW;
- in *, SK, TAP, TG are in deep red, VARIG was booted out before they went bankrupt, and the US members have been in and out of creditor protections for years. ST has its fair share also of financial distress, even AF is now in difficulty. Airline sector is not passing a good moment right now, if else OW is the less exposed financially than the other two;

it is enough to forget this post and go on on better issues?

As I can't cross post, please enjoy my comment:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/catha...l#post17043028

OK, so it was clearly bollocks:

“There is no truth to this. Cathay Pacific is a founding member of oneworld and we are committed to the development and growth of this alliance”

http://blogs.crikey.com.au/planetalk...ld-commitment/

Nevertheless:

- OW needs a mainland Chinese carrier;
- the most significant unaligned mainland Chinese carrier is Hainan;
- Hainan with Hong Kong Express competes directly on CX's home turf

Irresistable force, meet immovable object.

no one among OW members seemed/seems to care whether they need or not a chinese partner. Personally, after working for most of the last decade in China am quite skeptical about any outstanding advantage of having a partner on the mainland, given the still uneven quality of the industry here and the continuous bias towards the homegrown champions;

that does not make them automatically the best choice. Same could have been said about MU, when speculation was rife they were yo join OW;

on a slew of secondary destinations, that probably by itself are tied by some interests of their mainland owners. Let's see how they fare however with their announced service to London, although I am not holding my breath regarding the competition they may pose to CX

could be said for any effort expended by western interests trying to exploit the almost magical 1.3bn chinese "consumers" (another fine sack of bollocks here that I am tired to heard about)

At the present time, CX would say that, wouldn't it?

It's often said that CX doesn't get on with either BA or QF - so often and in so many places that there must be something in the rumour.

But I would be desperately disappointed if CX were to leave OW just as it was about to provide a reason (PE) for me to start flying CX again.

Or, so often and in so many places that they don't bother wasting their time denying it.