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Hi Everyone

it has been a long time since I have been back on these boards I hope all is well and that there is still lots of happy flying going around .

I have decided to do another D trip , this time from CPT , and the mileage monkey said it was okay CPT-PER-AKL-MEL-NRT-JFK-SCL-RIO-JFK-POS-MIA-BGI-JFK-LAX-LHR-MOW-LHR-CPT, Mileage is over 60.000 , if anyone could tweak this to maximise miles it would be much appreciated .

kind regards

ELO

There are no Oneworld flights PER-AKL or MEL-NRT.

Sadly that's not a valid route for a couple of reasons - first, there's now a 16-segment limit; this shows 17. Second, there's no CPT-PER route; on a Oneworld Explorer you'd have to use CPT-JNB-SYD-PER, and you'd still have a problem with the rules regarding transcontinental flights in Australia (SYD-PER would be it; to get to MEL or AKL you'd have to add a stop somewhere like ADL) - so this would make your segment count even more problematic.

I'd recommend using the online booking tool at Oneworld to put the route together - it will give you a final price as well as checking your route's validity.

Thank you for your advise

kind regards ELO

Thanks Gardyloo

I have done a bit of tweeking myself taking your tips on board I have come up with a valid route , however I would still like to maximise miles 52167 is not a lot? this is for CPT-JNB-SYD-PER-ADL,MEL-AKL-SYD-NRT-JFK, INTERCONTINENTAL TO GIG -JFK-BGI-JFK-LAX-LHR-JNB

if you could add to this to somehow maximise the miles it would be very much appreciated

kind regards ELO

Mileage monkey has not been updated for a long time with routes or rules, so cannot be used with confidence. Last MM update was May 15 2009

Yes, I think you can increase your mileage a little. There are far more expert tweakers than I (and I don't mean that in the pejorative meth-addled sense :D) here in the OW forum. It would help to know how set you are on particular destinations, and whether you'd be up to doing a couple side trips.

jnb-syd-per-mel-akl-hkg-akl-scl-ccs-scl-gru-jfk-bgi-jfk-lax-lhr-jnb

is 59876. But, you'd have to take the train from CPT-JNB (which I'd love to do someday), and do the 400 mile trip to ADL by ground or extra ticket, and finally, it's about 220 GRU-GIG. Caveats include the fact that I did not proof this on the oneworld site, and I hear the akl-scl is a bear to book.

Also, this is a *one6. If you leave out Asia, you'd save about 1300 USD on a D fare, 2000 on an A fare. And you'd have two segments to spend in NA or Europe.

I'm assuming, perhaps erroneously, that you aren't considering L? Nothing wrong with L but you're interested in miles. Many carriers give 0 miles on that fare, and only two, I think, give full credit. Wish there were a way to do two DONE3s and hit all six continents, but I don't think it's possible. To really maximize miles per dollar spent, I think the consensus is that *ONE3s are best. From SA, where you MUST have at least 4 continents, two DONE4s cost $4152 more than a DONE6. So 16 extra segments will cost about $260 each. This may be totally irrelevant to you--I don't know your time constraints, for example, but food for thought.

There's nothing wrong with SCL-GIG-JFK instead of SCL-GRU-JFK, but both GIG-JFK and GRU-JFK can also be 'bears' to book on rtw codes.

IF you’re thinking of a xONE6
AND your prime driver is to maximize miles
THEN you need to ensure you make use of the rule exceptions that allow you to visit a continent a second time (see rule 4(e))

Using the exceptions, you can have a total of 9 inter-continental flights.
And you can use just 8 of your allowed 16 segments doing it.
(Used to possible to use only 7 segments – but IRRC the NRT-GRU flight on JL is no more)

Here’s an 8-segment itinerary that consists solely of inter-continental flights
CPT-LHR-SYD-HKG-JFK-EZE-JFK-LHR-DAR
According to MM this is 48,007 miles
The LHR-SYD segment has two inter-continental flights in it
Under the rules – one of the visits to JFK has to be a transit, and the second visit to LHR also has to be a transit

Then look at the best intra-continental flights to gain maximum miles from the 8 remaining segments. There’s a thread on this in this forum.

Edited to add:
A bit of playing around gives this 16-segment itinerary:
cpt-lhr-mct-lhr-syd-hkg-khi-hkg-cmb-hkg-jfk-eze-ccs-scl-lax-lhr-dar
for 74K+ miles

AKL-HKG-AKL-SCL
Which rule permits 2nd intercontinental departure/arrival of SWP continent ?

Good catch--none, that I know of. Would have to go HKG-JFK (transit)-SCL. If legal and actually bookable increases miles to 61360.

Clearly, pandaperth's suggestion below, which never crossed my mind, is far superior. One could make EXP, and probably top tier in any Oneworld airline with just this trip if booked in D or A. Not a true mileage runner's cup of tea at $8665 plus tax for 112,033.5 EQP. Or, pre-tax, just under $0.08 per EQP. But, wow, what a vacation. Just trying to avoid khi I switched to syd-nrt-del-hkg for 75058 miles. I would love to see Pakistan, but right now might be pushing past the comfort zone a bit too far for me unless maybe part of a volunteer relief effort.

