LONE5 via tokyo adds extra segment
 

I'm trying to route from SYD-Tokyo-HNL. SYD-NRT and HND-HNL - is there any way to avoid this being considered 3 segments due to the transfer from NRT-HND?

Unfortunately not. You would need to fly NRT-HNL or spend the extra segment.

Do any OW carriers fly NRT-HNL?

It seems you created an unexisted problem by misunderstanding the flight routings.

Currently, the only international destinations from Tokyo Haneda (HND) are HKG, SHA and GMP, hence there are no HND-HNL flights at the moment.

From 31Oct10, the new runway and new international terminal in Haneda begin to operate, HND-HNL along with many new international routes would also begin on the same date.

Back to your latest question, there are 3 daily flights on the NRT<->HNL route operated by JAL subsidiary JALways, JO71/72, JO73/74, JO75/76.

Ah, I'm looking at flights in March/April next year so they've already moved the flights to go from HND. Bother

Would it be possible to do SYD-HNL-......-NRT-SYD instead? Basically do SYD-HNL on QF first and move onto North America, and leave NRT towards the end of your trip?

Unfortunately not, we need to be in Japan near the start of the trip for my fianceé's (will be my wife by then, the trip is our honeymoon) brothers graduation. Its part of a larger routing:

AKL-SYD-NRT // HND-HNL-DFW-SEA // JFK-CUN-MEX-LIM-IPC-SCL-GIG-LHR-HKG-AKL

If I can avoid the land segment in Tokyo, it would give me another leg to add somewhere. I also see that no OW carriers fly HNL-SEA or somewhere near there - seems like they all fly to LAX or DFW then connecting flight on to SEA :(

In that case, how about routing via a city that will fly into HND instead?

Sorry for the press release being in Japanese, but JAL will also be flying to/from the following cities out of HND starting 31Oct2010: BKK, SIN, TPE in addition to HNL, SFO, and CDG. My preference would be SYD-SIN-HND just so as to get the experience of riding the big A380 between SYD-SIN. :D

So you could do AKL-SYD-(BKK, SIN, TPE)-HND-HNL....-AKL; you get an extra segment squeezed in at SE Asia, and avoiding wasting the extra land segment NRT//HND

You can also avoid the SEA // JFK land segment by opting to use the alternate Canadian airport YVR instead. ..HNL-DFW-YVR-JFK-CUN..

SEA can be easily reached rather easily by rental car or via Amtrak Cascades rail out of Vancouver. CX flies YVR-JFK so you'll save another "land" segment there as well.

Regard to your SYD-XXX-HND suggestion, just want to point out that TPE is incorrect, JAL will begin HND<->TSA (Taipei Songshan Airport), not TPE (Taipei Taoyuan Airport).

On the AKL-SYD segment, OP may opt on travelling on LA to lower fuel surcharges, but LA801 departs AKL at extreme early hour 05:30 or 05:50.

OP can travel from SYD via another city to reach HND by following route:
SYD-HKG-HND (CX/QF + CX/JL)
SYD-SIN-HND (BA/QF + JL)
SYD-BKK-HND (BA/QF + JL)

Alternatively, skipping the AKL-SYD segment by flying directly out of AKL, AKL-HKG-HND (CX + CX)

Are you sure? JAL is beginning one daily flight on HND-HNL, but they are also keeping NRT-HNL. How can one daily HND flight replaces the current 3 daily flights out of NRT.

Hmmm. When I used the booking tool it only showed HND-HNL. And its only showing a single flight each day in the OneWorld booking tool.

The overland portion from YVR or SEA (depending on which route we go with) to JFK is for overland travel around US & Canada - thinking about hiring a rental car / buying a cheap car and doing a road trip for a couple of months.

There are still 3 flights a day by JL/JO NRT-HNL in Feb/Mar/Apr next year.

[KVS Availability Tool 5.5.0/Diamond - Amadeus: Timetable/NL-BCDF]

Thanks for your help folks. Still not sure why the OW tool doesn't show the NRT-HNL flights that DownUnderFlyer posted about above.

We're now deciding on 2 different options, either include:
* Hawaii AKL-HKG-HND-HNL-DFW-SEA or
* Ayers Rock, Australia AKL-SYD-AYQ-SYD-NRT-YVR

Then we will go overland from SEA or YVR around USA/Canada before continuing from JFK-CUN-MEX-LIM-IPC-SCL-GIG-LHR-DEM-HKG (<24hr transit to meet the rules)-AKL

If it was you, which option would you go with? Hawaii or Ayers Rock?

Assuming all of your other destinations are a must (meaning you can't do both Uluru and Hawaii) I would go for Hawaii. In the setting of your trip Uluru would feel to be very much out of context and I think Hawaii would be a better fit. Leave the Red Centre for a dedicated Australia trip

Since this is your honeymoon, I would strongly advise to ask for all wedding gifts to be in the form of cash and to then upgrade the LONE5 to a DONE5. Or when starting at a cheaper place than AKL, a DONE4.