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aki19 May 17, 2011 6:18 pm

DONE3.4.5
 
I want to know how many miles to being able to learn highest with this ticket.
The condition is possible routing in the rule.The place of departure is the Middle East.

jerry a. laska May 17, 2011 6:29 pm

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onewo...aximum+mileage

aki19 May 17, 2011 6:48 pm

Yes!I'm sorry in the insufficient explanation.
Do you know it?

aki19 May 17, 2011 8:05 pm

im sorry.The place of departure is the Middle East this time.

serfty May 17, 2011 11:06 pm

Try reading this:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onewo...cket-faqs.html

allset2travel May 18, 2011 6:07 pm

Good question.
I suppose most if not all FTers would like to know.
In addition to up-posts' links, there are a few threads on xDONEx out of AMM. Don't have the links off-hand. Search tool will produce some good results, I hope.
The hard way, but a great learning process, is to stitch together your own itinerary (or based on someone else's itin found around here in OW forum) and find out for sure. OW has great tools for that. Go to http://www.oneworld.com/

Estimated miles can be calculated by http://milecalc.com/

aki19 May 18, 2011 9:08 pm

I survived thanks to your advice. However, I was able to want to know newly again."DONE of the lowest fare"
Where do you know it?Which country is the lowest fare?

pandaperth May 18, 2011 11:21 pm


Originally Posted by aki19 (Post 16411928)
I was able to want to know newly again."DONE of the lowest fare"
Where do you know it?Which country is the lowest fare?

It is no longer so easy to check the fares from various countries - now that the link has been removed from the Oneworld web site Explorer page

But I believe that The Sudan is the cheapest for a DONE4 ticket (base prices 14,700 SDG approx= 5,500 USD)
and I expect The Sudan would also be cheapest for DONE3,5 and 6 as well

aki19 May 19, 2011 11:15 pm

I planned. However, it is too difficult for me. What kind of route is a longest distance from Sudan?

og May 19, 2011 11:43 pm


Originally Posted by aki19 (Post 16418326)
I planned. However, it is too difficult for me. What kind of route is a longest distance from Sudan?

Look at the One World list of carriers (eg AA, BA, CX, QF, LA etc). Think of where they go, then look at Great Circle Mapper to graphically map the itinerary (you need to know the 3 letter airport codes). GCM will also tell you mileages. Use the examples on the OneWorld web site for xONEx routes then modify those to suit what you think works for you.

aki19 May 20, 2011 8:19 am

Krt-Lon-lax-jfk-eze-tyo-del-tyo-fra-mad-amm-krt
How about this?Please teach me if I should change it. I have to go to New York, Buenos Aires or Scl, and Tokyo.I only have to be able to go to those cities. Therefore, the route and the city can be changed.
Thinking about routing is very happy. However, it is difficult. Because only this airline is in going to Sudan.

pandaperth May 20, 2011 10:03 pm


Originally Posted by aki19 (Post 16419794)
Krt-Lon-lax-jfk-eze-tyo-del-tyo-fra-mad-amm-krt
How about this?Please teach me if I should change it. I have to go to New York, Buenos Aires or Scl, and Tokyo.I only have to be able to go to those cities. Therefore, the route and the city can be changed.
Thinking about routing is very happy. However, it is difficult. Because only this airline is in going to Sudan.

Your itinerary is almost complete - it has two problems which are easily fixed
I also have a few suggestions and comments to make
  1. There is no Oneworld flight KRT-LON. BA used to fly this some years ago, but nowadays the only Oneworld flight out of KRT is RJ's flight to AMM. So that needs to be added to the beginning of your itinerary.
    This will cause you to have five flight segments in your continent of origin (Europe) which is not allowed - the maximum allowed is four. So you must drop one segment.
  2. There is no direct flight between EZE and TYO. However you are allowed to fly via Nth America provided the stop there is less than 24 hours. So you could fly from EZE to JFK, DFW or LAX and then from there fly on to TYO
So, your re-worked itinerary might look something like this:
Krt-AMM-Lhr-lax-jfk-eze-DFW-nrt-del-tyo-fra-amm-krt
(MAD has been dropped to comply with the max four flight segments in continent of origin)
Suggestions/Comments:
  1. You are allowed no more than two stopovers in your continent of origin - so you will have to choose which of the four stops will be transits (less than 24 hrs)
  2. If you stopover in London then when you fly out of there you will be paying the UK's air passenger duty - which if flying to the USA is GBP120. You can avoid that by transiting London or by avoiding London completely
  3. You can visit both EZE and SCL if you wish (LA flies between the two)
  4. Your transit of Nth America can be the first visit or the second visit - so you could transit between Europe and Sth America and then have your Nth American stopovers between Sth America and Asia
    (OR you could just fly Europe --> Sth America --> Nth America)
  5. You are not using all 16 segments that the ticket allows. You could add extra segments in Nth America, Sth America or Asia
  6. RJ flies from AMM non-stop to Nth America (to JFK, ORD, YUL and DTW) so you could save a European segment by taking one of those flights

