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ardboe May 26, 2010 5:50 am

OT: Possible jet blue in OW
 
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...lue-walsh.html

Came across this on flight global.

Earthman May 26, 2010 6:21 am

Aren't they all economy though? Not what oneworld really wants.

To be honest, we had a better flight from cun-mia with them last year than with AA the other way round.
No meals on the AA flight in business class-just a pack of peanuts and a coke :rolleyes:

Jet blue on the other hand had live TV :)

dddc May 26, 2010 6:39 am

Maybe it's because Wille Walsh wants to turn BA into the same model. You know, cut back on food and other non essential services, get a cheaper labour force to work for him. Oh, wait.... :D

millionmiler May 26, 2010 6:41 am


Originally Posted by Earthman (Post 14025014)
Aren't they all economy though? Not what oneworld really wants.

To be honest, we had a better flight from cun-mia with them last year than with AA the other way round.
No meals on the AA flight in business class-just a pack of peanuts and a coke :rolleyes:

Jet blue on the other hand had live TV :)

B6 is all Y of course but its really good Y. Better that BA club Europe in most ways actually.

KenJohn May 26, 2010 7:14 am

B6 is better than Aer Lingus (WW's previous creation) but is all Y

TPJ May 26, 2010 7:23 am

NO WAY - we (Star Alliance folks) really DO hope they will join *A one day:D:p

And IIRC LH (Lufthansa, not long haul) owns about 10% of jetBlue shares - I don't believe they would let them join OW.

johnny5a May 26, 2010 8:16 am

Jetblue are great, I've flown with them once JFK to BOS, they got my luggage from checkin to aircraft in 20 minute before takeoff now that is what call service

BingBongBoy May 26, 2010 10:42 am

I love Jet Blue! They give us FREE flights... completely free... nada.. nyet... to pay... fabulous! :D ^

Mutu May 26, 2010 11:02 am


Originally Posted by TPJ (Post 14025257)
NO WAY - we (Star Alliance folks) really DO hope they will join *A one day:D:p

An IIRC LH (Lufthansa, not long haul) owns about 10% of jetBlue shares - I don't believe they would let them join OW.

I suspect that is right.....but of course LH cannot have disproportionate influence on such business matters as it would then fall foul of "effective" control restrictions, so potentially there is nothing they could do.

Of course there could be some poison pill penalty which i think would be justifiable influence!

ardboe May 26, 2010 11:32 am


Originally Posted by BingBongBoy (Post 14026377)
I love Jet Blue! They give us FREE flights... completely free... nada.. nyet... to pay... fabulous! :D ^

Lucky you! :D

SchmeckFlyer May 26, 2010 11:55 am

JetBlue may be all economy, but they blow BA out of the water in terms of short-haul service and quality. Some might even say they are better than Club Europe; they are certainly better value.

And besides, JetBlue is a domestic/North American operation. Not as if they will be siphoning off F-pax.

OW could use some expansion anyway... it's not exactly the best connected alliance in the world. SkyTeam may be "low class" :rolleyes: but at least they get you to where you want to go.

millionmiler May 26, 2010 1:42 pm


Originally Posted by SchmeckFlyer (Post 14026814)
Some might even say they are better than Club Europe.

See post #4 above for example. Club Europe is a sad, sad product. BA is great in long haul F, has a good seat in long haul J (but not good service) and not so good otherwise.

Jetblue is the most active carrier at JFK. Their domestic US position will be important to both BA and AA after the merger.

Swanhunter May 27, 2010 11:09 pm

Over now to Oneworld for more discussion

Swanhunter
Moderator, BAEC

millsdale May 28, 2010 8:48 am

Even with all Y I do not care I would gladly welcome them into OW with open arms. Who here would rather take B6 over AE

Thunderroad May 28, 2010 12:33 pm


Originally Posted by Earthman (Post 14025014)
Aren't they all economy though? Not what oneworld really wants.

To be honest, we had a better flight from cun-mia with them last year than with AA the other way round.
No meals on the AA flight in business class-just a pack of peanuts and a coke :rolleyes:

Jet blue on the other hand had live TV :)

As someone with feet in both the OW and *A camps, I'd love to see them join either one.

Whatever other obstacles stand in the way, I wouldn't see it currently being all Y as a problem. It's already got a quasi-C option in terms of having and charging more for Y seats with 38" pitch, albeit they are still 6 across. It conceivably could stick with this. Or if it wanted/needed to offer a premium cabin to join an alliance, it could simply take the European approach of closing off the middle seat to make it more truly C (or in the domestic USA travel context, what's called F).

Come to think of it, if JetBlue were to go that latter route, and given the IFE options and better service it offers, it's C/F (domestic) product would be as good or better than any US legacy carrier.


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