A few modification add some extra miles:)

cpt-lhr-mct-lhr-syd-nrt-del-nrt-cgk-nrt-jfk-eze-ccs-scl-lax-lhr-dar

Of course, some consideration needed for first class service.
For syd-hkg, 1st class is provided by QF, but no service for syd-nrt.

If you want to avoid turnaround at KHI,DEL.
two of nrt-sin-nrt, nrt-cgk-nrt, nrt-dps-nrt are good alternatives.

Also no F service LHR/DAR.

Hi Skipaway

Thank you for your advise I should have been a bit more clearer with my RTW as it should be miles aswell as destinations , and knowing how precise people are in the forums that was a mistake on my part which I apologise , ideally I want to visit Australia , India , Asia , and the America,s but starting in South Africa as this seems to be the cheapest place to start a Done4 , 5, There is just so much info its difficult to get my head round it . I know that I have to have 1 flight number to complete a segment so I cannot do Per-akl as it would be two segments unless they have changed the rules , also I am not sure about going back to England from S A as I would then have to fly atlantic first? which I do not want to do .

thanks ELO

Thanks for your help and other FT,s

ELO

I thought the OP wanted a Donex so does it matter if there is no first,

Also no first nrt-del or nrt-cgk, first would pretty much be limited to intercon's,

best value is to by a business fare and if you have some lonely miles on Qantas or BA use them to upgrade those segments with miles

LOL, ELO, I totally get what you mean. I'm in the second half of my own RTW, and still have problems getting my mind around it. You just have to play around with it a lot. I'm going to give you an example I tried on the oneworld planner and the great circle mapper. I haven't figured out how to make it appear as a link like some of the posters above have done. It comes out to a little over 51K. You really have to start in jhb to make it work, and you have a DONE5--no Europe. IF you can get the flights. You'd have 4 very short segments, so you have to decide if rambling round Australia worth sacrificing some accrual.

jnb-syd-per-asp-syd-akl-hkg-del-hkg-jfk-yvr-dfw-scl-ipc-scl-gig-jnb

Anyway, one thing I learned the hard way: book all your flights once you decide on a route. I didn't do that, and when JL quit flying NRT-DPS, I had to re-ticket with a change fee. Once you book, you're covered and they will fix you up. You can always change the dates later. If you're looking a year out, though, you are pretty much stuck, but book as soon as you can. I hope you'll continue to post as you work on this. As you have seen, there are some real geniuses here when it comes to wringing miles out of a trip.

How are you going to get from GIG to JNB?

Well, there ya go. The oneworld planner let me route that (couldn't see if JNB was green or not since it was covered up as the starting point). It made a nice line direct gig-jnb, but you are correct in your skepticism; when I went back to choose flights, it sure is not direct. So, ELO is going to have to spring for a 6 continent fare.

:confused:Jalways (JO) flies NRT-DPS, you could have flown them?

Plug the itinerary into great circle mapper and display it
then copy its url
and insert it as a link in your post (using the 'insert link' button)
jnb-syd-per-asp-syd-akl-hkg-del-hkg-jfk-yvr-dfw-scl-ipc-scl-gig-jnb
easy peasy:D

Your itinerary has to take you either Eastbound or Westbound around the world
Starting in SA and heading North to Europe means that you can then head either East or West from Europe

If you head West (to the Americas)
Then you can come back to Africa either from SWP (SYD-JNB), or from Asia (HKG-JNB) or from Europe (LHR-xxx, where xxx is an airport in one of the allowed countries listed in rule 4(e) such as DAR; you will have to transit London - no stopover)

If you head East from Europe, then you have to return to Africa from LHR, using the rule 4(e) exception - again only to one of the listed countries and only transitting London
This is because there are no One World direct flights from the Americas to Africa

BUT, if it's maximising miles you're after then:
HKG-LHR-DAR is significantly more miles than HKG-JNB
SYD-LHR-DAR is significantly more miles than SYD-JNB
and say
LAX-LHR-DAR is just a lot of miles:)

Just been looking at DONE6 fares on the OW site

ex Sth Africa - ZAR64,000 which at today's exchange rate is ~USD8,910
ex Tanzanaia - USD9,100

So ex-Tanzania is not significantly more than ex-Sth Africa
and then the itinerary could start DAR-xLHR-LAX (say) - that's 10,000 miles straight away (and if the DAR-LHR leg is on the AA codeshare - you can complete the platinum challenge in those two flights)

Masochists could take it further and start DAR-xLHR-xLAX-SCL:eek:

IF the fares are still good then
IF I still want to requalify for EXP all on leisure travel for another year
IF I can get the time off (it'll be unpaid :()
IF lifetime platinum is still attainable
THEN I'm going to do one of the DONE6's you presented in Jan/Feb 2012

That gives you about 15 months to figure out a 200K route :D

I like a challenge, but that might be beyond me:(