So, here's an itinerary that takes all the above into account:

aki19 May 21, 2011 1:16 am

Krt-AMM-Lhr-lax-jfk-eze-DFW-nrt-del-tyo-fra-amm-krt
i want to add flight north america.Where is recommended?


krt-amm-mad-lax-SCL-LIM-eze-lax-jfk-nrt-del-nrt-SIN-nrt-fra-amm-krt
i dont want to use IB.i will change mad-dfw.

What kind of route is a longest distance from Sudan?"DONE4 and DONE5"

pandaperth May 21, 2011 3:42 am


Originally Posted by aki19 (Post 16424286)
Krt-AMM-Lhr-lax-jfk-eze-DFW-nrt-del-tyo-fra-amm-krt
i want to add flight north america.Where is recommended?

Depends what YOU want
- some would want ANC, others would want Carribean islands such as BGI or AUA, while yet others would want more cities in US or maybe Canada

What kind of route is a longest distance from Sudan?"DONE4 and DONE5"
I expect that a DONE5 itinerary could be made longer than a DONE4 itinerary - merely because by adding an extra continent you get two more inter-continetal segments and they are usually longer than intra-continental segments.

aki19 May 21, 2011 5:13 am

I want to know DONE5.The condition is from Sudan.

dunk May 21, 2011 1:28 pm

Are you familiar with www.gcmap.com ? Great for visualising routes and comparing options.

Krt-AMM-Lhr-lax-jfk-eze-DFW-nrt-del-tyo-fra-amm-krt = 44520 flown miles

aki19 May 21, 2011 6:38 pm

Thank you. I knew. However, it has not understood whether this route is correct.

pandaperth May 21, 2011 7:23 pm


Originally Posted by aki19 (Post 16427239)
Thank you. I knew. However, it has not understood whether this route is correct.

The Mileage Monkey tool will tell you if your proposed route complies with the Oneworld Explorer rules. Type your route into its Oneworld Explorer Validator box.

For a DONE5 itinerary, you will have to decide which of the six continents to leave out. Since you want to visit JFK, EZE or SCL and TYO and you are starting from Europe - that means leaving out either Africa or the South West Pacific.
If you are wanting to maximise miles - I expect it would be better to leave out Africa. Then you can make use of the rule exceptions that allow two visits to Nth America and Asia with a routing such as EZE-JFK-NRT-SYD (which of course takes many more miles than flying EZE-SYD non-stop:D)

aki19 May 21, 2011 8:30 pm

Thank you for good information. It was very good. How about this route?
Krt-amm-NYC-lax-eze-NYC-tyo-del-tyo-sin-tyo-syd-hkg-Lon-mow-amm-krt

pandaperth May 22, 2011 1:17 am


Originally Posted by aki19 (Post 16427524)
Thank you for good information. It was very good. How about this route?
Krt-amm-NYC-lax-eze-NYC-tyo-del-tyo-sin-tyo-syd-hkg-Lon-mow-amm-krt

Yes - that route is valid

There are a few things you need to be aware of - I think you now know them already:
  • You are allowed at most two stopovers in your continent of origin - so of the stops you have - AMM, LON, MOW, AMM again - you have to decide which will be transits and which stopovers
  • Your second visit to NYC - after EZE and before TYO - must be a transit
  • Your visit to HKG must be a transit

You are using all 16 allowed segments (^), but you have not fitted in SCL which you said you would like in addition to EZE. If you don't want to go to HKG, then you can fly SYD-LON direct and so save a segment which you can use to visit SCL. Here's a routing for that
Krt-amm-JFK-lax-eze-SCL-JFK-NRT-del-NRT-sin-NRT-syd-LHR-DME-amm-krt

So - the next thing for you to think about is which frequent flyer program to accrue all the miles to. But that is a whole new topic of conversation:D

Wasabi Tofu May 23, 2011 12:16 am


Originally Posted by aki19 (Post 16427524)
Thank you for good information. It was very good. How about this route?
Krt-amm-NYC-lax-eze-NYC-tyo-del-tyo-sin-tyo-syd-hkg-Lon-mow-amm-krt

krt-amm-jfk-sju-lax-eze-jfk-nrt-del-nrt-cgk-nrt-syd-lhr-dxb-amm-krt
a bit longer.
krt-amm-jfk-sju-lax-eze-jfk-hkg-del-nrt-cgk-nrt-syd-lhr-dxb-amm-krt
almost same mileage.

MiamiPrep Jun 29, 2011 3:13 am

DONE03 ex-AMM
 
One of my current DONE03 ex-AMM:

AMM-BKK-NRT-CGK-NRT-HNL-ORD-MIA-LAX-DFW-PSP-DFW-LHR-DME-MAD-LHR-AMM.

Only reason I didn't do ANC is that I just did on a DONE04.

Gardyloo Jun 29, 2011 7:47 am


Originally Posted by Wasabi Tofu (Post 16432584)
krt-amm-jfk-sju-lax-eze-jfk-nrt-del-nrt-cgk-nrt-syd-lhr-dxb-amm-krt
a bit longer.
krt-amm-jfk-sju-lax-eze-jfk-hkg-del-nrt-cgk-nrt-syd-lhr-dxb-amm-krt
almost same mileage.

Where/when are you seeing LAX-EZE? It was around briefly about 3 years ago, but I haven't seen it since. Also note LAX-SJU seems short for this world; not in the current AA schedule past August.

KVS Jul 1, 2011 3:51 pm


Originally Posted by Gardyloo (Post 16644620)
Where/when are you seeing LAX-EZE? It was around briefly about 3 years ago, but I haven't seen it since. Also note LAX-SJU seems short for this world; not in the current AA schedule past August.

It's a 4x/week service with a stop in LIM:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.2.0.R2/Diamond - Amadeus: Timetable/NL-BCDF]
Code:

LAX  Los Angeles Intl CA US [KLAX]
EZE  Buenos Aires Ministro Pistarini BA AR [SAEZ]
MON  29 Aug 2011 - 05 Sep 2011

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Frequency | Dur'n | Dep T | Arr T | Effect | Ending | Exceptions
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ----------------------------------------------------------------
LA/##      2605    LAX  21:10    EZE  15:15 +1  763  1  123---7    14:05      B      -  03 Jul  02 Oct

AA/LA      7743    LAX  21:10    LIM  07:45 +1  763  0  123---7    14:05      B      -  03 Jul  02 Oct
 -> LA/##  2605    LIM  08:45 +1  EZE  15:15 +1  763  0                          -      -
LA        601    LAX  13:25    LIM  23:59    763  0  1234567    14:20      B      -  07 May  07 Oct
 -> LA/##  2427    LIM  01:15 +1  EZE  07:45 +1  763  0                          -      -
AA/LA      7734    LAX  13:25    LIM  23:59    763  0  1234567    14:20      B      -  12 May  07 Oct
 -> LA/##  2427    LIM  01:15 +1  EZE  07:45 +1  763  0                          -      -
AA        2448    LAX  13:55    DFW  18:55    M80  0  1234567    14:20      4      -  28 Aug  09 Sep
 -> AA    997    DFW  19:35    EZE  08:15 +1  763  0                          D      -
AA        1520    LAX  11:15    MIA  19:10    777  0  1234567    15:00      4      -  23 Aug  30 Oct
 -> AA    909    MIA  20:30    EZE  06:15 +1  777  0                          -      -
QF/AA      3023    LAX  14:05    MIA  22:00    738  0  1234567    15:00      4      -  23 Aug  05 Nov
 -> AA    943    MIA  23:20    EZE  09:05 +1  777  0                          -      -
AA        252    LAX  14:05    MIA  22:00    738  0  1234567    15:00      4      -  23 Aug  05 Nov
 -> AA    943    MIA  23:20    EZE  09:05 +1  777  0                          -      -
WS/AA      5058    LAX  13:05    DFW  18:10    757  0  1234567    15:10      -      -  23 Aug  29 Oct
 -> 4M/AA  6342    DFW  19:35    EZE  08:15 +1  763  0                          D      -
AA        2446    LAX  13:05    DFW  18:10    757  0  1234567    15:10      4      -  23 Aug  30 Sep
 -> AA    997    DFW  19:35    EZE  08:15 +1  763  0                          D      -
AA        1520    LAX  11:15    MIA  19:10    777  0  1234567    15:45      4      -  23 Aug  26 Sep
 -> 4M    4521    MIA  21:00    EZE  07:00 +1  763  0                          -      -
4M/AA      6302    LAX  11:15    MIA  19:10    777  0  1234567    15:45      4      -  23 Aug  26 Sep
 -> 4M    4521    MIA  21:00    EZE  07:00 +1  763  0                          -      -
LA        601    LAX  13:25    SCL  05:35 +1  763  1  1---5--    16:00      B      I  04 Jul  07 Oct
 -> LA/##  1447    SCL  06:20 +1  EZE  09:25 +1  320  0                          I      -


pandaperth Jul 2, 2011 3:25 am

I think I'm correct in saying that the '##' means it's operated by another carrier, but for some reason KVS cannot display it.

According to itasoftware the other carrier is LAN Peru. Therefore the flight would be allowed on an xONEx itinerary.


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 16658709)
It's a 4x/week service with a stop in LIM:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.2.0.R2/Diamond - Amadeus: Timetable/NL-BCDF]
Code:

LAX  Los Angeles Intl CA US [KLAX]
EZE  Buenos Aires Ministro Pistarini BA AR [SAEZ]
MON  29 Aug 2011 - 05 Sep 2011

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Frequency | Dur'n | Dep T | Arr T | Effect | Ending | Exceptions
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ----------------------------------------------------------------
LA/##      2605    LAX  21:10    EZE  15:15 +1  763  1  123---7    14:05      B      -  03 Jul  02 Oct



KVS Jul 2, 2011 10:12 am


Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 16660445)
I think I'm correct in saying that the '##' means it's operated by another carrier, but for some reason KVS cannot display it.

According to itasoftware the other carrier is LAN Peru. Therefore the flight would be allowed on an xONEx itinerary.

[##] indicates that it is a pseudo-codeshare:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.2.0.R2/Diamond - Amadeus Operational Info: LA 2605/05 Sep 2011]
Code:

LAN AIRLINES - LA 2605

[Planned Flight Info]
LAX-LIM        21:10/Mon - 07:45/Tue  08:35
LIM-EZE        08:45/Tue - 15:15/Tue  04:30

[Flight Notes]
LAX-LIM        OPERATED BY AND MARKETED BY LANPERU
LIM-EZE        OPERATED BY AND MARKETED BY LANPERU
                MEMBER OF ONEWORLD
LAX-            DEPARTS TERMINAL B
LAX-LIM        1/ MOVIE
LAX-LIM        9/ NON-SMOKING
LIM-EZE        1/ MOVIE
LIM-EZE        9/ NON-SMOKING
LAX-LIM        SECURED FLIGHT
LAX-LIM        ET/ ELECTRONIC TKT CANDIDATE
LIM-EZE        ET/ ELECTRONIC TKT CANDIDATE


pandaperth Jul 2, 2011 11:12 pm

And the definition of a psuedo-codeshare is?:D


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 16661463)
[##] indicates that it is a pseudo-codeshare


KVS Jul 3, 2011 12:00 pm


Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 16663792)
And the definition of a psuedo-codeshare is?:D

Pseudo-codeshares include subsidiaries, wet/dry leases, and all other arrangements that are not actual codeshares with distinct flight numbers.

pandaperth Jul 3, 2011 5:43 pm


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 16665671)
Pseudo-codeshares include subsidiaries, wet/dry leases, and all other arrangements that are not actual codeshares with distinct flight numbers.

Thank you KVS - I continue to learn

aki19 Jan 20, 2012 12:51 am

DONE 5
 
i want to know low prices top ten cities soon. I'm going RTW.do you know everyone?
could you tell me that! many thanks:D

danger Jan 20, 2012 2:28 am

See here and here.

aki19 Jan 20, 2012 4:33 am

thank you.
can i start from SEZ?cuz i can't find airport.

danger Jan 20, 2012 5:12 am


Originally Posted by aki19 (Post 17850378)
thank you.
can i start from SEZ?cuz i can't find airport.

Negative. No oneworld carrier services SEZ.


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